# Week 14 CFB -- Which AP Top Ten team(s) will lose? **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [November 24, 2013, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-14-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/674681 "2013-11-24T17:15:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2013, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-14-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/674681/1 "2013-11-24T17:15:42Z")
```auto AP Top 25: Week 14 Records through Sat Nov 23, 2013. 1. Alabama 2. Florida St. 3. Ohio St. 4. Auburn 5. Missouri 6. Clemson 7. Oklahoma St. (idle) 8. Stanford 9. Baylor 10. South Carolina 11. Michigan St. 12. Oregon 13. Arizona St. 14. Wisconsin 15. LSU 16. Fresno St. 17. UCF 18. Northern Illinois 19. Texas A&M 20. Oklahoma (idle) 21. LA Lafayette 22. UCLA 23. USC 24. Duke 25. Notre Dame ``` ```auto ========================================================= 2013 NCAA Division I-A Football Schedule - Week 14 Group:FBS (Division I-A) Week: 14 Saturday, November 30 TBA (9) Baylor at TCU 12:00 PM (2) Florida State at Florida 12:00 PM (3) Ohio State at Michigan 3:30 PM (1) Alabama at (4) Auburn 7:00 PM (6) Clemson at (10) South Carolina 7:00 PM (25) Notre Dame at (8) Stanford 7:45 PM (19) Texas A&M at (5) Missouri ========================================================= ``` Poll on the way… ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2013, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-14-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/674681/2 "2013-11-24T17:24:39Z")
\*\*\*\*\* Please note: I will close the voting array for scoring on Saturday 11/30 – NOT 12-03! \*\*\*\*\* Votes after that point will not be counted for the Scoring Array. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2013, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-14-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/674681/3 "2013-11-24T18:16:08Z")
I really wanted to pick das Ohio State, but the wheels have fallen off of Michigan in the last month or so, so I backed away from it. I took Clemson because I think they are going to Clemson it up this weekend, and I chose Alabama 'cause War Eagle. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2013, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-14-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/674681/4 "2013-11-24T19:12:50Z")
Alabama loses; FSU plays OSU for the championship and wins by 37 points. FSU! FSU! ---
**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2013, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-14-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/674681/5 "2013-11-24T20:42:08Z")
Auburn loses to Bama, and USC-lite loses to Clemson. On a side note Mizzou beats aTm, and then squeaks by Bama in a thriller, before winning against FSU in Pasadena. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2013, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-14-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/674681/6 "2013-11-24T22:24:51Z")
I’m holding my vote for now. I need to decide how I feel about Miz/A&M. **Snowboarder Bo** , I wish. Unfortunately, I think FSU will be starting Maguire in the Nat’l Championship game - which will be 'Bama and we’ll lose that matchup. **RetroVertigo** , in your dreams. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-14-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/674681/7 "2013-11-25T17:21:19Z")
Here’s an early look: ```auto ================================================ Alabama Florida St. Ohio St. Auburn Missouri Clemson Stanford Baylor South Carolina =========================================================================================== armedmonkey 2 Alabama Clemson LuckyNumber85 2 Auburn South Carolina Munch 1 Missouri RetroVertigo 2 Auburn South Carolina Snowboarder Bo 1 Alabama USCDiver 3 Auburn Missouri Clemson Zeldar 3 Alabama Missouri Clemson =================== =========================================================================================== 7 14 3 0 0 3 3 3 0 0 2 /14 ================================================ ``` If you have yet to vote, please note that four teams on the list are playing each other so at least two on the list will lose! ---
