# Week 14 CFB -- Which AP Top 25 team(s) will lose?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-14-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/705427>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [November 23, 2014, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-14-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/705427 "2014-11-23T20:12:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2014, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-14-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/705427/1 "2014-11-23T20:12:15Z")

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Scoring for this week’s poll is as follows:

1. Pick a team to LOSE and they LOSE – **+1 point**

2. Pick a team to LOSE and they WIN – **-1 point**

3. Fail to pick a LOSER in a game involving two Top 25 teams-- **-1 point**  
(two Top 25 teams playing – one must lose)

4. Pick both teams to LOSE in a game involving two Top 25 teams-- **-1 point**  
(two Top 25 teams playing – one must lose)

**@@@, ###, &&&, %%%, $$$ = must pick one or the other!**

# =====================================================================================

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NCAAF Scores & Schedule

Top 25 FBS

Week: 14

```auto

Thursday, November 27 

 7:30 PM EST (6) TCU @ Texas  

Friday, November 28 

12:00 PM EST W. Kentucky @ (19) Marshall  
 2:30 PM EST Arkansas @ (17) Missouri 
 3:30 PM EST (13) Arizona St. @ (12) Arizona @@@
 3:30 PM EST Stanford @ (9) UCLA   
 3:30 PM EST (21) Colorado St. @ Air Force  

Saturday, November 29 

 7:45 PM EST (15) Auburn @ (2) Alabama ###
12:00 PM EST South Carolina @ (23) Clemson   
12:00 PM EST Michigan @ (7) Ohio St.   
12:00 PM EST (16) Georgia Tech @ (8) Georgia &&&
12:00 PM EST Kentucky @ (24) Louisville  
         TBA (3) Oregon @ Oregon St.  
 3:30 PM EST Florida @ (1) Florida St.  
 3:30 PM EST (10) Michigan St. @ Penn St.  
 3:30 PM EST (22) Minnesota @ (14) Wisconsin %%%
 3:30 PM EST (4) Mississippi St. @ (18) Mississippi $$$  
 3:30 PM EST (5) Baylor @ Texas Tech 
 4:00 PM EST Kansas @ (11) Kansas St.   
10:15 PM EST Utah St. @ (25) Boise St. 

**@@@, ###, &&&, %%%, $$$ = must pick one or the other!**

```

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College Football – The AP Top 25 Poll – Week 14

```auto

 1 Florida State ACC Record: 11-0 
 2 Alabama SEC Record: 10-1 ###
 3 Oregon Pac-12 Record: 10-1 
 4 Mississippi State SEC Record: 10-1 $$$
 5 Baylor Big 12 Record: 9-1 
 6 TCU Big 12 Record: 9-1 
 7 Ohio State Big Ten Record: 10-1 
 8 Georgia SEC Record: 9-2 &&&
 9 UCLA Pac-12 Record: 9-2 
10 Michigan State Big Ten Record: 9-2 
11 Kansas State Big 12 Record: 8-2 
12 Arizona Pac-12 Record: 9-2 @@@
13 Arizona State Pac-12 Record: 9-2 @@@
14 Wisconsin Big Ten Record: 9-2 %%%
15 Auburn SEC Record: 8-3 ###
16 Georgia Tech ACC Record: 9-2 &&&
17 Missouri SEC Record: 9-2 
18 Mississippi SEC Record: 8-3 $$$
19 Marshall Conference USA Record: 11-0 
20 Oklahoma Big 12 Record: 8-3 Week 15: Saturday, December 6 TBA Oklahoma St. 
21 Colorado State Mountain West Record: 10-1 
22 Minnesota Big Ten Record: 8-3 %%%
23 Clemson ACC Record: 8-3 
24 Louisville ACC Record: 8-3 
25 Boise State Mountain West Record: 9-2 

Poll released: Nov 23

```

**@@@, ###, &&&, %%%, $$$ = must pick one or the other!**

=========================================================  
**Multiple Choice Public Poll on the way…**

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2014, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-14-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/705427/2 "2014-11-23T21:23:56Z")

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I’ll make my picks later, but Rivalry Week is awesome.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2014, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-14-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/705427/3 "2014-11-23T21:57:57Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
>
> I’ll make my picks later, but Rivalry Week is awesome.

