# Week 2 CFB -- Which AP Top 25 team(s) will lose? **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 8, 2015, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-2-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/730370 "2015-09-08T19:29:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2015, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-2-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/730370/1 "2015-09-08T19:29:07Z")
> **[NCAAF College Football Scores & Game Results - Yahoo Sports](https://sports.yahoo.com/college-football/scoreboard/)** > > Sports News, Scores, Fantasy Games NCAAF Scores & Schedule Top 25 FBS Weeks: 2 Friday, September 11 9:00 PM EDT ESP2 Utah St. @ Utah (24) Saturday, September 12 12:00 PM EDT SECN Jacksonville St. @ (6) Auburn 3:30 PM EDT CBS (10) Georgia @ Vanderbilt 6:00 PM EDT ESPN (19) Oklahoma @ (23) Tennessee \*\*\* 11:30 AM EDT ESPN South Florida @ (11) Florida St. 12:30 PM EDT ESP3 Appalachian St. @ (12) Clemson 3:30 PM EDT ESP2 Fresno St. @ (17) Mississippi 3:30 PM EDT BTN, BTN2 Hawaii @ (1) Ohio St. 3:30 PM EDT ABC (9) Notre Dame @ Virginia 3:30 PM EDT ESP3 Tulane @ (15) Georgia Tech 3:30 PM EDT FS1 S.F. Austin @ (3) TCU 4:00 PM EDT SECN Toledo @ (18) Arkansas 4:00 PM EDT SECN Middle Tenn. St. @ (2) Alabama 7:00 PM EDT ESP3 (21) Missouri @ Arkansas St. 7:00 PM EDT ESPU Ball St. @ Texas A&M (16) 7:00 PM EDT CBSS (22) Arizona @ Nevada 7:30 PM EDT FSN Lamar @ (4) Baylor 8:00 PM EDT ABC (7) Oregon @ (5) Michigan St. \*\*\* 8:00 PM EDT PACN Idaho @ (8) USC 9:15 PM EDT ESPN (14) LSU @ (25) Mississippi St. \*\*\* 10:15 PM EDT ESP2 (20) Boise St. @ BYU 10:30 PM EDT CBSS (13) UCLA @ UNLV ============================================== > **[NCAA College Football Rankings: AP Top 25 Football Poll | AP News](https://apnews.com/hub/ap-top-25-college-football-poll)** > > Georgia, Michigan, TCU and Ohio State were the top four in the final Associated Press college football poll of the regular season. College Football The AP Top 25 Poll ```auto 1 Ohio State Big Ten Record: 1-0 2 Alabama SEC Record: 1-0 3 TCU Big 12 Record: 1-0 4 Baylor Big 12 Record: 1-0 5 Michigan State Big Ten Record: 1-0 ### 6 Auburn SEC Record: 1-0 7 Oregon Pac-12 Record: 1-0 ### 8 USC Pac-12 Record: 1-0 9 Notre Dame Division I FBS Independents Record: 1-0 10 Georgia SEC Record: 1-0 11 Florida State ACC Record: 1-0 12 Clemson ACC Record: 1-0 13 UCLA Pac-12 Record: 1-0 14 LSU SEC Record: 0-0 &&& 15 Georgia Tech ACC Record: 1-0 16 Texas A&M SEC Record: 1-0 17 Mississippi SEC Record: 1-0 18 Arkansas SEC Record: 1-0 19 Oklahoma Big 12 Record: 1-0 $$$ 20 Boise State Mountain West Record: 1-0 21 Missouri SEC Record: 1-0 22 Arizona Pac-12 Record: 1-0 23 Tennessee SEC Record: 1-0 $$$ 24 Utah Pac-12 Record: 1-0 25 Mississippi State SEC Record: 1-0 &&& ``` \*\* ###, &&&, $$$ = Two Top 25 teams are playing each other\*\* You must pick one to comply with these rules: * * * Scoring for this week’s poll is as follows: 1. Pick a team to LOSE and they LOSE – **+1 point** 2. Pick a team to LOSE and they WIN – **-1 point** 3. Fail to pick a LOSER in a game involving two Top 25 teams-- **-1 point** (two Top 25 teams playing – one must lose) 4. Pick both teams to LOSE in a game involving two Top 25 teams-- **-1 point** (two Top 25 teams playing – one must lose) * * * Last WEEK’s thread/poll: > **[Week 1 CFB -- Which BCS Top 25 team(s) will LOSE?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=761217)** > > For LAST YEAR’s Opening Week thread/poll see Week 1 CFB – Which BCS Top 25 team(s) will lose? 07-26-2014, 08:13 AM ================================= THIS YEAR’s Opening Week The College Football 2015 Opening Week Top 25 teams’ schedule is shown... Week 1 CFB – Which BCS Top 25 team(s) will LOSE? 07-03-2015, 09:35 AM Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 25 ========================= Last YEAR Same WEEK’s thread/poll: > **[Week 2 CFB -- Which AP Top 25 team(s) will lose?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=732901)** > > Please see Week 1 CFB – Which BCS Top 25 team(s) will lose? — \<\< corrected poll \>\> – especially starting at Post #25 (08-20-2014, 08:53 AM) – for background information. Source data for this thread: AP Top 25 NCAAF Scores &... Week 2 CFB – Which AP Top 25 team(s) will lose? 09-02-2014, 02:16 PM Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 18 ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2015, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-2-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/730370/2 "2015-09-08T19:46:40Z")
