# Week 13 CFB -- Which AP Top 25 team(s) will lose?
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-13-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/704799
**Category:** The Game Room
**Created:** [November 16, 2014, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-13-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/704799 "2014-11-16T20:17:15Z")
**Posts on this page:** 19
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### Author:  [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2014, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-13-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/704799/1 "2014-11-16T20:17:15Z")
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Scoring for this week’s poll is as follows:
1. Pick a team to LOSE and they LOSE – **+1 point**
2. Pick a team to LOSE and they WIN – **-1 point**
3. Fail to pick a LOSER in a game involving two Top 25 teams-- **-1 point**
(two Top 25 teams playing – one must lose)
4. Pick both teams to LOSE in a game involving two Top 25 teams-- **-1 point**
(two Top 25 teams playing – one must lose)
**@@@, ### = must pick one or the other!**
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> **[NCAAF College Football Scores & Game Results - Yahoo Sports](https://sports.yahoo.com/college-football/scoreboard/?conf=fbs_all&week=13)**
>
> Sports News, Scores, Fantasy Games
NCAAF Scores & Schedule – Top 25 FBS – Week 13
```auto
Thursday, November 20
7:00 PM EST (12) Kansas St. @ West Virginia
7:30 PM EST N. Carolina @ (25) Duke
Saturday, November 22
7:00 PM EST Samford @ (16) Auburn
7:30 PM EST (19) Missouri @ Tennessee
7:30 PM EST Vanderbilt @ (4) Mississippi St.
TBA Boston Coll. @ (1) Florida St.
12:00 PM EST Kansas @ (23) Oklahoma
TBA Rutgers @ (10) Michigan St.
TBA Indiana @ (7) Ohio St.
12:00 PM EST Charleston Sou. @ (9) Georgia
12:00 PM EST (18) Marshall @ UAB
TBA Minnesota @ (21) Nebraska
TBA (14) Wisconsin @ Iowa
1:00 PM EST Washington St. @ (13) Arizona St.
1:30 PM EST New Mexico @ (22) Colorado St.
TBA (15) Arizona @ (20) Utah @@@
TBA Colorado @ (3) Oregon
TBA (24) USC @ (11) UCLA ###
3:30 PM EST (8) Mississippi @ Arkansas
4:00 PM EST Western Carolina @ (2) Alabama
7:30 PM EST Oklahoma St. @ (6) Baylor
```
**@@@, ### = must pick one or the other!**
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> **[NCAA College Football Rankings: AP Top 25 Football Poll | AP News](https://apnews.com/hub/ap-top-25-college-football-poll)**
>
> Georgia, Michigan, TCU and Ohio State were the top four in the final Associated Press college football poll of the regular season.
The AP Top 25 Poll
```auto
1 Florida State ACC Record: 10-0
2 Alabama SEC Record: 9-1
3 Oregon Pac-12 Record: 9-1
4 Mississippi State SEC Record: 9-1
5 TCU Big 12 Record: 9-1 Week 14: Thursday, November 27 7:30 PM EST @ Texas
6 Baylor Big 12 Record: 8-1
7 Ohio State Big Ten Record: 9-1
8 Mississippi SEC Record: 8-2
9 Georgia SEC Record: 8-2
10 Michigan State Big Ten Record: 8-2
11 UCLA Pac-12 Record: 8-2 ###
12 Kansas State Big 12 Record: 7-2
13 Arizona State Pac-12 Record: 8-2
14 Wisconsin Big Ten Record: 8-2
15 Arizona Pac-12 Record: 8-2 @@@
16 Auburn SEC Record: 7-3
17 Georgia Tech ACC Record: 9-2 Week 14: Saturday, November 29 12:00 PM EST @ (15) Georgia
18 Marshall Conf USA Record: 10-0
19 Missouri SEC Record: 8-2
20 Utah Pac-12 Record: 7-3 @@@
21 Nebraska Big Ten Record: 8-2
22 Colorado State Mountain West Record: 9-1
23 Oklahoma Big 12 Record: 7-3
24 USC Pac-12 Record: 7-3 ###
25 Duke ACC Record: 8-2
```
**@@@, ### = must pick one or the other!**
Week 13
Poll released: Nov 16
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---
### Author:  [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2014, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-13-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/704799/2 "2014-11-16T23:04:48Z")
That’s funny. I was looking for the Week 12 thread so I could post the list for you again. Just got done putting it together! 🙂
---
### Author:  [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2014, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-13-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/704799/3 "2014-11-17T00:07:18Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#):
>
> That’s funny. I was looking for the Week 12 thread so I could post the list for you again. Just got done putting it together! 🙂
Thanks. I decided to do my own scrounging around for the AP rankings in the schedule. Bit of a hassle, but it didn’t break me! 🙂
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### Author:  [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2014, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-13-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/704799/4 "2014-11-19T13:06:58Z")
This poll closes on Thursday at 02:21 PM.