Indeed! Makes the search this past weekend for something decent to watch pale by comparison. Some fur’s gonna fly this week! 🙂

My main hope is that it will blow up the Committee’s best laid plans! I’d love it if they have to start from scratch.

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**Author:** ![yellowjacketcoder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4bbf92/32.png) [@yellowjacketcoder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowjacketcoder)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-14-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/705427/4 "2014-11-24T02:49:21Z")

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I like that there’s 5 games with ranked teams playing each other. Best way for the season to end.

That said, while I voted for my Jackets, I think it will be a close game in Athens.

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**Author:** ![dba\_Fred](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c37758/32.png) [@dba\_Fred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dba_Fred)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-14-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/705427/5 "2014-11-25T13:17:11Z")

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Going out on a limb on the **must picks** by selecting the lower-ranked teams to lose.  
For the Utah State-Boise State game, I have to go with Utah State because Boise isn’t a **state**.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-14-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/705427/6 "2014-11-25T14:03:28Z")

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Here’s the Tuesday Morning Report:

```auto

================================================================================================================================================================================================ 
                                        ### $$$ &&& @@@ @@@ %%% ### &&& $$$ %%% 
                                FlaSt Bama Oreg MissiSt Bayl TCU OhSt Geor UCLA MichSt KansSt Ariz ArizSt Wisc Aub GeoTch Misso Missi Marsh ColoSt Minne Clem Louis Boise                                
                                ================================================================================================================================================================ 
basset hound 6 FlaSt Ariz Aub GeoTch Missi Minne   
dba Fred 6 ArizSt Aub GeoTch Missi Minne Boise 
yellowjacketcoder 5 Geor Ariz Aub Missi Minne
Zeldar 8 FlaSt Bama Ariz Wisc GeoTch Missi Clem Louis Ariz Misso USC      
                                ================================================================================================================================================================ 
                                FlaSt Bama Oreg MissiSt Bayl TCU OhSt Geor UCLA MichSt KansSt Ariz ArizSt Wisc Aub GeoTch Misso Missi Marsh ColoSt Minne Clem Louis Boise 
                                ================================================================================================================================================================ 
   4 25 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 3 1 1 3 3 0 4 0 0 3 1 1 1 /25
=================================================================================================================================================================================================== 

```

The Head-to-head Counts:

```auto

&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
(13) Arizona St. @ (12) Arizona @@@ 4
(15) Auburn @ (2) Alabama ### 4 
(16) Georgia Tech @ (8) Georgia &&& 4
(22) Minnesota @ (14) Wisconsin %%% 4
(4) Mississippi St. @ (18) Mississippi $$$ 4 
&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

```

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2014, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-14-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/705427/7 "2014-11-26T06:17:21Z")

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I’ve got Auburn, Georgia, Missouri, Ole Miss, Minnesota, and Arizona to lose.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2014, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-14-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/705427/8 "2014-11-26T06:32:01Z")

