# Week 2 CFB -- Which AP Top 25 team(s) will lose?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-2-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/697282>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 2, 2014, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-2-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/697282 "2014-09-02T19:16:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
**Page:** 2

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-2-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/697282/21 "2014-09-04T15:56:07Z")

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Here’s a first pass to check for mistakes. If I need to modify your vote(s) please say so. (See Posts #15-16 for an example.)

```auto

                                    ====================================================================================
                                    Bama Oreg Aub MichSt OhioSt TexA&M LSU Stan USC Missi NotDam SoCar Misso 

armedmonkey (3)2 MichSt USC ( )
astorian 4 Oreg Stan Missi NotDam 
BobLibDem 8 Bama Oreg Aub TexA&M LSU NotDam SoCar Misso
bump 3 MichSt USC Misso
jsc1953 2 MichSt Stan 
Nauplius 3 Oreg OhioSt USC
Oakminster 3 Oreg USC SoCar
RetroVertigo 3 MichSt USC SoCar
The Universe Lashes Out 3 MichSt USC Misso
Typo Negative 1 NotDam
Wolverine 3 MichSt Stan NotDam
Zakalwe 2 MichSt Stan
Zeldar 5 MichSt OhioSt USC NotDam Misso
Zyanthia 2 MichSt USC
                                    ===================================================================================== 
                                    Bama Oreg Aub MichSt OhioSt TexA&M LSU Stan USC Missi NotDam SoCar Misso
   14 (45)44 1 4 1 9 2 1 1 4 8 1 5 (4) 3 4 /(45)44 

```

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-2-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/697282/22 "2014-09-04T16:19:23Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
>
> Sorry, but I can’t bring myself to pick an SEC team not to lose an out of conference game nor can I pick a Big Ten team to lose an out of conference game. I may finish last every week, but at least when I do have a good week I’ll finish way out in front.

If I remember last season correctly, and I think I do (I did win :D), you were the only one in the negative numbers at the end of it. No offense, but you finished dead last and you never had a good week.

I do admire how you staunchly stick by your home conference, though. I kinda do the same except, well, my home conference is the SEC. War Eagle.

And **Oak** , you may have a head start, but I’m coming for you. Not this week, because this week is boring (though I should gain a point on the Ducks), but watch your rear view mirror.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-2-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/697282/23 "2014-09-04T21:01:09Z")

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> [@Zeldar](#):
>
> Glad to. That goes for anybody who wants a do-over on votes. It’s not like we’re paying for the privilege!
> 
> Yo, **armedmonkey** , you interested in maintaining that week-to-week accounting you did last year? 😉

Please delete my vote for South Carolina. I misread the list, thought they were playing Clemson.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-2-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/697282/24 "2014-09-04T21:03:38Z")

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> [@armedmonkey](#):
>
> And **Oak** , you may have a head start, but I’m coming for you. Not this week, because this week is boring (though I should gain a point on the Ducks), but watch your rear view mirror.

I’m not the guy you need to worry about. Think I’ve only won the pickem league once, and that year was pretty close.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-2-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/697282/25 "2014-09-04T21:20:04Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
>
> Please delete my vote for South Carolina. I misread the list, thought they were playing Clemson.

So let it be unwritten!

While I’m at it let me note that **Typo Negative** and **BobLibDem** are in danger of getting a **-1** for not picking a loser in the USC and/or Oregon games.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-2-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/697282/26 "2014-09-04T21:56:14Z")

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> [@armedmonkey](#):
>
> If I remember last season correctly, and I think I do (I did win :D), you were the only one in the negative numbers at the end of it. No offense, but you finished dead last and you never had a good week.
> 
> I do admire how you staunchly stick by your home conference, though. I kinda do the same except, well, my home conference is the SEC. War Eagle.
> 
> And **Oak** , you may have a head start, but I’m coming for you. Not this week, because this week is boring (though I should gain a point on the Ducks), but watch your rear view mirror.

Hey, when I do win this thing it will be by a country mile.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2014, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-2-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/697282/27 "2014-09-05T15:24:05Z")

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bump. One more day to play.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2014, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-2-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/697282/28 "2014-09-06T16:02:24Z")

