# Week 15 CFB -- Which AP Top Ten team(s) will lose? **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [December 1, 2013, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-15-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/675225 "2013-12-01T18:53:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-15-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/675225/1 "2013-12-01T18:53:44Z")
AP Top 25: Week 15 Records through Sat Nov 30, 2013 1. Florida St. 2. Ohio St. 3. Auburn 4. Alabama (1dle) 5. Missouri 6. Oklahoma St. 7. Stanford 8. South Carolina (idle) 9. Baylor 10. Michigan St. 11. Arizona St. 12. Oregon (idle) 13. Clemson (idle) 14. LSU (idle) 15. UCF 16. Northern Illinois 17. UCLA (idle) 18. Oklahoma 19. Louisville 20. Duke 21. Wisconsin (idle) 22. Texas A&M (idle) 23. Texas 24. Fresno St. (idle) 25. Georgia (idle) ================================ ```auto ================================ 2013 NCAA Division I-A Football Schedule - Week 15 Saturday, December 7 12:00 PM (18) Oklahoma at (6) Oklahoma State 3:30 PM (23) Texas at (9) Baylor 4:00 PM (5) Missouri vs. (3) Auburn 7:45 PM (7) Stanford at (11) Arizona State 8:00 PM (20) Duke vs. (1) Florida State 8:17 PM (2) Ohio State vs. (10) Michigan State ================================ ``` Poll coming… ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-15-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/675225/2 "2013-12-01T19:05:17Z")
I’m still in shock after the traumatic events of yesterday. Will get back to this later in the week. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-15-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/675225/3 "2013-12-01T20:12:06Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > I’m still in shock after the traumatic events of yesterday. Will get back to this later in the week. I’m also in shock, but from the other side of the coin. I’ll go ahead and post my picks: Missouri and Ohio State. Part of that may just be because I’m an Auburn fan, but honestly, I think I’d pick the same way even if I wasn’t as ridiculously biased as I actually am. I don’t think Missouri can stop Auburn’s rushing attack and I just don’t buy Ohio State as a national championship contender. They did not impress me yesterday. At all. And **Oak** , I may be one of the few Auburn fans that actually likes Alabama (with a one week exception, of course), so take this in the good will it’s intended to be. Y’all really need to work on your special teams. It’s your Achilles’s heel, and it’s been that way all season. The Tide is so good that they’ve been able to neglect them, but special teams bit you on the ass yesterday. ---
**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-15-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/675225/4 "2013-12-01T22:38:48Z")
> [@armedmonkey](#): > > Part of that may just be because I’m an Auburn fan, but honestly, I think I’d pick the same way even if I wasn’t as ridiculously biased as I actually am. I don’t think Missouri can stop Auburn’s rushing attack and I just don’t buy Ohio State as a national championship contender. They did not impress me yesterday. At all. I’m picking Mizzou (other than being an unabashed homer) for the opposite reason. I don’t think Auburn can stop Mizzou’s passing attack. I am also picking Ohio St. to lose because they did not impress me at all yesterday. If any other situation at the moment existed I’d be rooting for tOSU, but I need them to lose for Mizzou to have a shot at the BCS Championship Game. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-15-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/675225/5 "2013-12-01T23:37:19Z")
Auburn and Stanford to lose. Sorry Tigers, but you’ve survived the last two games on miracle plays. That sort of run ends sooner or later. tOSU will beat Michigan St (it won’t be pretty, but it will be effective). Stanford is a team that has been overrated all season and Az St is playing up. FSU will play Duke close in the 1 and 2Q (and yes, I said that correctly), but get control after that for a pull-up win. None of the Big12 games really matter\*, but Ok State and Baylor both get the win in relatively easy fashion. \*Seriously guys, beg/borrow/steal 12 teams and have a damn Conference Championship like the real Conferences. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-15-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/675225/6 "2013-12-02T00:16:17Z")
With all due respect, **Zakalwe** , in the last three weeks you are one for six in your picks. That’s worse than Lee Corso! ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-15-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/675225/7 "2013-12-02T04:56:58Z")
> [@armedmonkey](#): > > With all due respect, **Zakalwe** , in the last three weeks you are one for six in your picks. That’s worse than Lee Corso! 😉 I will say that with Clemson last week, I went heart not head. My bad. I also plead guilty on not believing in Mizzou the week before, so I’m fixing that now! Vegas agrees with me on the Stanford game, so I’m not exactly way out on a limb with this week’s picks. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-15-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/675225/8 "2013-12-02T11:55:51Z")