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This is either Very Late Tuesday or Very Early Wednesday Report:

```auto

================================================================================================================================================================================================ 
                                        ### $$$ &&& @@@ @@@ %%% ### &&& $$$ %%% 
                                FlaSt Bama Oreg MissiSt Bayl TCU OhSt Geor UCLA MichSt KansSt Ariz ArizSt Wisc Aub GeoTch Misso Missi Marsh ColoSt Minne Clem Louis Boise                                
                                ================================================================================================================================================================ 
basset hound 6 FlaSt Ariz Aub GeoTch Missi Minne   
BobLibDem 9 FlaSt Bama MissiSt TCU Geor UCLA ArizSt Wisc Misso
dba Fred 6 ArizSt Aub GeoTch Missi Minne Boise 
MadTheSwine 6 (Bama) (MissiSt) Geor () () () (Aub) Misso (Missi) ()
Oakminster 6 Geor Ariz Aub Misso Missi Minne     
Wolverine 7 FlaSt Geor Ariz Aub Misso Missi Minne 
yellowjacketcoder 5 Geor Ariz Aub Missi Minne
Zeldar 8 FlaSt Bama Ariz Wisc GeoTch Missi Clem Louis   
zoog 6 MissiSt Geor ArizSt Aub Minne Clem
Zyanthia 6 Bama MichSt ArizSt GeoTch Missi Minne                                                                                      
                                ================================================================================================================================================================ 
                                FlaSt Bama Oreg MissiSt Bayl TCU OhSt Geor UCLA MichSt KansSt Ariz ArizSt Wisc Aub GeoTch Misso Missi Marsh ColoSt Minne Clem Louis Boise 
                                ================================================================================================================================================================ 
   10 65 4 4 0 3 0 1 0 6 1 1 0 5 4 2 7 4 4 8 0 0 7 2 1 1 /65
=================================================================================================================================================================================================== 

```

The head-to-head counts:

```auto

&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
(13) Arizona St. @ (12) Arizona @@@ 9
(15) Auburn @ (2) Alabama ### 11 
(16) Georgia Tech @ (8) Georgia &&& 10
(22) Minnesota @ (14) Wisconsin %%% 9
(4) Mississippi St. @ (18) Mississippi $$$ 11 
&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

```

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2014, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-14-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/705427/9 "2014-11-27T12:47:16Z")

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Okay, my picks are in. Pretty vanilla this week for me.

I can’t believe I’m the only one to pick "@@@, ###, &&&, %%%, $$$ = must pick one or the other! " to lose. That team is going down - big time! Time to lay a bet and make some Christmas money.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2014, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-14-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/705427/10 "2014-11-27T15:52:24Z")

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> [@Zakalwe](#):
>
> Okay, my picks are in. Pretty vanilla this week for me.
> 
> I can’t believe I’m the only one to pick "@@@, ###, &&&, %%%, $$$ = must pick one or the other! " to lose. That team is going down - big time! Time to lay a bet and make some Christmas money.

You got that right! Well played!

This may be the final summary post, as the poll closes in less than 5 hours. At least we beat our worst week for participation (last week)!

```auto

================================================================================================================================================================================================ 
                                        ### $$$ &&& @@@ @@@ %%% ### &&& $$$ %%% 
                                FlaSt Bama Oreg MissiSt Bayl TCU OhSt Geor UCLA MichSt KansSt Ariz ArizSt Wisc Aub GeoTch Misso Missi Marsh ColoSt Minne Clem Louis Boise                                
                                ================================================================================================================================================================ 
basset hound 6 FlaSt Ariz Aub GeoTch Missi Minne   
BobLibDem 9 FlaSt Bama MissiSt TCU Geor UCLA ArizSt Wisc Misso
dba Fred 6 ArizSt Aub GeoTch Missi Minne Boise 
excavating (for a mind) 8 Bama ArizSt GeoTch Misso Missi Minne Clem Louis
MadTheSwine 6 (Bama) (MissiSt) Geor () () () (Aub) Misso (Missi) ()
Nauplius 5 Geor ArizSt Aub Missi Minne
Oakminster 6 Geor Ariz Aub Misso Missi Minne     
Oredigger77 6 MissiSt ArizSt Aub GeoTch Minne Louis
Wolverine 7 FlaSt Geor Ariz Aub Misso Missi Minne 
yellowjacketcoder 5 Geor Ariz Aub Missi Minne
Zakalwe 5 ArizSt Aub GeoTch Missi Minne 
Zeldar 8 FlaSt Bama Ariz Wisc GeoTch Missi Clem Louis   
zoog 6 MissiSt Geor ArizSt Aub Minne Clem
Zyanthia 6 Bama MichSt ArizSt GeoTch Missi Minne                                                                                      
                                ================================================================================================================================================================ 
                                FlaSt Bama Oreg MissiSt Bayl TCU OhSt Geor UCLA MichSt KansSt Ariz ArizSt Wisc Aub GeoTch Misso Missi Marsh ColoSt Minne Clem Louis Boise 
                                ================================================================================================================================================================ 
   14 89 4 5 0 4 0 1 0 7 1 1 0 5 8 2 10 7 5 11 0 0 11 3 3 1 /89
=================================================================================================================================================================================================== 