Please note that the **LSU** game should have been marked with **&&&** – they are playing **Mississippi State** and one of them must LOSE. Sorry about the oversight! ☹ ---
**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2015, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-2-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/730370/3 "2015-09-08T22:08:24Z")
Oregon Tennessee Miss St. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2015, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-2-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/730370/4 "2015-09-08T22:39:42Z")
Michigan State, Tennessee, and LSU ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2015, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-2-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/730370/5 "2015-09-08T23:25:28Z")
Here’s an early picture of some conservative predictions: ```auto ============================================================================== ### ### &&& $$$ $$$ &&& MichSt Oreg LSU Okla Boise Tenn MissSt ============================================ astorian 3 Oreg LSU Tenn Barkis is Willin' 3 MichSt Tenn MissSt jsc1953 3 Oreg Tenn MissSt Nauplius 4 Oreg Boise Tenn MissSt Oakminster 3 MichSt LSU Tenn RetroVertigo 3 Oreg Tenn MissSt txtumbleweed 3 MichSt Tenn MissSt Zeldar 3 MichSt Okla MissSt ============================================ MichSt Oreg LSU Okla Boise Tenn MissSt 8 25 4 4 2 1 1 7 6 /25 ============================================================================== Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 8 ``` ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-2-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/730370/6 "2015-09-09T02:56:45Z")
Unless Oregon’s defense is much better than it was last week, I’m not seeing this game as a win for them. (Just kibbitzing, not voting.) ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-2-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/730370/7 "2015-09-09T11:58:20Z")
As usual, I pick the maximum number of SEC teams to lose and the minimum number of Big Ten teams. I may not score well, but if I ever do it will be doubly satisfying. Game Day is coming to East Lansing! Woo hoo! And the Goodyear Blimp. Personally, I feel a bit cheated when lesser blimps like the Met Life Blimp are used. But I do miss the big silver Goodyear blimps of old, the newer yellow and blue ones aren’t as majestic. ---
**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-2-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/730370/8 "2015-09-09T12:58:30Z")
Michigan State was not overly impressive in their opener against whatever directional MAC school they played. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-2-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/730370/9 "2015-09-09T13:08:35Z")
It was at Western Michigan, the biggest game ever played in Kalamazoo so the opposition was probably playing a bit above their talent level. Everybody improves more between their first and second weeks than at any other time in the year, I expect the Spartans to be more than ready to pluck the Ducks. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-2-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/730370/10 "2015-09-09T14:46:41Z")
