# Week 12 CFB -- Which AP Top Ten team(s) will lose? **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [November 10, 2013, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-12-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/673584 "2013-11-10T17:21:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2013, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-12-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/673584/1 "2013-11-10T17:21:24Z")
```auto AP Top 25 1. Alabama 2. Florida St. 3. Ohio St. 4. Baylor 5. Stanford 6. Oregon 7. Auburn 8. Clemson 9. Missouri (idle) 10. Texas A&M (idle) 11. South Carolina 12. Oklahoma St. 13. UCLA 14. Michigan St. 15. UCF 16. Fresno St. (idle) 17. Wisconsin 18. LSU (idle) 19. Louisville 20. Northern Illinois 21. Arizona St. 22. Oklahoma 23. Texas 24. Miami 25. Georgia Sun Nov 10, 2013 ``` ```auto ======================================================== Thursday, November 14 7:30 PM Georgia Tech at (8) Clemson Saturday, November 16 TBA (1) Alabama at Mississippi State TBA (25) Georgia at (7) Auburn 12:00 PM (3) Ohio State at Illinois 3:30 PM Syracuse at (2) Florida State 4:00 PM Utah at (6) Oregon 7:00 PM Texas Tech vs. (4) Baylor* 8:00 PM (5) Stanford at USC * - game played at a neutral location ======================================================== ``` Poll on tjhe way… ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2013, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-12-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/673584/2 "2013-11-10T17:43:42Z")
No chance to gain on Oak this week. It’s a pretty dull week in the Top 10. Oak, any chance I could get you to work your voodoo on tOSU or Baylor? 😉 You keep clearing the path for the 'Noles and I’ll gladly buy you beer. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-12-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/673584/3 "2013-11-11T15:21:27Z")
Early voting: ```auto ============================================================ Alabama Florida St. Ohio St. Baylor Stanford Oregon Auburn Clemson NONE =============================================================================== armedmonkey 1 NONE Munch 1 NONE Omar Little 1 Stanford Zakalwe 1 NONE Zeldar 1 NONE ====================== =============================================================================== 5 5 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 4 /5 ============================================================ ``` ---
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-12-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/673584/4 "2013-11-11T19:44:57Z")
Can latecomers play? I picked Stanford and Auburn. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-12-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/673584/5 "2013-11-11T19:53:12Z")
> [@DMC](#): > > Can latecomers play? > > I picked Stanford and Auburn. You’re only late if you try to vote after > [@](#): > > This poll will close on 11-14-2013 at 11:24 AM Here’s an update after 6 voters: ```auto ============================================================ Alabama Florida St. Ohio St. Baylor Stanford Oregon Auburn Clemson NONE =============================================================================== armedmonkey 1 NONE DMC 2 Stanford Auburn Munch 1 NONE Omar Little 1 Stanford Zakalwe 1 NONE Zeldar 1 NONE ====================== =============================================================================== 6 7 0 0 0 0 2 0 1 0 4 /7 ============================================================ ``` ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-12-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/673584/6 "2013-11-12T15:28:30Z")
It would appear, early on, that 2/3 of us think the weekend will be rather drab in terms of Top Ten teams getting knocked off. Even so, there do seem to be some fun games to watch. Thursday night’s for instance. One reason to close the poll early. ```auto ============================================================ Alabama Florida St. Ohio St. Baylor Stanford Oregon Auburn Clemson NONE =============================================================================== armedmonkey 1 NONE DMC 2 Stanford Auburn Munch 1 NONE Omar Little 1 Stanford Sterling Archer 1 NONE yellowjacketcoder 1 NONE Zakalwe 1 NONE Zeldar 1 NONE ====================== =============================================================================== 8 9 0 0 0 0 2 0 1 0 6 /9 ============================================================ ``` ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-12-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/673584/7 "2013-11-12T16:25:19Z")
I can see making a case for Stanford or Auburn to be upset in the thier respective games, but I think those may even be long shots. I have to go with this being a good week for the Top 10. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-12-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/673584/8 "2013-11-13T05:30:33Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > No chance to gain on Oak this week. It’s a pretty dull week in the Top 10. > > Oak, any chance I could get you to work your voodoo on tOSU or Baylor? 😉 You keep clearing the path for the 'Noles and I’ll gladly buy you beer. Hmmm…I like beer, but I’m only picking Auburn to lose this week. Why? Roll Tide. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-12-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/673584/9 "2013-11-13T13:26:59Z")