```

The head-to-head tally:

```auto

&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
(13) Arizona St. @ (12) Arizona @@@ 13
(15) Auburn @ (2) Alabama ### 15 
(16) Georgia Tech @ (8) Georgia &&& 14
(22) Minnesota @ (14) Wisconsin %%% 13
(4) Mississippi St. @ (18) Mississippi $$$ 15 
&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

```

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2014, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-14-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/705427/11 "2014-11-30T13:28:21Z")

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The Results:

```auto

================================================================================================================================================================================================ 
                                  W W W L W W W L L W W W L W L W W W L L L W W W
                                        ### $$$ &&& @@@ @@@ %%% ### &&& $$$ %%% 
                                FlaSt Bama Oreg MissiSt Bayl TCU OhSt Geor UCLA MichSt KansSt Ariz ArizSt Wisc Aub GeoTch Misso Missi Marsh ColoSt Minne Clem Louis Boise                                
                                ================================================================================================================================================================ 
basset hound 6 FlaSt Ariz Aub GeoTch Missi Minne   
BobLibDem 9 FlaSt Bama MissiSt TCU Geor UCLA ArizSt Wisc Misso
dba Fred 6 ArizSt Aub GeoTch Missi Minne Boise 
excavating (for a mind) 8 Bama ArizSt GeoTch Misso Missi Minne Clem Louis
MadTheSwine 6 (Bama) (MissiSt) Geor () () () (Aub) Misso (Missi) ()
Nauplius 5 Geor ArizSt Aub Missi Minne
Oakminster 6 Geor Ariz Aub Misso Missi Minne     
Oredigger77 6 MissiSt ArizSt Aub GeoTch Minne Louis
Wolverine 7 FlaSt Geor Ariz Aub Misso Missi Minne 
yellowjacketcoder 5 Geor Ariz Aub Missi Minne
Zakalwe 5 ArizSt Aub GeoTch Missi Minne 
Zeldar 8 FlaSt Bama Ariz Wisc GeoTch Missi Clem Louis   
zoog 6 MissiSt Geor ArizSt Aub Minne Clem
Zyanthia 6 Bama MichSt ArizSt GeoTch Missi Minne                                                                                      
                                ================================================================================================================================================================ 
                                FlaSt Bama Oreg MissiSt Bayl TCU OhSt Geor UCLA MichSt KansSt Ariz ArizSt Wisc Aub GeoTch Misso Missi Marsh ColoSt Minne Clem Louis Boise 
                                ================================================================================================================================================================ 
   14 89 4 5 0 4 0 1 0 7 1 1 0 5 8 2 10 7 5 11 0 0 11 3 3 1 /89
=================================================================================================================================================================================================== 