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> [@Zeldar](#):
>
> Even though the poll says
> 
> > [@](#):
> >
> > This poll will close on 09-06-2014 at 02:21 PM
> 
> I will stop keeping track of any late votes after 11:00 AM CDT (Noon EDT) Saturday.

```auto

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

                                           >>> >>> <<< <<<
                                    ====================================================================================
                                    Bama Oreg Aub MichSt OhioSt TexA&M LSU Stan USC Missi NotDam SoCar Misso 

armedmonkey (3)2 MichSt USC ( )
astorian 4 Oreg Stan Missi NotDam 
BobLibDem 8 Bama Oreg Aub TexA&M LSU NotDam SoCar Misso
bump 3 MichSt USC Misso
Doctor Who 2 Oreg USC
jsc1953 2 MichSt Stan 
Nauplius 3 Oreg OhioSt USC
Oakminster (3)2 Oreg USC ( )
Oredigger77 2 MichSt USC 
RetroVertigo 3 MichSt USC SoCar
The Universe Lashes Out 3 MichSt USC Misso
tonyfop 3 MichSt OhioSt Stan
Typo Negative 1 NotDam
Wolverine 3 MichSt Stan NotDam
Zakalwe 2 MichSt Stan
Zeldar 5 MichSt OhioSt USC NotDam Misso
Zyanthia 2 MichSt USC
                                    ===================================================================================== 
                                    Bama Oreg Aub MichSt OhioSt TexA&M LSU Stan USC Missi NotDam SoCar Misso
   17 (52)50 1 5 1 11 3 1 1 5 10 1 5 (4) 2 4 /(52)50

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

```

Good luck and have fun with the games!

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2014, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-2-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/697282/29 "2014-09-06T16:53:42Z")

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FYI, **BobLibDem** and **Typo Negative** start -1 and -2 respectively (failed to take one or both Top25 matchups).

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2014, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-2-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/697282/30 "2014-09-06T19:28:45Z")

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Nice late TD, Nebraska. Good thing the ref missed the HUGE block in the back that would have called it back.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2014, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-2-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/697282/31 "2014-09-07T04:54:24Z")

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The Texas A&M game is still being played at the moment, but here are the results anyway:

```auto

[+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

                                           >>> >>> <<< <<<
                                      W W W L L ? W L W W W W W
                                    ====================================================================================
                                    Bama Oreg Aub MichSt OhioSt TexA&M LSU Stan USC Missi NotDam SoCar Misso 

armedmonkey (3)2 MichSt USC ( )
astorian 4 Oreg Stan Missi NotDam 
BobLibDem 8 Bama Oreg Aub TexA&M LSU NotDam SoCar Misso
bump 3 MichSt USC Misso
Doctor Who 2 Oreg USC
excavating (for a mind) 3 MichSt USC NotDam
jsc1953 2 MichSt Stan 
Nauplius 3 Oreg OhioSt USC
Oakminster (3)2 Oreg USC ( )
Oredigger77 2 MichSt USC 
RetroVertigo 3 MichSt USC SoCar
The Universe Lashes Out 3 MichSt USC Misso
tonyfop 3 MichSt OhioSt Stan
Typo Negative 1 NotDam
Wolverine 3 MichSt Stan NotDam
Zakalwe 2 MichSt Stan
Zeldar 5 MichSt OhioSt USC NotDam Misso
Zyanthia 2 MichSt USC
                                    ===================================================================================== 
                                    Bama Oreg Aub MichSt OhioSt TexA&M LSU Stan USC Missi NotDam SoCar Misso
   18 (55)53 1 5 1 12 3 1 1 5 11 1 6 (4) 2 4 /(55)53

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

                                           >>> >>> <<< <<<
                                      W W W L L ? W L W W W W W
                                    ====================================================================================
                                    Bama Oreg Aub MichSt OhioSt TexA&M LSU Stan USC Missi NotDam SoCar Misso 

armedmonkey (3)2 0 +1 -1 ( )
astorian 4 -2 -1 +1 -1 -1   
BobLibDem 8 -8 -1 -1 -1 TexA&M -1 -1 -1 -1 
bump 3 -1 +1 -1 -1 
Doctor Who 2 -2 -1 -1 
excavating (for a mind) 3 -1 +1 -1 -1  
jsc1953 2 +2 +1 +1  
Nauplius 3 -1 -1 +1 -1 
Oakminster (3)2 -2 -1 -1 ( )
Oredigger77 2 0 +1 -1  
RetroVertigo 3 -1 +1 -1 -1 
The Universe Lashes Out 3 -1 +1 -1 -1 
tonyfop 3 +3 +1 +1 +1 
Typo Negative 1 -1 -1  
Wolverine 3 +1 +1 +1 -1  
Zakalwe 2 +2 +1 +1 
Zeldar 5 -1 +1 +1 -1 -1 -1 
Zyanthia 2 0 +1 -1 
                                    ===================================================================================== 
                                    Bama Oreg Aub MichSt OhioSt TexA&M LSU Stan USC Missi NotDam SoCar Misso
   18 (55)53 1 5 1 12 3 1 1 5 11 1 6 (4) 2 4 /(55)53

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

                                           >>> >>> <<< <<<
                                      W W W L L ? W L W W W W W
                                    ====================================================================================
                                    Bama Oreg Aub MichSt OhioSt TexA&M LSU Stan USC Missi NotDam SoCar Misso 

tonyfop 3 +3 +1 +1 +1 

jsc1953 2 +2 +1 +1  
Zakalwe 2 +2 +1 +1 

Wolverine 3 +1 +1 +1 -1  

armedmonkey (3)2 0 +1 -1 ( )
Oredigger77 2 0 +1 -1  
Zyanthia 2 0 +1 -1 

Typo Negative 1 -1 -1  

bump 3 -1 +1 -1 -1 
excavating (for a mind) 3 -1 +1 -1 -1  
Nauplius 3 -1 -1 +1 -1 
RetroVertigo 3 -1 +1 -1 -1 
The Universe Lashes Out 3 -1 +1 -1 -1 

Zeldar 5 -1 +1 +1 -1 -1 -1 

Doctor Who 2 -2 -1 -1 
Oakminster (3)2 -2 -1 -1 ( )

astorian 4 -2 -1 +1 -1 -1  

BobLibDem 8 -8 -1 -1 -1 TexA&M -1 -1 -1 -1 

                                    ===================================================================================== 
                                    Bama Oreg Aub MichSt OhioSt TexA&M LSU Stan USC Missi NotDam SoCar Misso
   18 (55)53 1 5 1 12 3 1 1 5 11 1 6 (4) 2 4 /(55)53

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