Early voting: ```auto ====================================================================== Florida St. Ohio St. Auburn Missouri Oklahoma St. Stanford Baylor Michigan St. ===================================================================================== armedmonkey 2 Ohio St. Missouri furt 2 Ohio St. Auburn Oredigger77 4 Auburn Oklahoma St. Baylor Michigan St. RetroVertigo 2 Ohio St. Auburn USCDiver 3 Ohio St. Missouri Baylor Zakalwe 2 Auburn Stanford zamboniracer 3 Missouri Baylor Michigan St. ======================== ===================================================================================== 7 18 0 4 4 3 1 1 3 2 /18 ====================================================================== ``` ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-15-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/675225/9 "2013-12-02T16:09:16Z")
With only three teams playing this week for the chance to be bowl eligible I didn’t want to build another thread/poll for them. But if it’s worth a little discussion or comment here they are: From [http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/jerry-palm/24043695/bowl-eligible-teams](http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/jerry-palm/24043695/bowl-eligible-teams) ```auto &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& Teams that need one more win (3) Saturday, December 7 SMU (5-6) 12:00 PM (15) UCF at Southern Methodist Rutgers (5-6) 7:30 PM South Florida at Rutgers South Alabama (5-6) 8:00 PM Louisiana-Lafayette at South Alabama &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& ``` ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-15-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/675225/10 "2013-12-02T17:50:22Z")
> [@Zeldar](#): > > Early voting: Feel free to ban me from these threads, but I just realized that I forgot to mark Michigan St (_someone_ has to lose that game). I’ve gotta stop filling out the poll so quickly. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-15-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/675225/11 "2013-12-02T22:17:42Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > Feel free to ban me from these threads, but I just realized that I forgot to mark Michigan St (_someone_ has to lose that game). I’ve gotta stop filling out the poll so quickly. Not to worry. ```auto ====================================================================== Florida St. Ohio St. Auburn Missouri Oklahoma St. Stanford Baylor Michigan St. ===================================================================================== armedmonkey 2 Ohio St. Missouri Death of Rats 2 Auburn Michigan St. furt 2 Ohio St. Auburn LuckyNumber85 3 Ohio St. Auburn Stanford Nauplius 3 Missouri Stanford Michigan St. Oredigger77 4 Auburn Oklahoma St. Baylor Michigan St. Procrustus 1 Auburn RetroVertigo 2 Ohio St. Auburn Snowboarder Bo 3 Missouri Stanford Michigan St. USCDiver 3 Ohio St. Missouri Baylor Wolverine 3 Auburn Oklahoma St. Michigan St. Zakalwe (3) Auburn Stanford (Michigan St.) zamboniracer 3 Missouri Baylor Michigan St. Zeldar 3 Ohio St. Missouri Stanford ======================== ===================================================================================== 14 37 0 6 8 6 2 5 3 (7) /37 ====================================================================== ``` ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2013, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-15-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/675225/12 "2013-12-04T13:14:15Z")
After 16 Voters: ```auto ====================================================================== Florida St. Ohio St. Auburn Missouri Oklahoma St. Stanford Baylor Michigan St. ===================================================================================== armedmonkey 2 Ohio St. Missouri Death of Rats 2 Auburn Michigan St. Duckster 2 Ohio St. Auburn furt 2 Ohio St. Auburn Labrador Deceiver 2 Ohio St. Auburn LuckyNumber85 3 Ohio St. Auburn Stanford Nauplius 3 Missouri Stanford Michigan St. Oredigger77 4 Auburn Oklahoma St. Baylor Michigan St. Procrustus 1 Auburn RetroVertigo 2 Ohio St. Auburn Snowboarder Bo 3 Missouri Stanford Michigan St. USCDiver 3 Ohio St. Missouri Baylor Wolverine 3 Auburn Oklahoma St. Michigan St. Zakalwe (3) Auburn Stanford (Michigan St.) zamboniracer 3 Missouri Baylor Michigan St. Zeldar 3 Ohio St. Missouri Stanford ======================== ===================================================================================== 16 41 0 8 10 6 2 5 3 (7) /41 ====================================================================== ``` ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2013, 8:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-15-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/675225/13 "2013-12-06T08:34:00Z")
I went with Baylor, Missouri, Stanford, and Michigan State. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2013, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-15-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/675225/14 "2013-12-06T11:42:12Z")