---
### Author:  [@yellowjacketcoder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowjacketcoder)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2014, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-13-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/704799/5 "2014-11-19T20:20:43Z")
I’m picking Duke to lose, but only because I want my Jackets to make it to the ACCCG. Hey, it _could_ happen.
Otherwise, seems like there’s not many interesting games this week.
Aside: while I’m sure I’m near the bottom of the standings, what are the point totals thus far?
---
### Author:  [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2014, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-13-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/704799/6 "2014-11-19T21:00:36Z")
> [@yellowjacketcoder](#):
>
> I’m picking Duke to lose, but only because I want my Jackets to make it to the ACCCG. Hey, it _could_ happen.
>
> Otherwise, seems like there’s not many interesting games this week.
> Aside: while I’m sure I’m near the bottom of the standings, what are the point totals thus far?
The latest posting was [this one.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17903246&postcount=17)
The apathy toward this week’s games seems to be affecting many if not most of the “regulars” in these threads. Be that as it may, here’s a summary through Voter # 4:
```auto
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FlorSt Bama Oreg MissiSt Bayl OhioSt Missi Georg MichSt UCLA KansSt Ariz Aubu Marsh Misso Utah Nebr ColoSt Okla USC Duke
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BobLibDem 11 FlorSt Bama MissiSt Bayl Missi Georg UCLA KansSt Ariz Aubu Nebr
Oredigger77 3 KansSt Utah USC
Zeldar 3 Ariz Misso USC
zoog 3 Utah Nebr USC
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FlorSt Bama Oreg MissiSt Bayl OhioSt Missi Georg MichSt UCLA KansSt ArizSt Wisc Ariz Aubu Marsh Misso Utah Nebr ColoSt Okla USC Duke
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4 20 1 1 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 1 2 0 0 2 1 0 1 2 2 0 0 3 0 /20
==============================================================================================================================================================================================
```
Head-to-head Top 25 teams:
```auto
################################################
(15) Arizona @ (20) Utah @@@ 4
(24) USC @ (11) UCLA ### 4
################################################
```
---
### Author:  [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2014, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-13-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/704799/7 "2014-11-19T23:23:54Z")
I’m going with utah and USC (Left) to lose this week.
---
### Author:  [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2014, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-13-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/704799/8 "2014-11-20T14:34:19Z")
Thursday Morning Update – roughly six hours left to vote:
```auto
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### @@@ @@@ ###
FlorSt Bama Oreg MissiSt Bayl OhioSt Missi Georg MichSt UCLA KansSt ArizSt Wisc Ariz Aubu Marsh Misso Utah Nebr ColoSt Okla USC Duke
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BobLibDem 11 FlorSt Bama MissiSt Bayl Missi Georg UCLA KansSt Ariz Aubu Nebr
dba Fred 3 Utah USC Duke
excavating (for a mind) 4 FlorSt Misso Utah USC
Oakminster 2 Utah USC
Oredigger77 3 KansSt Utah USC
Wolverine 2 Utah USC
Zakalwe 4 UCLA KansSt Ariz Misso
Zeldar 3 Ariz Misso USC
zoog 3 Utah Nebr USC
===========================================================================================================================================================
FlorSt Bama Oreg MissiSt Bayl OhioSt Missi Georg MichSt UCLA KansSt ArizSt Wisc Ariz Aubu Marsh Misso Utah Nebr ColoSt Okla USC Duke
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9 35 2 1 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 2 3 0 0 3 1 0 3 6 2 0 0 7 1 /35
==============================================================================================================================================================================================
```
The head-to-head counts:
```auto
################################################
(15) Arizona @ (20) Utah @@@ 9
(24) USC @ (11) UCLA ### 9
################################################
```
---
### Author:  [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2014, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-13-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/704799/9 "2014-11-20T16:50:31Z")
I really suck at this game, so I just picked all top-10 non-SEC teams to lose. Because, WTF, right?
---
### Author:  [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2014, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-13-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/704799/10 "2014-11-20T18:45:22Z")
> [@JohnT](#):
>
> I really suck at this game, so I just picked all top-10 non-SEC teams to lose. Because, WTF, right?