```

The Scores:

```auto

================================================================================================================================================================================================ 
                                  W W W L W W W L L W W W L W L W W W L L L W W W
                                        ### $$$ &&& @@@ @@@ %%% ### &&& $$$ %%% 
                                FlaSt Bama Oreg MissiSt Bayl TCU OhSt Geor UCLA MichSt KansSt Ariz ArizSt Wisc Aub GeoTch Misso Missi Marsh ColoSt Minne Clem Louis Boise                                
                                ================================================================================================================================================================ 
zoog +4/6 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 -1 
Nauplius +3/5 +1 +1 +1 -1 +1 
Oredigger77 +2/6 +1 +1 +1 -1 +1 -1 
yellowjacketcoder +1/5 +1 -1 +1 -1 +1 
Zakalwe +1/5 +1 +1 -1 -1 +1    
dba Fred 0/6 +1 +1 -1 -1 +1 -1 
Oakminster 0/6 +1 -1 +1 -1 -1 +1  
BobLibDem -1/9 -1 -1 +1 -1 +1 +1 +1 -1 -1    
Wolverine -1/7 -1 +1 -1 +1 -1 -1 +1  
basset hound -2/6 -1 -1 +1 -1 -1 +1   
Zyanthia -2/6 -1 -1 +1 -1 -1 +1                
excavating (for a mind)-4/8 -1 +1 -1 -1 -1 +1 -1 -1 
MadTheSwine -4/6 (-1) (-1) +1 (-1) () (-1) () -1 () () 
Zeldar -8/8 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1                                                                          
                                ================================================================================================================================================================ 
                                FlaSt Bama Oreg MissiSt Bayl TCU OhSt Geor UCLA MichSt KansSt Ariz ArizSt Wisc Aub GeoTch Misso Missi Marsh ColoSt Minne Clem Louis Boise 
                                ================================================================================================================================================================ 
   14 89 4 5 0 4 0 1 0 7 1 1 0 5 8 2 10 7 5 11 0 0 11 3 3 1 /89
=================================================================================================================================================================================================== 

```

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2014, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-14-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/705427/12 "2014-11-30T16:47:46Z")

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zeldar,

Can you check your scores? Here’s what I got:

```auto

basset hound -2
BobLibDem -1
dba Fred 1
excavating (for a mind) -4
MadTheSwine -2
Nauplius 3
Oakminster 0
Oredigger77 2
Wolverine -1
yellowjacketcoder 1
Zakalwe 1
Zeldar -8
zoog 4
Zyanthia -2

```

Specifically, dba\_Fred and MadTheSwine look off.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2014, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-14-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/705427/13 "2014-11-30T17:16:50Z")

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> [@Zakalwe](#):
>
> zeldar,
> 
> Can you check your scores? Here’s what I got:
> 
> ```auto
> 
> basset hound -2
> BobLibDem -1
> dba Fred 1
> excavating (for a mind) -4
> MadTheSwine -2
> Nauplius 3
> Oakminster 0
> Oredigger77 2
> Wolverine -1
> yellowjacketcoder 1
> Zakalwe 1
> Zeldar -8
> zoog 4
> Zyanthia -2
> 
> ```
> 
> Specifically, dba\_Fred and MadTheSwine look off.

Here’s how those picks went:

```auto

================================================================================================================================================================================================ 
                                  W W W L W W W L L W W W L W L W W W L L L W W W
                                        ### $$$ &&& @@@ @@@ %%% ### &&& $$$ %%% 
                                FlaSt Bama Oreg MissiSt Bayl TCU OhSt Geor UCLA MichSt KansSt Ariz ArizSt Wisc Aub GeoTch Misso Missi Marsh ColoSt Minne Clem Louis Boise                                
                                ================================================================================================================================================================ 
dba Fred 6 ArizSt Aub GeoTch Missi Minne Boise 
MadTheSwine 6 (Bama) (MissiSt) Geor () () () (Aub) Misso (Missi) ()
                                                    
                                ================================================================================================================================================================ 
                                FlaSt Bama Oreg MissiSt Bayl TCU OhSt Geor UCLA MichSt KansSt Ariz ArizSt Wisc Aub GeoTch Misso Missi Marsh ColoSt Minne Clem Louis Boise 
                                ================================================================================================================================================================ 
   14 89 4 5 0 4 0 1 0 7 1 1 0 5 8 2 10 7 5 11 0 0 11 3 3 1 /89
=================================================================================================================================================================================================== 
================================================================================================================================================================================================ 
                                  W W W L W W W L L W W W L W L W W W L L L W W W
                                        ### $$$ &&& @@@ @@@ %%% ### &&& $$$ %%% 
                                FlaSt Bama Oreg MissiSt Bayl TCU OhSt Geor UCLA MichSt KansSt Ariz ArizSt Wisc Aub GeoTch Misso Missi Marsh ColoSt Minne Clem Louis Boise                                
                                ================================================================================================================================================================ 
 
dba Fred 0/6 +1 +1 -1 -1 +1 -1 
MadTheSwine -4/6 (-1) (-1) +1 (-1) () (-1) () -1 () () 
                                                                       
                                ================================================================================================================================================================ 
                                FlaSt Bama Oreg MissiSt Bayl TCU OhSt Geor UCLA MichSt KansSt Ariz ArizSt Wisc Aub GeoTch Misso Missi Marsh ColoSt Minne Clem Louis Boise 
                                ================================================================================================================================================================ 
   14 89 4 5 0 4 0 1 0 7 1 1 0 5 8 2 10 7 5 11 0 0 11 3 3 1 /89
=================================================================================================================================================================================================== 

