# Week 1 CFB -- Which BCS Top 25 team(s) will lose? --- \<\< corrected poll \>\> **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 26, 2014, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-1-cfb-which-bcs-top-25-team-s-will-lose-corrected-poll/694093 "2014-07-26T13:13:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2014, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-1-cfb-which-bcs-top-25-team-s-will-lose-corrected-poll/694093/21 "2014-08-19T16:57:15Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > I picked WI and TA&M. Nice to see UCF ranked as we ought to be, even if it’s only because you didn’t have this year’s rankings yet. Totally forgot about the FSU-OKST game. Can I add that? ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2014, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-1-cfb-which-bcs-top-25-team-s-will-lose-corrected-poll/694093/22 "2014-08-19T17:16:08Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Totally forgot about the FSU-OKST game. Can I add that? Sure. What’s your pick to LOSE? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2014, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-1-cfb-which-bcs-top-25-team-s-will-lose-corrected-poll/694093/23 "2014-08-19T18:09:06Z")
OK State, Wisconsin and Texas A & M. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2014, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-1-cfb-which-bcs-top-25-team-s-will-lose-corrected-poll/694093/24 "2014-08-19T18:41:35Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > OK State, Wisconsin and Texas A & M. Good. I’ll fix it for you. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2014, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-1-cfb-which-bcs-top-25-team-s-will-lose-corrected-poll/694093/25 "2014-08-20T13:53:47Z")
Since I have already made an exception in the case of **Really Not All That Bright** , I feel it’s only fair to offer to “correct” the votes for **susan, jsc1953, Pai325, bump, astorian, JohnT** , because each of you has failed to include one of the teams in at least one of the games where two Top 25 Teams are playing: ```auto Texas A&M @ South Carolina (22) Florida St. vs. Oklahoma St. (19) Wisconsin vs. LSU (18) ``` The numbers in parentheses are total votes for both teams. As of this post there have been 23 voters. ============================== Also, at this point, I’d like to propose a scoring method that you may want to comment on: You pick them to LOSE and they LOSE: +2 points You pick them to LOSE and they WIN: -1 point You don’t pick them at all and they LOSE: -1 point Unless I hear otherwise, that’s how I will be scoring things. If the comments warrant such a thing, I’m willing to scratch this whole thread and start yet another where the scoring method will be made clear up front. Either that, or I will adjust the individual votes for those requesting such a thing, until next Wednesday the 27th. =============================== If we do decide to scrap this thread, I propose the replacement will be the AP Preseason Top Ten games instead of this group. In fact, I have no objection to anyone wanting to start that sort of thread, regardless of how we proceed with this one. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2014, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-1-cfb-which-bcs-top-25-team-s-will-lose-corrected-poll/694093/26 "2014-08-20T18:06:41Z")
I don’t wanna lose points because of a game that I didn’t make a call on. That doesn’t seem right. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2014, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-1-cfb-which-bcs-top-25-team-s-will-lose-corrected-poll/694093/27 "2014-08-20T18:17:45Z")
Yeah, seems like that should be zero. Otherwise you are just rewarding people for guessing. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2014, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-1-cfb-which-bcs-top-25-team-s-will-lose-corrected-poll/694093/28 "2014-08-20T18:18:27Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I don’t wanna lose points because of a game that I didn’t make a call on. That doesn’t seem right. Noted. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-1-cfb-which-bcs-top-25-team-s-will-lose-corrected-poll/694093/29 "2014-08-21T00:01:14Z")