WTF is absolutely right! And I’m not one to advise on proper strategy, except to say that the automatic **-1** you’ve picked up by not picking the loser of the Arizona-Utah game (one of them **has to** lose) is all anybody can say at this point.
Thanks for playing again. You’re surely scoring better than some! 🙂
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Here’s one last summary before the poll closes in a couple of hours:
```auto
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### @@@ @@@ ###
FlorSt Bama Oreg MissiSt Bayl OhioSt Missi Georg MichSt UCLA KansSt ArizSt Wisc Ariz Aubu Marsh Misso Utah Nebr ColoSt Okla USC Duke
===========================================================================================================================================================
BobLibDem 11 FlorSt Bama MissiSt Bayl Missi Georg UCLA KansSt Ariz Aubu Nebr
dba Fred 3 Utah USC Duke
excavating (for a mind) 4 FlorSt Misso Utah USC
JohnT 8 FlorSt Oreg Bayl OhioSt MichSt UCLA Wisc () Misso ()
Nauplius 3 KansSt Ariz USC
Oakminster 2 Utah USC
Oredigger77 3 KansSt Utah USC
Wolverine 2 Utah USC
yellowjacketcoder 3 Utah USC Duke
Zakalwe 4 UCLA KansSt Ariz Misso
Zeldar 3 Ariz Misso USC
zoog 3 Utah Nebr USC
===========================================================================================================================================================
FlorSt Bama Oreg MissiSt Bayl OhioSt Missi Georg MichSt UCLA KansSt ArizSt Wisc Ariz Aubu Marsh Misso Utah Nebr ColoSt Okla USC Duke
===========================================================================================================================================================
11 49 3 1 1 1 2 1 1 1 1 3 4 0 1 4 1 0 4 7 2 0 0 9 2 /49
==============================================================================================================================================================================================
```
Head-to-head counts:
```auto
#################################################
(15) Arizona @ (20) Utah @@@ 11
(24) USC @ (11) UCLA ### 12
#################################################
```
---
### Author:  [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2014, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-13-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/704799/11 "2014-11-20T18:52:06Z")
My summary needs corrections and I missed the edit window. Please disregard the previous post!
---
### Author:  [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2014, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-13-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/704799/12 "2014-11-20T19:14:49Z")
Hopefully, this summary is a correction of the previous one. Please verify your own picks and let me know if I have missed other errors of reporting. My “fixes” were to those of **JohnT** and **Nauplius**.
```auto
===========================================================================================================================================================================================
### @@@ @@@ ###
FlorSt Bama Oreg MissiSt Bayl OhioSt Missi Georg MichSt UCLA KansSt ArizSt Wisc Ariz Aubu Marsh Misso Utah Nebr ColoSt Okla USC Duke
===========================================================================================================================================================
BobLibDem 11 FlorSt Bama MissiSt Bayl Missi Georg UCLA KansSt Ariz Aubu Nebr
dba Fred 3 Utah USC Duke
excavating (for a mind) 4 FlorSt Misso Utah USC
JohnT 8 FlorSt Oreg Bayl OhioSt MichSt UCLA Ariz Misso
Nauplius 3 KansSt Ariz USC
Oakminster 2 Utah USC
Oredigger77 3 KansSt Utah USC
Wolverine 2 Utah USC
yellowjacketcoder 3 Utah USC Duke
Zakalwe 4 UCLA KansSt Ariz Misso
Zeldar 3 Ariz Misso USC
zoog 3 Utah Nebr USC
===========================================================================================================================================================
FlorSt Bama Oreg MissiSt Bayl OhioSt Missi Georg MichSt UCLA KansSt ArizSt Wisc Ariz Aubu Marsh Misso Utah Nebr ColoSt Okla USC Duke
===========================================================================================================================================================
11 49 3 1 1 1 2 1 1 1 1 3 4 0 0 5 1 0 4 7 2 0 0 9 2 /49
==============================================================================================================================================================================================
```
Head-to-head numbers now agree:
```auto
#################################################
(15) Arizona @ (20) Utah @@@ 12
(24) USC @ (11) UCLA ### 12
#################################################
```
---
### Author:  [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2014, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-13-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/704799/13 "2014-11-20T19:22:46Z")
AZ to lose.
---
### Author:  [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2014, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-13-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/704799/14 "2014-11-20T20:13:00Z")
> [@Zeldar](#):
>
> Thanks for playing again. You’re surely scoring better than some! 🙂
Well, I’m doing better than 3 people, one of whom apparently picked all the top-25 teams to lose a week or two, given their score. 🙂
---
### Author:  [@yellowjacketcoder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowjacketcoder)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2014, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-13-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/704799/15 "2014-11-21T13:16:52Z")
They did it! OMG, the Tar Heels did it! They actually beat Duke and now my Jackets are going to the ACCCG! Wooooo!