An update: ```auto ============================================================ Alabama Florida St. Ohio St. Baylor Stanford Oregon Auburn Clemson NONE =============================================================================== armedmonkey 1 NONE BobLibDem 2 Alabama Auburn Death of Rats 1 NONE DMC 2 Stanford Auburn Labrador Deceiver 1 Auburn Munch 1 NONE Nauplius 1 NONE Oakminster 1 Auburn Omar Little 1 Stanford Sterling Archer 1 NONE Wolverine 1 NONE yellowjacketcoder 1 NONE Zakalwe 1 NONE Zeldar 1 NONE ====================== =============================================================================== 14 16 1 0 0 0 2 0 4 0 9 /16 ============================================================ ``` ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-12-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/673584/10 "2013-11-13T22:04:03Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > No chance to gain on Oak this week. It’s a pretty dull week in the Top 10. > > Oak, any chance I could get you to work your voodoo on tOSU or Baylor? 😉 You keep clearing the path for the 'Noles and I’ll gladly buy you beer. Since there is no way in hell my Tigers are going to lose to the Dawgs this weekend, not only will you catch **Oak** , you will pass him by half a point. War Eagle. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-12-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/673584/11 "2013-11-14T12:35:10Z")
With right at five hours before the poll closes, here’s the situation: ```auto ============================================================ Alabama Florida St. Ohio St. Baylor Stanford Oregon Auburn Clemson NONE =============================================================================== armedmonkey 1 NONE BobLibDem 2 Alabama Auburn Death of Rats 1 NONE DMC 2 Stanford Auburn Duckster 2 Oregon Auburn Labrador Deceiver 1 Auburn Munch 1 NONE nate 1 Auburn Nauplius 1 NONE Oakminster 1 Auburn Omar Little 1 Stanford Oredigger77 1 Auburn RetroVertigo 1 Auburn Snowboarder Bo 3 Ohio St. Stanford Auburn Sterling Archer 1 NONE tonyfop 2 Stanford Clemson Wolverine 1 NONE yellowjacketcoder 1 NONE Zakalwe 1 NONE Zeldar 1 NONE ====================== =============================================================================== 20 26 1 0 1 0 4 1 9 1 9 /26 ============================================================ ``` ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-12-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/673584/12 "2013-11-14T17:38:02Z")
Here’s a simplified final array with the no-votes removed: ```auto ============================================================ Alabama Ohio St. Stanford Oregon Auburn Clemson NONE =========================================================== armedmonkey 1 NONE BobLibDem 2 Alabama Auburn Death of Rats 1 NONE DMC 2 Stanford Auburn Duckster 2 Oregon Auburn Labrador Deceiver 1 Auburn Munch 1 NONE nate 1 Auburn Nauplius 1 NONE Oakminster 1 Auburn Omar Little 1 Stanford Oredigger77 1 Auburn RetroVertigo 1 Auburn Snowboarder Bo 3 Ohio St. Stanford Auburn Sterling Archer 1 NONE tonyfop 2 Stanford Clemson Wolverine 1 NONE yellowjacketcoder 1 NONE Zakalwe 1 NONE Zeldar 1 NONE ====================== =============================================================== 20 26 1 1 4 1 9 1 9 /26 ============================================================ ``` ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-12-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/673584/13 "2013-11-14T18:51:13Z")
I’m not sold on Baylor. I say this is the week they go down. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-12-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/673584/14 "2013-11-14T20:04:22Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > I’m not sold on Baylor. I say this is the week they go down. You’re not alone in that feeling, as can be seen in [Who takes The College Football Belt away from Baylor?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=703138) My own prediction (and how I voted in that thread/poll) is for next week, but I’m starting to believe they can go unbeaten this season. We’ll see. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-12-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/673584/15 "2013-11-17T00:56:15Z")
War Damn Eagle! Wow. We had it, lost it, and then got it back in a ridiculously improbable play. Bring on Bama, because I think the football gods are smiling on Auburn. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-12-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/673584/16 "2013-11-17T01:04:05Z")
> [@armedmonkey](#): > > War Damn Eagle! Wow. We had it, lost it, and then got it back in a ridiculously improbable play. > > Bring on Bama, because I think the football gods are smiling on Auburn. Got to be! Play of the decade at least. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-12-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/673584/17 "2013-11-17T03:15:52Z")
Aye, that was pretty freaking incredible. But what’s more improbable and also incredible was Jameis Winston’s 19-for-21 passing day. How can this guy not win the Heisman? Go 'Noles! ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-12-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/673584/18 "2013-11-17T04:30:29Z")
Alabama wasn’t impressive at all against Mississippi State. ETA: I thought I’d provide [a link so everyone can see the incredibly lucky play that won Auburn the game](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ3wp4qInfg). I love the one Auburn player’s reaction on the field that is in the shot as the touchdown is scored. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-12-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/673584/19 "2013-11-17T04:40:34Z")
Here’s how it ended up: ```auto ===================================================== Stanford ========== Omar Little 1/1 Stanford DMC 1/2 Stanford tonyfop 1/2 Stanford Snowboarder Bo 1/3 Stanford armedmonkey 0/1 Death of Rats 0/1 Labrador Deceiver 0/1 Munch 0/1 nate 0/1 Nauplius 0/1 Oakminster 0/1 Oredigger77 0/1 RetroVertigo 0/1 Sterling Archer 0/1 Wolverine 0/1 yellowjacketcoder 0/1 Zakalwe 0/1 Zeldar 0/1 BobLibDem 0/2 Duckster 0/2 ====================== ============== 20 4/26 4 /26 ===================================================== ``` ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-12-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/673584/20 "2013-11-17T04:50:14Z")
Final scores on the Top Ten games: ```auto No. 8 Clemson 55, Georgia Tech 31 No. 3 Ohio State 60, Illinois 35 No. 2 Florida State 59, Syracuse 3 No. 7 Auburn 43, No. 25 Georgia 38 No. 6 Oregon 44, Utah 21 No. 1 Alabama 20, Mississippi State 7 No. 5 Baylor 63, Texas Tech 34 USC 20, No. 4 Stanford 17 ``` [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-12-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/673584.md?page=2)