**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-14-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/674681/8 "2013-11-25T20:58:09Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > **RetroVertigo** , in your dreams. Very much. But nobody has believed all year (not that they had a reason), so I’d rather remain the darkhorse at thos point. Mizzou has a couple things going for it against aTm: The offense can score, and is most likely the most balanced that they will face all year. The average height of the WRs is something like 6’5", and they have a real nice run game. The Aggies defense can be called pourous at best, so if anyone can keep up with JF, hopefully its the Tigers. The D-Line is superb. Mizzou has two probable 1st round picks coming off the edges, and rotates 6-8 deep to keep everyone fresh. LSU gave a blueprint on how to keep Manziel contained, and allowing him to try and beat you with arm from the pocket. It will be a close game, and if I didn’t have my homer glasses on it wouldbe a real toss-up. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-14-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/674681/9 "2013-11-25T22:15:54Z")
> [@RetroVertigo](#): > > But nobody has believed all year. My pick for coach of the year is Gus Mahlzahn, but Gary Pinkel is a very close second. ---
**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-14-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/674681/10 "2013-11-25T22:56:49Z")
> [@armedmonkey](#): > > My pick for coach of the year is Gus Mahlzahn, but Gary Pinkel is a very close second. Agreed. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-14-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/674681/11 "2013-11-26T00:06:55Z")
After 10 voters: ```auto ================================================ Alabama Florida St. Ohio St. Auburn Missouri Clemson Stanford Baylor South Carolina =========================================================================================== armedmonkey 2 Alabama Clemson Death of Rats 2 Alabama Clemson DMC 3 Auburn Missouri South Carolina LuckyNumber85 2 Auburn South Carolina Munch 1 Missouri Nauplius 3 Auburn Missouri South Carolina RetroVertigo 2 Auburn South Carolina Snowboarder Bo 1 Alabama USCDiver 3 Auburn Missouri Clemson Zeldar 3 Alabama Missouri Clemson =================== =========================================================================================== 10 22 4 0 0 5 5 4 0 0 4 /22 ================================================ ``` ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-14-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/674681/12 "2013-11-26T03:53:04Z")
> [@RetroVertigo](#): > > It will be a close game, and if I didn’t have my homer glasses on it wouldbe a real toss-up. You must not have read my first post in the thread. The game _is_ a toss-up against A&M. I think A&M is the better offense, but LSU just handed you a blueprint on how to beat Manziel and you have the talent (I think) to execute it. Hence the hesitation to call the game. But then beating 'Bama? No way. You ain’t got it for the Tide. They’re just as big/fast, better coached, and not reliant on one key guy for their offense. Ain’t no blueprint for beating those guys (so far anyway - Auburn could pull the upset but they’ve got the emotional up of a rivalry working for them). Hell, even assuming the Winston thing works itself out, FSU will need all they’ve got to beat Alabama and we are, like it or not (and it’s a surprise to me - and I think Jimbo Fisher - this is the way we were supposed to play _next_ year), truly one of the two best teams in the country. Mizzou looks a lot like Clemson to me and you see what we did to them. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-14-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/674681/13 "2013-11-26T05:20:50Z")
I’ve got Auburn, Missouri, and Clemson to lose this week. Cuz ROLL TIDE! ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-14-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/674681/14 "2013-11-26T13:48:43Z")
Here’s how it’s shaping up with 15 Voters: ```auto ================================================ Alabama Florida St. Ohio St. Auburn Missouri Clemson Stanford Baylor South Carolina =========================================================================================== armedmonkey 2 Alabama Clemson Death of Rats 2 Alabama Clemson DMC 3 Auburn Missouri South Carolina Duckster 2 Auburn Clemson LuckyNumber85 2 Auburn South Carolina Munch 1 Missouri Nauplius 3 Auburn Missouri South Carolina Oakminster 3 Auburn Missouri Clemson Oredigger77 2 Alabama Clemson Quintas 1 South Carolina RetroVertigo 2 Auburn South Carolina Snowboarder Bo 1 Alabama USCDiver 3 Auburn Missouri Clemson Wolverine 3 Auburn Missouri South Carolina Zeldar 3 Alabama Missouri Clemson =================== =========================================================================================== 15 33 5 0 0 8 7 7 0 0 6 /33 ================================================ ``` ---