Ahem. Also I got a point for my wishful thinking. woot.
---
### Author:  [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2014, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-13-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/704799/16 "2014-11-21T13:52:58Z")
**yellowjacketcoder** , they didn’t just beat Duke, they beat the crap out of Duke. Wow.
---
### Author:  [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)
#### Post date: [November 23, 2014, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-13-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/704799/17 "2014-11-23T04:51:52Z")
The Results:
```auto
===========================================================================================================================================================================================
W W W W W W L W W W W W W W W W W L L W W L L
### @@@ @@@ ###
FlorSt Bama Oreg MissiSt Bayl OhioSt Missi Georg MichSt UCLA KansSt ArizSt Wisc Ariz Aubu Marsh Misso Utah Nebr ColoSt Okla USC Duke
===========================================================================================================================================================
BobLibDem 11 FlorSt Bama MissiSt Bayl Missi Georg UCLA KansSt Ariz Aubu Nebr
dba Fred 3 Utah USC Duke
excavating (for a mind) 4 FlorSt Misso Utah USC
JohnT 8 FlorSt Oreg Bayl OhioSt MichSt UCLA Ariz Misso
Nauplius 3 KansSt Ariz USC
Oakminster 2 Utah USC
Oredigger77 3 KansSt Utah USC
Wolverine 2 Utah USC
yellowjacketcoder 3 Utah USC Duke
Zakalwe 4 UCLA KansSt Ariz Misso
Zeldar 3 Ariz Misso USC
zoog 3 Utah Nebr USC
===========================================================================================================================================================
FlorSt Bama Oreg MissiSt Bayl OhioSt Missi Georg MichSt UCLA KansSt ArizSt Wisc Ariz Aubu Marsh Misso Utah Nebr ColoSt Okla USC Duke
===========================================================================================================================================================
12 49 3 1 1 1 2 1 1 1 1 3 4 0 0 5 1 0 4 7 2 0 0 9 2 /49
==============================================================================================================================================================================================
```
The Scores:
```auto
===========================================================================================================================================================================================
W W W W W W L W W W W W W W W W W L L W W L L
### @@@ @@@ ###
FlorSt Bama Oreg MissiSt Bayl OhioSt Missi Georg MichSt UCLA KansSt ArizSt Wisc Ariz Aubu Marsh Misso Utah Nebr ColoSt Okla USC Duke
===========================================================================================================================================================
dba Fred +3/3 +1 +1 +1
zoog +3/3 +1 +1 +1
yellowjacketcoder +3/3 +1 +1 +1
Oakminster +2/2 +1 +1
Wolverine +2/2 +1 +1
Oredigger77 +1/3 -1 +1 +1
excavating (for a mind) 0/4 -1 -1 +1 +1
Nauplius -1/3 -1 -1 +1
Zeldar -1/3 -1 -1 +1
Zakalwe -4/4 -1 -1 -1 -1
JohnT -8/8 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1
BobLibDem -7/11 -1 -1 -1 -1 +1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 +1
===========================================================================================================================================================
FlorSt Bama Oreg MissiSt Bayl OhioSt Missi Georg MichSt UCLA KansSt ArizSt Wisc Ariz Aubu Marsh Misso Utah Nebr ColoSt Okla USC Duke
===========================================================================================================================================================
12 49 3 1 1 1 2 1 1 1 1 3 4 0 0 5 1 0 4 7 2 0 0 9 2 /49
==============================================================================================================================================================================================
```
---
### Author:  [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)
#### Post date: [November 23, 2014, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-13-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/704799/18 "2014-11-23T13:04:22Z")
Whoo hoo! Perfect score! Out of 4 picks, I missed 4! Yeah, me! :mad:
Anyway, here are the season standings:
```auto
Name Total Wk01 Wk02 Wk03 Wk04 Wk05 Wk06 Wk07 Wk08 Wk09 Wk10 Wk11 Wk12 Wk13 Wk14
Zakalwe 8 1 2 -1 1 -1 2 2 1 0 3 0 2 -4
zoog 8 '0' '0' '0' 1 0 -2 2 2 2 0 2 -2 3
Nauplius 6 2 -1 -1 1 1 0 0 2 -3 2 2 2 -1
Oakminster 5 4 -2 -1 3 -2 -4 1 1 0 2 2 -1 2
