# Week 10 CFB -- Which AP Top Ten team(s) will lose? **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [October 27, 2013, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-10-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/672384 "2013-10-27T17:48:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2013, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-10-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/672384/1 "2013-10-27T17:48:52Z")
AP Top 25 1. Alabama (idle) 2. Oregon (idle) 3. Florida St. 4. Ohio St. 5. Baylor (idle) 6. Stanford (idle) 7. Miami (FL) 8. Auburn 9. Clemson 10. Missouri 11. LSU (idle) 12. Texas A&M 13. Oklahoma (idle) 14. South Carolina 15. Texas Tech 16. Fresno St. 17. UCLA 18. Oklahoma St. 19. UCF (idle) 20. Louisville (idle) 21. Northern Illinois 22. Wisconsin 23. Michigan 24. Michigan St. 25. Arizona St. Sun Oct 27, 2013 ```auto ======================================================== 2013 NCAA Division I-A Football Schedule - Week 10 Saturday, November 2 TBA Tennessee at (10) Missouri TBA (8) Auburn at Arkansas 12:00 PM (4) Ohio State at Purdue 3:30 PM (9) Clemson at Virginia 8:00 PM (7) Miami (FL) at (3) Florida State ======================================================== ``` Poll on the way… ETA: Please note that the poll will still be “open” after some games have begun. I will close the array before game time(s). ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2013, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-10-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/672384/2 "2013-10-27T18:38:47Z")
It’s good to see my Auburn Tigers crack the top ten for the first time in a couple of years. Nice to see you back, fellas. I wouldn’t be all that surprised if somebody knocks them off before the end of the season, but it’s not going to be the Razorbacks. War Eagle. And go 'Noles, I guess. That’s my only pick for this week. FSU 34, Miami 24. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2013, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-10-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/672384/3 "2013-10-27T18:43:58Z")
I went with Florida St to lose this week. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2013, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-10-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/672384/4 "2013-10-27T18:53:34Z")
I figure that with the drubbing Bama handed UT yesterday that they’ll be looking for blood from Mizzou. I just wish I felt better about Purdue’s and Virginia’s chances. It seems odd to me that 8 of the top 25 are resting this next weekend. Four of the Top Ten. Does it have to do with laurels or something? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Rucksinator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/898d66/32.png) [@Rucksinator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rucksinator)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2013, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-10-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/672384/5 "2013-10-27T23:35:36Z")
I was actually shocked that anybody picked anything other than Miami. Maybe I’ll be the one that’s shocked, but I can’t see any team in the top 3 (Bama, FSU and Oregon) losing to anyone outside the top 3. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-10-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/672384/6 "2013-10-31T14:58:41Z")
FWIW, the spread on the FSU-Miami game is currently 22; I don’t think FSU will cover that. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-10-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/672384/7 "2013-10-31T15:18:15Z")
I believe you’re wrong on that. This is a game where the starters will not be pulled until late in the 4th (assuming a big lead) and given the poll standings, there is some advantage to running it up for this game. Our schedule from here out is atrocious, the teams we play are a combined 12-18 (Wake Forest, Syracuse, Idaho, and UF) and only one has a winning record (Florida at 4-3 and they are likely to be at or below .500 by the time we play them). This is probably our last chance at the national stage to impress the pollsters until the ACC Championship - when it’s likely too late. I’m afraid that due to the damn preseason polls we’re going to need Oregon or Alabama to drop one to make the Big Game. Dammit! Why couldn’t the playoff have started **this** year? ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-10-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/672384/8 "2013-10-31T15:18:58Z")