I’m not a big fan of negative points at all. I’d prefer to just award points for correct choices…but whatever way you want to do it is fine. I see no reason to scrap it and start over. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-1-cfb-which-bcs-top-25-team-s-will-lose-corrected-poll/694093/30 "2014-08-21T00:04:11Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > I’m not a big fan of negative points at all. I’d prefer to just award points for correct choices…but whatever way you want to do it is fine. I see no reason to scrap it and start over. Good idea. I’m thinking I’ll just provide the totals and let everybody decide what ought to be right. Too much shuffling of the dishes for the vittles involved… ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-1-cfb-which-bcs-top-25-team-s-will-lose-corrected-poll/694093/31 "2014-08-21T12:29:01Z")
Here’s how things look after 25 Voters: View Poll Results: Which BCS Top 25 team(s) will lose? This poll will close on 08-27-2014 at 08:21 AM ```auto ****** ****** ****** FlaSt Aub MichSt SoCar Bama Clem UCF LSU Louvll UCLA OklaSt TA&M USC ND Wisc Vand Wash =================================================================================================== astorian 3 UCF OklaSt TA&M basset hound 4 Louvll OklaSt TA&M Wisc BobLibDem 9 FlaSt Aub Bama UCF LSU UCLA TA&M ND Vand bump 1 SoCar Doctor Who 4 Clem OklaSt TA&M Wisc doverpro 3 OklaSt TA&M Wisc Frosted Glass 4 Clem OklaSt TA&M Wisc JohnT 3 FlaSt SoCar Clem jsc1953 3 UCF Louvll TA&M LonghornDave 3 LSU OklaSt TA&M Mince 5 Clem Louvll OklaSt TA&M Wisc Nauplius 4 Clem OklaSt TA&M Wisc Oakminster 4 SoCar Clem OklaSt Wisc Pai325 2 SoCar LSU Really Not All That Bright (3) (OklaSt) TA&M Wisc Snowboarder Bo 3 OklaSt TA&M Wisc Snupzilla 4 UCF OklaSt TA&M Wisc Sterling Archer 4 Clem LSU OklaSt TA&M susan 1 MichSt Typo Negative 1 LSU USCDiver 4 Clem OklaSt TA&M Wisc Wolverine 3 OklaSt TA&M Wisc Zakalwe 3 OklaSt TA&M Wisc Zeldar 4 FlaSt Clem TA&M Wisc Zyanthia 5 OklaSt TA&M USC Wisc Wash =================================================================================================== 25 87 3 1 1 4 1 9 4 5 3 1 (17) 19 1 1 15 1 1 /87 ``` ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-1-cfb-which-bcs-top-25-team-s-will-lose-corrected-poll/694093/32 "2014-08-26T13:42:16Z")
Just a friendly reminder: POLL CLOSES in 24 hours – minus some minutes. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2014, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-1-cfb-which-bcs-top-25-team-s-will-lose-corrected-poll/694093/33 "2014-08-29T01:40:30Z")
I called SCar to lose, but I wasn’t expecting such a shellacking at home. Wowza. Anything can happen in the SEC. Down in Hotlanta, Ole Miss is struggling with Boise State–up 7-3 at the half, but they’ve been flagged for approximately eleventy-billion false starts, Bo Wallace has thrown 3 picks, and they lost a starting LB to an ejection for targeting. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2014, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-1-cfb-which-bcs-top-25-team-s-will-lose-corrected-poll/694093/34 "2014-08-29T13:32:37Z")
If you don’t make a call, 0 points. 😃 😃 😃 Glad I picked South Carolina to lose, though! 😃 😃 😃 Suck it, Spurrier! In your _house_! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2014, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-1-cfb-which-bcs-top-25-team-s-will-lose-corrected-poll/694093/35 "2014-08-31T13:02:15Z")
> [@Zeldar](#): > > Here’s how things look after 25 Voters: > > View Poll Results: Which BCS Top 25 team(s) will lose? > This poll will close on 08-27-2014 at 08:21 AM > > ```auto > > ************ ****** > FlaSt Aub MichSt SoCar Bama Clem UCF LSU Louvll UCLA OklaSt TA&M USC ND Wisc Vand Wash > =================================================================================================== > astorian 3 UCF OklaSt TA&M > basset hound 4 Louvll OklaSt TA&M Wisc > BobLibDem 9 FlaSt Aub Bama UCF LSU UCLA TA&M ND Vand > bump 1 SoCar > Doctor Who 4 Clem OklaSt TA&M Wisc > doverpro 3 OklaSt TA&M Wisc > Frosted Glass 4 Clem OklaSt TA&M Wisc > JohnT 3 FlaSt SoCar Clem > jsc1953 3 UCF Louvll TA&M > LonghornDave 3 LSU OklaSt TA&M > Mince 5 Clem Louvll OklaSt TA&M Wisc > Nauplius 4 Clem OklaSt TA&M Wisc > Oakminster 4 SoCar Clem OklaSt Wisc > Pai325 2 SoCar LSU > Really Not All That Bright (3) (OklaSt) TA&M Wisc > Snowboarder Bo 3 OklaSt TA&M Wisc > Snupzilla 4 UCF OklaSt TA&M Wisc > Sterling Archer 4 Clem LSU OklaSt TA&M > susan 1 MichSt > Typo Negative 1 LSU > USCDiver 4 Clem OklaSt TA&M Wisc > Wolverine 3 OklaSt TA&M Wisc > Zakalwe 3 OklaSt TA&M Wisc > Zeldar 4 FlaSt Clem TA&M Wisc > Zyanthia 5 OklaSt TA&M USC Wisc Wash > =================================================================================================== > 25 87 3 1 1 4 1 9 4 5 3 1 (17) 19 1 1 15 1 1 /87 > > ``` ======================== Except for the Louisville game, here