**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-14-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/674681/15 "2013-11-26T15:02:16Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > You must not have read my first post in the thread. The game _is_ a toss-up against A&M. I think A&M is the better offense, but LSU just handed you a blueprint on how to beat Manziel and you have the talent (I think) to execute it. Hence the hesitation to call the game. > > But then beating 'Bama? No way. You ain’t got it for the Tide. They’re just as big/fast, better coached, and not reliant on one key guy for their offense. Ain’t no blueprint for beating those guys (so far anyway - Auburn could pull the upset but they’ve got the emotional up of a rivalry working for them). > > Hell, even assuming the Winston thing works itself out, FSU will need all they’ve got to beat Alabama and we are, like it or not (and it’s a surprise to me - and I think Jimbo Fisher - this is the way we were supposed to play _next_ year), truly one of the two best teams in the country. Mizzou looks a lot like Clemson to me and you see what we did to them. It was said tongue-in-cheek (mostly). Crazier things have happened, just not too often in college football. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-14-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/674681/16 "2013-11-26T15:06:48Z")
> [@RetroVertigo](#): > > It was said tongue-in-cheek (mostly). Crazier things have happened, just not too often in college football. I kinda figured, hence my original “in your dreams”. BTW, I decided to believe. Auburn and South Carolina go down, Mizz pulls it off. Oh crap! I picked the wrong box. Zeldar, can you switch my pick from Clemson to SC? ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-14-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/674681/17 "2013-11-26T15:14:34Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > BTW, I decided to believe. Auburn and South Carolina go down, Mizz pulls it off. > > Oh crap! I picked the wrong box. Zeldar, can you switch my pick from Clemson to SC? If you’re serious (please confirm) I can “fix” your votes in the array. I have to anyway because of the funky “closing date” I selected. So the poll’s results will be a “guideline” at best. Just let me know you weren’t kidding and it shall be done, a la Yul Brynner! ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-14-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/674681/18 "2013-11-26T15:49:03Z")
I say Auburn, South Carolina and Missouri go down. But they won’t fall as far in the standings as they should. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-14-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/674681/19 "2013-11-26T19:42:55Z")
> [@Zeldar](#): > > If you’re serious (please confirm) I can “fix” your votes in the array. I have to anyway because of the funky “closing date” I selected. So the poll’s results will be a “guideline” at best. > > Just let me know you weren’t kidding and it shall be done, a la Yul Brynner! Not kidding at all. I was thinking “Clemson will win that one”, so I picked Clemson. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-14-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/674681/20 "2013-11-26T20:32:13Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > Not kidding at all. I was thinking “Clemson will win that one”, so I picked Clemson. :smack: [So Let it be Written .](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O8gTIr4lys) ```auto ================================================ Alabama Florida St. Ohio St. Auburn Missouri Clemson Stanford Baylor South Carolina =========================================================================================== armedmonkey 2 Alabama Clemson astorian 3 Auburn Missouri South Carolina Death of Rats 2 Alabama Clemson DMC 3 Auburn Missouri South Carolina Duckster 2 Auburn Clemson LuckyNumber85 2 Auburn South Carolina Munch 1 Missouri Nauplius 3 Auburn Missouri South Carolina Oakminster 3 Auburn Missouri Clemson Oredigger77 2 Alabama Clemson Quintas 1 South Carolina Really Not All That Bright 1 Auburn RetroVertigo 2 Auburn South Carolina Snowboarder Bo 1 Alabama USCDiver 3 Auburn Missouri Clemson Wolverine 3 Auburn Missouri South Carolina Zakalwe 2 Auburn (fixed) (South Carolina) Zeldar 3 Alabama Missouri Clemson =================== =========================================================================================== 18 39 5 0 0 11 8 7 0 0 8 /39 ================================================ ``` [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-14-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/674681.md?page=2)