The poll shows 1 person picked Duke to beat FSU, but that doesn’t show up on the spreadsheet. Who picked Duke? ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2013, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-15-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/675225/15 "2013-12-06T11:53:56Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > The poll shows 1 person picked Duke to beat FSU, but that doesn’t show up on the spreadsheet. Who picked Duke? Folacin. If you click on one of the numbers of votes in the poll, you can see the results (including who voted for what). ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2013, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-15-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/675225/16 "2013-12-06T12:57:42Z")
Right at six hours left before the poll closes. ```auto ====================================================================== Florida St. Ohio St. Auburn Missouri Oklahoma St. Stanford Baylor Michigan St. ===================================================================================== armedmonkey 2 Ohio St. Missouri Death of Rats 2 Auburn Michigan St. DMC 3 Auburn Oklahoma St. Michigan St. Duckster 2 Ohio St. Auburn Folacin 3 Florida St. Ohio St. Auburn furt 2 Ohio St. Auburn Labrador Deceiver 2 Ohio St. Auburn LuckyNumber85 3 Ohio St. Auburn Stanford Nauplius 3 Missouri Stanford Michigan St. Oakminster 4 Missouri Stanford Baylor Michigan St. Oredigger77 4 Auburn Oklahoma St. Baylor Michigan St. Procrustus 1 Auburn RetroVertigo 2 Ohio St. Auburn Snowboarder Bo 3 Missouri Stanford Michigan St. USCDiver 3 Ohio St. Missouri Baylor Wolverine 3 Auburn Oklahoma St. Michigan St. Zakalwe (3) Auburn Stanford (Michigan St.) zamboniracer 3 Missouri Baylor Michigan St. Zeldar 3 Ohio St. Missouri Stanford ======================== ===================================================================================== 19 51 1 9 12 7 3 6 4 (9) /51 ====================================================================== ``` ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2013, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-15-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/675225/17 "2013-12-06T19:09:21Z")
Here’s the final array: ```auto ====================================================================== Florida St. Ohio St. Auburn Missouri Oklahoma St. Stanford Baylor Michigan St. ===================================================================================== armedmonkey 2 Ohio St. Missouri Death of Rats 2 Auburn Michigan St. DMC 3 Auburn Oklahoma St. Michigan St. Duckster 2 Ohio St. Auburn Folacin 3 Florida St. Ohio St. Auburn furt 2 Ohio St. Auburn Labrador Deceiver 2 Ohio St. Auburn LuckyNumber85 3 Ohio St. Auburn Stanford Nauplius 3 Missouri Stanford Michigan St. Oakminster 4 Missouri Stanford Baylor Michigan St. Oredigger77 4 Auburn Oklahoma St. Baylor Michigan St. Procrustus 1 Auburn RetroVertigo 2 Ohio St. Auburn Snowboarder Bo 3 Missouri Stanford Michigan St. tonyfop 3 Ohio St. Missouri Stanford USCDiver 3 Ohio St. Missouri Baylor Wolverine 3 Auburn Oklahoma St. Michigan St. Zakalwe (3) Auburn Stanford (Michigan St.) zamboniracer 3 Missouri Baylor Michigan St. Zeldar 3 Ohio St. Missouri Stanford ======================== ===================================================================================== 20 54 1 10 12 8 3 7 4 (9) /54 ====================================================================== ``` ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2013, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-15-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/675225/18 "2013-12-07T20:45:06Z")
> [@armedmonkey](#): > > With all due respect, **Zakalwe** , in the last three weeks you are one for six in your picks. That’s worse than Lee Corso! Well, Lee and I are both 0-fer so far today. Oklahoma takes out OkSt. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2013, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-15-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/675225/19 "2013-12-07T23:11:08Z")
> [@armedmonkey](#): > > Part of that may just be because I’m an Auburn fan, but honestly, I think I’d pick the same way even if I wasn’t as ridiculously biased as I actually am. I don’t think Missouri can stop Auburn’s rushing attack. > [@RetroVertigo](#): > > I’m picking Mizzou (other than being an unabashed homer) for the opposite reason. I don’t think Auburn can stop Mizzou’s passing attack. Judging by the first half, I think we’re _both_ right. Auburn, I think, has already has already exceded the most rushing yards allowed by Missouri in a game this season. And it’s only halftime! On the flip side, Mizzou’s passing attack is gashing us when y’all need it to and there is only a one point difference. AU gets the ball first in the second half. _Damn_, this is a good game. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2013, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-15-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/675225/20 "2013-12-08T00:09:54Z")
This thing has become a pure shootout. Where the heck are the defenses? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-15-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/675225.md?page=2)