are the results to help tally who did best (and worst) with the guesswork. Next week I plan to revert to the AP Top Ten games where once again we’ll be picking the Losers. Between now and then if you have a preference for scoring please say so. ======================== View Poll Results: Which BCS Top 25 team(s) will lose? This poll will close on 08-27-2014 at 08:21 AM ```auto ****** ****** ****** FlaSt Aub MichSt SoCar Bama Clem UCF LSU Louvll UCLA OklaSt TA&M USC ND Wisc Vand Wash W W W L W L L W ? W L W W W L L W ==================================================================================================== astorian 3 UCF OklaSt TA&M basset hound 4 Louvll OklaSt TA&M Wisc BobLibDem 9 FlaSt Aub Bama UCF LSU UCLA TA&M ND Vand bump 1 SoCar Doctor Who 4 Clem OklaSt TA&M Wisc doverpro 3 OklaSt TA&M Wisc Frosted Glass 4 Clem OklaSt TA&M Wisc JohnT 3 FlaSt SoCar Clem jsc1953 3 UCF Louvll TA&M LonghornDave 3 LSU OklaSt TA&M Mince 5 Clem Louvll OklaSt TA&M Wisc Nauplius 4 Clem OklaSt TA&M Wisc Oakminster 4 SoCar Clem OklaSt Wisc Pai325 2 SoCar LSU Really Not All That Bright (3) (OklaSt) TA&M Wisc Snowboarder Bo 3 OklaSt TA&M Wisc Snupzilla 4 UCF OklaSt TA&M Wisc Sterling Archer 4 Clem LSU OklaSt TA&M susan 1 MichSt Typo Negative 1 LSU USCDiver 4 Clem OklaSt TA&M Wisc Wolverine 3 OklaSt TA&M Wisc Zakalwe 3 OklaSt TA&M Wisc Zeldar 4 FlaSt Clem TA&M Wisc Zyanthia 5 OklaSt TA&M USC Wisc Wash ==================================================================================================== 25 87 3 1 1 4 1 9 4 5 3 1 (17) 19 1 1 15 1 1 /87 ``` ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2014, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-1-cfb-which-bcs-top-25-team-s-will-lose-corrected-poll/694093/36 "2014-08-31T17:42:01Z")
I went 4 for 4 this week, with a couple of nailbiters going my way in the end. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2014, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-1-cfb-which-bcs-top-25-team-s-will-lose-corrected-poll/694093/37 "2014-08-31T20:31:41Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > I went 4 for 4 this week, with a couple of nailbiters going my way in the end. 😃 Indeed! I had you winning by my tally method. Hands down! Good guessing. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2014, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-1-cfb-which-bcs-top-25-team-s-will-lose-corrected-poll/694093/38 "2014-08-31T20:38:24Z")
Question–will there be any way to score for correctly guessing that none of the top teams lose in a particular week? If we are only picking games involving the Top Ten, I think it could happen fairly often. If we continue to pick from games involving the Top 25, it is less likely… ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2014, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-1-cfb-which-bcs-top-25-team-s-will-lose-corrected-poll/694093/39 "2014-08-31T20:50:46Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Question–will there be any way to score for correctly guessing that none of the top teams lose in a particular week? If we are only picking games involving the Top Ten, I think it could happen fairly often. If we continue to pick from games involving the Top 25, it is less likely… It would seem probable that the only situation where “None of Them” would not apply would be if two Top Ten teams were playing each other. Otherwise “None of Them” would be a valid option in the poll. Before next week’s games I’d like to establish some rules that everybody can feel are fair: 1. If you pick a team to lose and they win, -1 point 2. If you don’t pick a team to lose, and they lose, -1 point 3. If you pick a team to lose, and they DO lose, +1 point 4. If two Top Ten teams ARE playing each other and you don’t pick one of them to lose, -2 points! (-1 for each team!) Please argue me out of this scoring method if you feel it’s not fair. 🙂 And if I missed a possibility, please point it out. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2014, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-1-cfb-which-bcs-top-25-team-s-will-lose-corrected-poll/694093/40 "2014-08-31T21:09:04Z")
I don’t see anything unfair about it, but I’m not a huge fan of #2. Doesn’t really matter much to me, though. I’ll be playing every week anyway, so score it however makes the most sense to you. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-1-cfb-which-bcs-top-25-team-s-will-lose-corrected-poll/694093.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-1-cfb-which-bcs-top-25-team-s-will-lose-corrected-poll/694093.md?page=3)