```

Did you count the -1 scores for **MadTheSwine**?

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2014, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-14-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/705427/14 "2014-11-30T17:49:00Z")

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> [@Zeldar](#):
>

Did you give him -1 for picking Mississippi State to lose by accident? 🙂

He also took Auburn and should get 1 pt for that…

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2014, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-14-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/705427/15 "2014-11-30T17:55:33Z")

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> [@Zakalwe](#):
>
> Did you give him -1 for picking Mississippi State to lose by accident? 🙂
> 
> He also took Auburn and should get 1 pt for that…

He double-picked Miss-MissState, Aub-Bama and failed to pick in the Arizona and Wisconsin games. His picks for Georgia and Missouri netted 0.

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2014, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-14-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/705427/16 "2014-11-30T19:44:03Z")

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> [@Zeldar](#):
>
> He double-picked Miss-MissState, Aub-Bama and failed to pick in the Arizona and Wisconsin games. His picks for Georgia and Missouri netted 0.

I guess I don’t understand. Here’s how I would see it:

Georgia +1  
Missouri -1  
Alabama -1  
Auburn +1  
Miss +1  
Miss State -1  
Nets to 0. Count the two -1s for not picking Ariz/ASU and Wisc/Minn and you end up at -2.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2014, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-14-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/705427/17 "2014-11-30T19:54:57Z")

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> [@Zakalwe](#):
>
> I guess I don’t understand. Here’s how I would see it:
> 
> Georgia +1  
> Missouri -1  
> Alabama -1  
> Auburn +1  
> Miss +1  
> Miss State -1  
> Nets to 0. Count the two -1s for not picking Ariz/ASU and Wisc/Minn and you end up at -2.

Please read the OP – Item #4. The Auburn-Bama double pick is -1 not net 0. Same with Miss-MissState. Otherwise your numbers are okay.

ETA: Picking a team = picking that team to LOSE!

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**Post date:** [November 30, 2014, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-14-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/705427/18 "2014-11-30T20:21:44Z")

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Okay, got it. Never noticed that rule before. It also affected Week 12 for MtS, I’ve corrected that.