> [@Babyeater Bohemoth](#): > > FWIW, the spread on the FSU-Miami game is currently 22; I don’t think FSU will cover that. Miami is facing a tough chore. They’ve been squeaking by, but now they face a really hot team with a great young QB. I’d say Las Vegas knows what it’s doing and if Miami is within three scores they will have done well. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-10-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/672384/9 "2013-10-31T15:25:12Z")
I hear ya both, but FSU didn’t cover the spread last week against NC State. And I think Miami will be playing as well as they can; this is a huge rivalry (as I’m sure you both know). Believe me, I hope we whomp 'em by like 80 points, in a shutout, while holding their team to less than 40 yards of total offense. But as a guy who sat in the stands for Wide Right 1, well… I know that hope isn’t something to rely on, not when it comes to this matchup. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-10-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/672384/10 "2013-10-31T16:38:26Z")
> [@Babyeater Bohemoth](#): > > I hear ya both, but FSU didn’t cover the spread last week against NC State. And I think Miami will be playing as well as they can; this is a huge rivalry (as I’m sure you both know). > > Believe me, I hope we whomp 'em by like 80 points, in a shutout, while holding their team to less than 40 yards of total offense. But as a guy who sat in the stands for Wide Right 1, well… I know that hope isn’t something to rely on, not when it comes to this matchup. Well, the 2nd and 3rd string defenses played the entire 2nd half and Winston only played six downs. The spread was actually covered by half-time and it was just a couple of meaningless late TDs that closed things back up (plus I believe they only missed it by 2 - was the game time spread still 34.5?). And Jimbo explained his thinking (and I agreed with it) better to be healthy for The U then cover the spread against hapless NC State. As for the fear, yeah, it’s a rivalry, but I just can’t see Miami matching up with us for 4 quarters. Our top 3 receivers are monsters and will probably all play in the NFL assuming they stay healthy. Benjamin could be the next Megatron. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-10-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/672384/11 "2013-10-31T17:39:45Z")
I’m delaying the posting of the picks array until the Halloween names are changed back. Keep 'em coming. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2013, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-10-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/672384/12 "2013-11-01T15:42:12Z")
Since my name got changed back, but at least one on this list has not changed, I’m uncertain about some new names on the list. If yours needs changing to your “pre-Halloween” name, just PM me to that effect and I’ll fix it. ```auto ======================================================== Florida St. Ohio St. Miami Auburn Clemson Missouri ======================================================== armedmonkey 1 Miami BigAppleBucky 1 Miami Disheavel 2 Florida St. Auburn Labrador Deceiver 2 Miami Clemson markdash 1 Miami Munch 3 Miami Auburn Missouri nate 1 Miami Oakminster 1 Florida St. Rucksinator 1 Miami Rudiger Simpson 1 Miami Snowboarder Bo 4 Miami Auburn Clemson Missouri Wolverine 1 Miami yellowjacketcoder 2 Miami Missouri Zakalwe 1 Miami Zeldar 2 Miami Missouri zoog 1 Miami ===================== ======================================================== 16 25 2 0 14 3 2 4 /25 ======================================================== ``` ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-10-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/672384/13 "2013-11-02T14:16:43Z")
I’ll be posting (and closing) the picks array at 11:00 Central, since Ohio State kickoff is at that time. You have until then to join the party. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-10-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/672384/14 "2013-11-02T16:00:48Z")
Post #12 has the final array. Good luck on your picks! ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-10-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/672384/15 "2013-11-02T17:59:53Z")