Morning Update: ```auto ====================================================================================================================== ### ### &&& $$$ $$$ &&& Bama MichSt Aubu Oreg LSU TX-AM Miss Ark Okla Boise Missou Tenn Utah MissSt ======================================================================================== astorian 3 Oreg LSU Tenn Barkis is Willin' 3 MichSt Tenn MissSt BobLibDem 9 Bama Aubu Oreg TX-AM Miss Ark Missou Tenn MissSt Jman 3 Oreg Miss () () MissSt jsc1953 3 Oreg Tenn MissSt Nauplius 4 Oreg Boise Tenn MissSt Oakminster 3 MichSt LSU Tenn Omar Little 2 MichSt () Okla () RetroVertigo 3 Oreg Tenn MissSt txtumbleweed 3 MichSt Tenn MissSt Zeldar 3 MichSt Okla MissSt Zyanthia 4 Oreg Okla Utah MissSt ======================================================================================== Bama MichSt Aubu Oreg LSU TX-AM Miss Ark Okla Boise Missou Tenn Utah MissSt 12 43 1 5 1 7 2 1 2 1 3 1 1 8 1 9 /43 ======================================================================================================================== Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 12 ``` ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-2-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/730370/11 "2015-09-09T19:48:26Z")
Oregon looked terrible and as much as I hate to pick them to lose I don’t see any way for them to win. On the other end of the spectrum I think BYU will be riding high after their narrow victory over nebraska so I think they’ve got a chance to upset Boise. LSU is a different upset I think by missing last week they’re going to be in a weird position and they aren’t going to be prepared. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-2-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/730370/12 "2015-09-09T21:19:02Z")
Afternoon Update: ```auto ====================================================================================================================== ### ### &&& $$$ $$$ &&& Bama MichSt Aubu Oreg LSU TX-AM Miss Ark Okla Boise Missou Tenn Utah MissSt ======================================================================================== astorian 3 Oreg LSU Tenn Barkis is Willin' 3 MichSt Tenn MissSt BobLibDem 9 Bama Aubu Oreg TX-AM Miss Ark Missou Tenn MissSt excavating (for a mind) 3 Oreg Okla MissSt Jman 3 Oreg Miss () () MissSt JohnT 3 MichSt Okla MissSt jsc1953 3 Oreg Tenn MissSt Nauplius 4 Oreg Boise Tenn MissSt Oakminster 3 MichSt LSU Tenn Omar Little 2 MichSt () Okla () Oredigger77 4 Oreg LSU Okla Boise RetroVertigo 3 Oreg Tenn MissSt txtumbleweed 3 MichSt Tenn MissSt Wolverine 3 Oreg Okla MissSt yellowjacketcoder 4 MichSt Boise Tenn MissSt Zeldar 3 MichSt Okla MissSt Zyanthia 4 Oreg Okla Utah MissSt ======================================================================================== Bama MichSt Aubu Oreg LSU TX-AM Miss Ark Okla Boise Missou Tenn Utah MissSt 17 60 1 7 1 10 3 1 2 1 7 3 1 9 1 13 /60 ======================================================================================================================== Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 17 ============================================================= ``` **Be sure to scroll right to see all of the crosstable. We’re one shy of last year’s Week 2 number of players.** 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-2-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/730370/13 "2015-09-10T22:42:26Z")
Just a reminder: > [@](#): > > This poll will close on 09-11-2015 at 02:36 PM Friday game. 9:00 PM EDT ESP2 Utah St. @ Utah (24) ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-2-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/730370/14 "2015-09-11T20:00:24Z")
Here’s the final crosstable: ```auto ====================================================================================================================== ### ### &&& $$$ $$$ &&& Bama MichSt Aubu Oreg LSU TX-AM Miss Ark Okla Boise Missou Tenn Utah MissSt ======================================================================================== astorian 3 Oreg LSU Tenn Barkis is Willin' 3 MichSt Tenn MissSt BobLibDem 9 Bama Aubu Oreg TX-AM Miss Ark Missou Tenn MissSt dba Fred 4 MichSt Boise Tenn MissSt excavating (for a mind) 3 Oreg Okla MissSt Jman 3 Oreg Miss () () MissSt JohnT 3 MichSt Okla MissSt jsc1953 3 Oreg Tenn MissSt Nauplius 4 Oreg Boise Tenn MissSt Oakminster 3 MichSt LSU Tenn Omar Little 2 MichSt () Okla () Oredigger77 4 Oreg LSU Okla Boise RetroVertigo 3 Oreg Tenn MissSt txtumbleweed 3 MichSt Tenn MissSt Wolverine 3 Oreg Okla MissSt yellowjacketcoder 4 MichSt Boise Tenn MissSt Zeldar 3 MichSt Okla MissSt Zyanthia 4 Oreg Okla Utah MissSt ======================================================================================== Bama MichSt Aubu Oreg LSU TX-AM Miss Ark Okla Boise Missou Tenn Utah MissSt 18 64 1 8 1 10 3 1 2 1 7 4 1 10 1 14 /64 ======================================================================================================================== Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 18 ``` ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2015, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-2-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/730370/15 "2015-09-13T06:26:27Z")