Here are the updated season standings, zoog knocks me out of first with a great week.

```auto

Name Total Wk01 Wk02 Wk03 Wk04 Wk05 Wk06 Wk07 Wk08 Wk09 Wk10 Wk11 Wk12 Wk13 Wk14
zoog 12 '0' '0' '0' 1 0 -2 2 2 2 0 2 -2 3 4
Nauplius 9 2 -1 -1 1 1 0 0 2 -3 2 2 2 -1 3
Zakalwe 9 1 2 -1 1 -1 2 2 1 0 3 0 2 -4 1
yellowjacketcoder 6 '0' '0' '0' 2 '0' '0' -1 '0' -3 '0' 3 1 3 1
Oakminster 5 4 -2 -1 3 -2 -4 1 1 0 2 2 -1 2 0
Barkis is Willin' 2 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' 2 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0'
Frosted Glass 2 2 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0'
Snupzilla 2 2 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0'
tonyfop 2 '0' 3 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' -1 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0'
USCDiver 2 2 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0'
Chingon 1 '0' '0' '0' -2 '0' '0' '0' 3 -1 1 '0' '0' '0' '0'
doverpro 1 1 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0'
Mince 1 1 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0'
Really Not All That Bright 1 1 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0'
Duckster 0 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' 0 '0' '0'
Doctor Who -1 2 -2 -1 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0'
excavating (for a mind) -1 '0' -1 '0' 2 -2 2 1 -1 '0' 4 2 -4 0 -4
Labrador Deceiver -1 '0' '0' -1 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0'
LonghornDave -1 -1 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0'
Pai325 -1 -1 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0'
RetroVertigo -1 '0' -1 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0'
Sterling Archer -1 0 '0' -1 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0'
Waterman -1 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' -1 '0' '0'
armedmonkey -2 '0' 0 -1 2 -2 -3 -1 3 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0'
basset hound -2 0 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' -1 '0' 2 -1 '0' -2
bump -2 -1 -1 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0'
jsc1953 -2 -3 2 '0' -3 -1 '0' '0' 0 -1 4 '0' '0' '0' '0'
Quintas -2 '0' '0' '0' -2 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0'
The Universe Lashes Out -2 '0' -1 '0' '0' -1 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0'
Oredigger77 -3 '0' 0 0 '0' -2 '0' 0 '0' -2 -1 -3 2 1 2
Hook -4 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' -4 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0'
susan -4 -4 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0'
HubZilla -5 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' -4 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' -1 '0' '0'
janeslogin -6 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' -6 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0'
Typo Negative -6 -3 -3 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0'
dba Fred -7 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' -2 -4 2 -6 3 0
MadTheSwine -7 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' -3 '0' -4
Ponch8 -8 '0' '0' '0' -1 -2 -4 -1 '0' '0' 1 -1 '0' '0' '0'
Snowboarder Bo -8 1 '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' -3 -3 2 0 -5 '0' '0'
Zyanthia -9 -1 0 -3 1 -2 0 2 -4 -3 2 1 '0' '0' -2
astorian -11 0 -2 -2 -3 -2 -3 1 3 '0' 0 -3 '0' '0' '0'
Zeldar -13 0 -1 0 -1 -1 -2 3 -2 -2 4 -2 0 -1 -8
Wolverine -15 1 1 -2 0 -1 -3 1 -5 -3 -3 1 -3 2 -1
JohnT -18 0 '0' -3 '0' -2 1 1 '0' -2 -4 0 -1 -8 '0'
BobLibDem -61 -5 -9 -7 '0' -4 1 -1 -10 -6 -5 -7 0 -7 -1

```

‘0’ means did not play that week (counts as 0). Underlined name means played in the most recent week.

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**Post date:** [November 30, 2014, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-14-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/705427/19 "2014-11-30T20:40:06Z")

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> [@Zakalwe](#):
>
> Okay, got it. Never noticed that rule before. It also affected Week 12 for MtS, I’ve corrected that.
> 
> Here are the updated season standings, zoog knocks me out of first with a great week.
> 
> \<\<\< clipped \>\>\>

We cool! Thanks for all your work. Much appreciated.

BTW: I suspect not everybody paid close attention to those rules.

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**Author:** ![yellowjacketcoder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4bbf92/32.png) [@yellowjacketcoder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowjacketcoder)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2014, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-14-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/705427/20 "2014-12-01T02:40:17Z")

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A - OMG that was a crazy game in Athens that my Jackets pulled out.

B - HTF am I in 4th place? 😕😕😕