yellowjacketcoder 5 '0' '0' '0' 2 '0' '0' -1 '0' -3 '0' 3 1 3
excavating (for a mind) 3 '0' -1 '0' 2 -2 2 1 -1 '0' 4 2 -4 0
Barkis is Willin' 2 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' 2 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0'
Frosted Glass 2 2 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0'
Snupzilla 2 2 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0'
tonyfop 2 '0' 3 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' -1 '0' '0' '0' '0'
USCDiver 2 2 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0'
Chingon 1 '0' '0' '0' -2 '0' '0' '0' 3 -1 1 '0' '0' '0'
doverpro 1 1 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0'
Mince 1 1 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0'
Really Not All That Bright 1 1 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0'
basset hound 0 0 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' -1 '0' 2 -1 '0'
Duckster 0 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' 0 '0'
Doctor Who -1 2 -2 -1 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0'
Labrador Deceiver -1 '0' '0' -1 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0'
LonghornDave -1 -1 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0'
MadTheSwine -1 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' -1 '0'
Pai325 -1 -1 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0'
RetroVertigo -1 '0' -1 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0'
Sterling Archer -1 0 '0' -1 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0'
Waterman -1 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' -1 '0'
armedmonkey -2 '0' 0 -1 2 -2 -3 -1 3 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0'
bump -2 -1 -1 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0'
jsc1953 -2 -3 2 '0' -3 -1 '0' '0' 0 -1 4 '0' '0' '0'
Quintas -2 '0' '0' '0' -2 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0'
The Universe Lashes Out -2 '0' -1 '0' '0' -1 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0'
Hook -4 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' -4 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0'
susan -4 -4 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0'
HubZilla -5 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' -4 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' -1 '0'
Oredigger77 -5 '0' 0 0 '0' -2 '0' 0 '0' -2 -1 -3 2 1
Zeldar -5 0 -1 0 -1 -1 -2 3 -2 -2 4 -2 0 -1
janeslogin -6 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' -6 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0'
Typo Negative -6 -3 -3 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0'
dba Fred -7 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' -2 -4 2 -6 3
Zyanthia -7 -1 0 -3 1 -2 0 2 -4 -3 2 1 '0' '0'
Ponch8 -8 '0' '0' '0' -1 -2 -4 -1 '0' '0' 1 -1 '0' '0'
Snowboarder Bo -8 1 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' -3 -3 2 0 -5 '0'
astorian -11 0 -2 -2 -3 -2 -3 1 3 '0' 0 -3 '0' '0'
Wolverine -14 1 1 -2 0 -1 -3 1 -5 -3 -3 1 -3 2
JohnT -18 0 '0' -3 '0' -2 1 1 '0' -2 -4 0 -1 -8
BobLibDem -60 -5 -9 -7 '0' -4 1 -1 -10 -6 -5 -7 0 -7
```
‘0’ means did not play that week (counts as 0). Underlined name means played in the most recent week.
---
### Author:  [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)
#### Post date: [November 23, 2014, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-13-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/704799/19 "2014-11-23T13:32:30Z")
For those wanting a head start second-guessing the AP Rankings Update later today:
```auto
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/standings
Standings -- Bowl Subdivision
Florida State (1) 8-0 11-0
Marshall (18) 7-0 11-0
Alabama (2) 6-1 10-1
Oregon (3) 7-1 10-1
Mississippi State (4) 6-1 10-1
Ohio State (7) 7-0 10-1
Colorado State (22) 6-1 10-1
TCU (5) 6-1 9-1
Baylor (6) 6-1 9-1
Georgia (9) 6-2 9-2
Michigan State (10) 6-1 9-2
UCLA (11) 6-2 9-2
Arizona State (13) 6-2 9-2
Wisconsin (14) 6-1 9-2
Arizona (15) 6-2 9-2
Georgia Tech (17) 6-2 9-2
Missouri (19) 6-1 9-2
Kansas State (12) 6-1 8-2
Ole Miss (8) 4-3 8-3
Auburn (16) 4-3 8-3
Nebraska (21) 4-3 8-3
Oklahoma (23) 5-3 8-3
Duke (25) 4-3 8-3
Utah (20) 4-4 7-4
USC (24) 6-3 7-4
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Northern Illinois 6-1 9-2
Boise State 6-1 9-2
Utah State 6-1 9-3
Memphis 6-1 8-3
Clemson 6-2 8-3
Louisville 5-3 8-3
Minnesota 5-2 8-3
Western Michigan 6-1 8-3
Air Force 4-3 8-3
Georgia Southern 7-0 8-3
Cincinnati 5-1 7-3
UCF 5-1 7-3
East Carolina 4-2 7-3
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