```

Sorry, but I forgot to dock the two players for not picking in the games where Top 25 teams played each other.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2014, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-2-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/697282/32 "2014-09-07T05:06:54Z")

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Here’s a fix. Hopefully that’s all it needs. Let me know if it’s not the only fix required.

And thanks for playing!

```auto

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

                                           >>> >>> <<< <<<
                                      W W W L L ? W L W W W W W
                                    ====================================================================================
                                    Bama Oreg Aub MichSt OhioSt TexA&M LSU Stan USC Missi NotDam SoCar Misso 

tonyfop 3 +3 +1 +1 +1 

jsc1953 2 +2 +1 +1  
Zakalwe 2 +2 +1 +1 

Wolverine 3 +1 +1 +1 -1  

armedmonkey (3)2 0 +1 -1 ( )
Oredigger77 2 0 +1 -1  
Zyanthia 2 0 +1 -1 
bump 3 -1 +1 -1 -1 
excavating (for a mind) 3 -1 +1 -1 -1  
Nauplius 3 -1 -1 +1 -1 
RetroVertigo 3 -1 +1 -1 -1 
The Universe Lashes Out 3 -1 +1 -1 -1 

Zeldar 5 -1 +1 +1 -1 -1 -1 

Doctor Who 2 -2 -1 -1 
Oakminster (3)2 -2 -1 -1 ( )

astorian 4 -2 -1 +1 -1 -1  

Typo Negative 1 -3 (-1) () (-1) () -1  

BobLibDem 8 -9 -1 -1 -1 TexA&M -1 (-1) () -1 -1 -1 
                                    ===================================================================================== 
                                    Bama Oreg Aub MichSt OhioSt TexA&M LSU Stan USC Missi NotDam SoCar Misso
   18 (55)53 1 5 1 12 3 1 1 5 11 1 6 (4) 2 4 /(55)53

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

```

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2014, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-2-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/697282/33 "2014-09-07T11:50:11Z")

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And here are the season standings…lots of movement this week. That -1 scoring can really impact things. I can also see that I’m going to need a bigger twinkie to keep track of **Bob** ’s score.

```auto

**Name Total Points	Week 1 Week2**
tonyfop 3 0 3
Zakalwe 3 1 2
Frosted Glass 2 2 0
Oakminster 2 4 -2
Snupzilla 2 2 0
USCDiver 2 2 0
Wolverine 2 1 1
doverpro 1 1 0
Mince 1 1 0
Nauplius 1 2 -1
Really Not All That Bright 1 1 0
Snowboarder Bo 1 1 0
armedmonkey 0 0 0
basset hound 0 0 0
Doctor Who 0 2 -2
JohnT 0 0 0
Oredigger77 0 0 0
Sterling Archer 0 0 0
excavating (for a mind) -1 0 -1
jsc1953 -1 -3 2
LonghornDave -1 -1 0
Pai325 -1 -1 0
RetroVertigo -1 0 -1
The Universe Lashes Out -1 0 -1
Zeldar -1 0 -1
Zyanthia -1 -1 0
astorian -2 0 -2
bump -2 -1 -1
susan -4 -4 0
Typo Negative -6 -3 -3
BobLibDem -14 -5 -9

```

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2014, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-2-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/697282/34 "2014-09-07T18:07:00Z")

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You can take me off–it’s not looking like I’m going to have time to play.

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2014, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-2-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/697282/35 "2014-09-07T18:24:13Z")

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> [@susan](#):
>
> You can take me off–it’s not looking like I’m going to have time to play.

Should have kept quiet! At this rate -4 looks like it could turn out to be a winning score!!! 😃

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