The final scores: ```auto ### ### &&& $$$ $$$ &&& Bama MichSt Aubu Oreg LSU TX-AM Miss Ark Okla Boise Missou Tenn Utah MissSt ======================================================================================== Nauplius +4/4 +1 +1 +1 +1 RetroVertigo +3/3 +1 +1 +1 jsc1953 +3/3 +1 +1 +1 dba Fred +2/4 -1 +1 +1 +1 yellowjacketcoder +2/4 -1 +1 +1 +1 astorian +1/3 +1 -1 +1 Barkis is Willin' +1/3 -1 +1 +1 excavating (for a mind) +1/3 +1 -1 +1 txtumbleweed +1/3 -1 +1 +1 Wolverine +1/3 +1 -1 +1 Jman 0/3 +1 -1 -1 -- +1 Zyanthia 0/4 +1 -1 -1 +1 Oredigger77 0/4 +1 -1 -1 +1 BobLibDem -1/9 -1 -1 +1 -1 -1 +1 -1 +1 +1 JohnT -1/3 -1 -1 +1 Oakminster -1/3 -1 -1 +1 Zeldar -1/3 -1 -1 +1 Omar Little -3/2 -1 -1 -1 -- ======================================================================================== Bama MichSt Aubu Oreg LSU TX-AM Miss Ark Okla Boise Missou Tenn Utah MissSt 18 64 1 8 1 10 3 1 2 1 7 4 1 10 1 14 /64 ======================================================================================================================== ``` ---
**Author:** ![dba\_Fred](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c37758/32.png) [@dba\_Fred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dba_Fred)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2015, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-2-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/730370/16 "2015-09-13T11:31:48Z")
Umm … don’t I get to be +3/4 😕? My submission & the scores & your crosstable show that. It’s not that I mind being paired with **yellowjacketcoder** (not that there’d be anything _wrong_ with that [that I know of :)]) but seeings how I’m unlikely to to reach the lofty heights of 75% again, I’d kinda like it displayed accurately for posterity, Now if my ranting last season about **Boise State** not being a state carries a −1 penalty I wasn’t aware of :smack:, well, okay :(. I’d thought the indignity of my alma mater, the **Arizona Wildcats** , losing in the **Fiesta Bowl** to **Boise State** (it’s _not_ a state!) was punishment enough :o. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2015, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-2-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/730370/17 "2015-09-13T14:21:36Z")
> [@dba\_Fred](#): > > Umm … don’t I get to be +3/4 😕? My submission & the scores & your crosstable show that. > It’s not that I mind being paired with **yellowjacketcoder** (not that there’d be anything _wrong_ with that [that I know of :)]) but seeings how I’m unlikely to to reach the lofty heights of 75% again, I’d kinda like it displayed accurately for posterity, > Now if my ranting last season about **Boise State** not being a state carries a −1 penalty I wasn’t aware of :smack:, well, okay :(. > I’d thought the indignity of my alma mater, the **Arizona Wildcats** , losing in the **Fiesta Bowl** to **Boise State** (it’s _not_ a state!) was punishment enough :o. Here’s your scores: dba Fred: ```auto MichSt W -1 Boise L +1 Tenn L +1 MissSt L +1 ``` The SUM is +2. +3 -1 = +2 ---
**Author:** ![dba\_Fred](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c37758/32.png) [@dba\_Fred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dba_Fred)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2015, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-2-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/730370/18 "2015-09-13T16:02:23Z")
Ahhh, now I see, I was looking at it as Correct/Incorrect vs a points total. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2015, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-2-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/730370/19 "2015-09-13T16:39:59Z")
> [@dba\_Fred](#): > > Ahhh, now I see, I was looking at it as Correct/Incorrect vs a points total. Okay. Maybe the scoring was a bit vague before.