Since nobody selected Ohio State, and since that was the only game to have started before the poll officially closed, I have included a late vote and stripped out the Ohio State column to give this final picture: ```auto ======================================================== Florida St. Miami Auburn Clemson Missouri ============================================= armedmonkey 1 Miami BigAppleBucky 1 Miami Disheavel 2 Florida St. Auburn Labrador Deceiver 2 Miami Clemson markdash 1 Miami Munch 3 Miami Auburn Missouri nate 1 Miami Oakminster 1 Florida St. R. P. McMurphy 2 Miami Missouri Rucksinator 1 Miami Rudiger Simpson 1 Miami Snowboarder Bo 4 Miami Auburn Clemson Missouri Wolverine 1 Miami yellowjacketcoder 2 Miami Missouri Zakalwe 1 Miami Zeldar 2 Miami Missouri zoog 1 Miami ===================== ============================================= 17 27 2 15 3 2 5 /27 ======================================================== ``` ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-10-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/672384/16 "2013-11-02T21:10:53Z")
Regarding the cumulative scoring, a couple of people have contacted me asking why there are no penalties assessed for incorrect picks. I explained my reasoning, but I have decided to change it a bit starting next week. Not this week as there were too many picks already in when I made the decision about changing the rules. However, starting week 11 there will be a half point deducted for each incorrect pick. This should still encourage people to go a little risky, but take away the incentive to just pick everybody. Anyway, here’s how we are going in to week 10: End of week 9 totals. Cumulative scoring. No penalties for incorrect picks, 1pt awarded for each correct pick. 5 pts: **Munch, Oakminster, Wolverine** 4 pts: \*\*armedmonkey, Labrador Deceiver, Oredigger77, Zakalwe \*\* 3 ps: **astorian, LuckyNumber85, R.P. Murphy, Zeldar** 2 pts: **bump, death of rats, RetroVertigo, Snowboarder Bo, Sterling Archer, willia4** 1 pt: **Chargerrich, Fred Garvin, janeslogin, Jimmy Chitwood, jsc1953, markdash, Really Not All That Bright, Rex Goliath, The Universe Lashes Out, yellowjacketcoder** 0 pts: **Accidental Martyr, basset hound, Duckster, furt, Johnny Bravo, NicorGasMan, Quintas, racer72, Rucksinator, skammer, Tazmanian Devil, zamboniracer** ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2013, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-10-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/672384/17 "2013-11-03T04:41:16Z")
WOOT! Go 'Noles! ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2013, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-10-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/672384/18 "2013-11-03T04:43:51Z")
That picking Florida State to lose thing didn’t work out so well for me. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2013, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-10-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/672384/19 "2013-11-03T05:23:42Z")
```auto ======================================================== No. 4 Ohio State 56, Purdue 0 No. 8 Clemson 59, Virginia 10 No. 11 Auburn 35, Arkansas 17 No. 9 Missouri 31, Tennessee 3 No. 3 Florida State 41, No. 7 Miami (FL) 14 ======================================================== ``` ```auto Miami ======= armedmonkey 1/1 Miami BigAppleBucky 1/1 Miami markdash 1/1 Miami nate 1/1 Miami Rucksinator 1/1 Miami Rudiger Simpson 1/1 Miami Wolverine 1/1 Miami Zakalwe 1/1 Miami zoog 1/1 Miami Labrador Deceiver 1/2 Miami R. P. McMurphy 1/2 Miami yellowjacketcoder 1/2 Miami Zeldar 1/2 Miami Munch 1/3 Miami Snowboarder Bo 1/4 Miami Oakminster 0/1 Disheavel 0/2 ===================== ======= 17 15/27 15 /27 ======================================================== ``` ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2013, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-10-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/672384/20 "2013-11-03T16:24:34Z")
End of week 10 totals. Cumulative scoring. No penalties for incorrect picks, 1pt awarded for each correct pick. Note: scoring will change starting week 11. One half point will be deducted for each incorrect pick 6 pts: **Munch, Wolverine** 5 pts: **armedmonkey, Labrador Deceiver, Oakminster, Zakalwe** 4 pts: \*\*Oredigger77, R.P. Murphy, Zeldar \*\* 3 ps: **astorian, LuckyNumber85, Snowboarder Bo** 2 pts: **bump, death of rats, markdash, RetroVertigo, Sterling Archer, yellowjacketcoder, willia4** 1 pt: **BigAppleBucky, Chargerrich, Fred Garvin, janeslogin, Jimmy Chitwood, jsc1953, nate, Really Not All That Bright, Rex Goliath, Rucksinator, Rudiger Simpson, The Universe Lashes Out, zoog** 0 pts: **Accidental Martyr, basset hound, Duckster, furt, Johnny Bravo, NicorGasMan, Quintas, racer72, skammer, Tazmanian Devil, zamboniracer**