# Week 3 CFB -- Which AP Top 25 team(s) will lose? **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 7, 2014, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-3-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/697790 "2014-09-07T19:02:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2014, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-3-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/697790/1 "2014-09-07T19:02:31Z")
Scoring for this week’s poll is as follows: 1. Pick a team to Lose and they LOSE – **+1 point** 2. Pick a team to Lose and they WIN – **-1 point** 3. Fail to pick a Loser in the Georgia - South Carolina game --\*\* -1 point\*\* (two Top 25 teams playing – one must lose) 4. otherwise, no penalty for not picking a Loser ================================== This week’s schedule of the AP Top 25: ```auto Top 25 FBS Weeks: 3 Thursday, September 11 9:00 PM EDT Houston @ (25) BYU Friday, September 12 8:00 PM EDT (8) Baylor @ Buffalo Saturday, September 13 8:00 PM EDT Tennessee @ (4) Oklahoma 12:00 PM EDT East Carolina @ (17) Virginia Tech 12:00 PM EDT UCF @ (20) Missouri 12:00 PM EDT Kent St. @ (22) Ohio St. 12:30 PM EDT (21) Louisville @ Virginia 2:00 PM EDT Wyoming @ (2) Oregon 3:30 PM EDT (6) Georgia @ (24) South Carolina <<< 4:00 PM EDT La Lafayet. @ (14) Mississippi 5:00 PM EDT Army @ (15) Stanford 6:00 PM EDT Southern Miss @ (3) Alabama 7:00 PM EDT LA Monroe @ (10) LSU 7:30 PM EDT Purdue @ (11) Notre Dame 8:00 PM EDT (9) USC @ Boston Coll. 8:00 PM EDT (12) UCLA @ Texas 9:00 PM EDT Rice @ (7) Texas A&M 10:00 PM EDT (16) Arizona St. @ Colorado ``` Last week’s thread: [Week 2 CFB – Which AP Top 25 team(s) will lose?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=732901) from 09-02-2014, 02:16 PM Source data: > **[NCAAF College Football Scores & Game Results - Yahoo Sports](https://sports.yahoo.com/college-football/scoreboard/?week=3&conf=)** > > Sports News, Scores, Fantasy Games > **[NCAAF College Football Rankings - Yahoo Sports](https://sports.yahoo.com/college-football/rankings/)** > > Sports News, Scores, Fantasy Games > **[NCAA College Football Rankings: AP Top 25 Football Poll | AP News](https://apnews.com/hub/ap-top-25-college-football-poll)** > > Georgia, Michigan, TCU and Ohio State were the top four in the final Associated Press college football poll of the regular season. =================================== ```auto AP Top 25. 1.Florida St. (idle) 2.Oregon 3.Alabama 4.Oklahoma 5.Auburn (idle) 6.Georgia 7.Texas A&M 8.Baylor 9.USC 10.LSU 11.Notre Dame 12.UCLA 13.Michigan St. (idle) 14.Mississippi 15.Stanford 16.Arizona St. 17.Virginia Tech 18.Wisconsin (idle) 19.Kansas St. (idle) 20.Missouri 21.Louisville 22.Ohio St. 23.Clemson (idle) 24.South Carolina 25.BYU View Complete Poll Sun Sep 7, 2014 ``` Multiple choice poll on the way… ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2014, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-3-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/697790/2 "2014-09-07T19:08:49Z")
I must be buying into groupthink, because this seems pretty chalky to me (if I am allowed to borrow a term from basketball). ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2014, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-3-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/697790/3 "2014-09-07T19:29:19Z")
> [@Doctor\_Who](#): > > I must be buying into groupthink, because this seems pretty chalky to me (if I am allowed to borrow a term from basketball). I’ve encountered the term and its variants in football chatter, so it’s not limited to basketball as far as I can tell. Even if we don’t insist that voting one’s picks for upsets should follow one’s heart (or seat of pants) it might be fun to have some side bets/guesses as to the most likely games to feature such. I was just plain lucky picking VT to beat OSU this past weekend, and except for the SEC games I watched, that was the most fun to see. In front of the biggest crowd yet in the Horseshoe, too. I’ve already picked Tennessee to take The Belt from Oklahoma, so there’s that one anyway. Otherwise, I don’t sense anything “outside the chalk” this week. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-3-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/697790/4 "2014-09-08T22:08:47Z")
I thought I’d share my effort to locate the most likely games to provide some real battles and otherwise exciting contests. This is in reverse order of “Most likely to be a battle” and is based on some secret ingredients for that determination. Over and above your “must watch” games (favorite team and such) you might wish to aim at the bottom of this stack for the games most likely to be fun to watch. Comments and arguments are welcomed. If you want to list your own “must see” games for comparison, have at. ```auto 6:00 PM EDT Southern Miss @ (3) Alabama 7:30 PM EDT Purdue @ (11) Notre Dame 2:00 PM EDT Wyoming @ (2) Oregon 12:00 PM EDT Kent St. @ (22) Ohio St. 7:00 PM EDT LA Monroe @ (10) LSU 4:00 PM EDT La Lafayet. @ (14) Mississippi 8:00 PM EDT (8) Baylor @ Buffalo 8:00 PM EDT (9) USC @ Boston Coll. 9:00 PM EDT Houston @ (25) BYU 12:00 PM EDT East Carolina @ (17) Virginia Tech 9:00 PM EDT Rice @ (7) Texas A&M 10:00 PM EDT (16) Arizona St. @ Colorado 3:30 PM EDT (6) Georgia @ (24) South Carolina 8:00 PM EDT Tennessee @ (4) Oklahoma 5:00 PM EDT Army @ (15) Stanford 12:30 PM EDT (21) Louisville @ Virginia 8:00 PM EDT (12) UCLA @ Texas 12:00 PM EDT UCF @ (20) Missouri ``` ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-3-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/697790/5 "2014-09-08T23:53:47Z")
Another meh week in terms of matchups, other than Georgia-SCar, which is significant, but probably won’t be close. I’ve got SCar as my only loser this week. Poor Southern Miss. They got stomped by Miss St, picked up a win against somebody…maybe Alcorn St…last week, and now they have to play Bama. Saban could probably start his third string and beat them. His first string is going to kill them. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2014, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-3-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/697790/6 "2014-09-09T18:32:53Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Another meh week in terms of matchups, other than Georgia-SCar, which is significant, but probably won’t be close. I’ve got SCar as my only loser this week. I’m with you for now, but that UCLA/UT matchup just won’t get out of my head… ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2014, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-3-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/697790/7 "2014-09-09T20:21:33Z")
Here’s how it’s shaping up after 10 Voters: ```auto =========================================================================================== >>> >>> Bama Okla Georgia TexA&M LSU NotDam UCLA Missi ArizSt VaTech Misso SCar ======================================================================= armedmonkey 1 SCar BobLibDem 7 Bama TexA&M LSU NotDam Missi Misso SCar Doctor Who 1 SCar Nauplius 1 SCar Oakminster 1 SCar Oredigger77 2 VaTech SCar Sterling Archer 1 SCar Zakalwe 1 SCar Zeldar 2 Okla Georgia Zyanthia 3 UCLA ArizSt SCar Bama Okla Georgia TexA&M LSU NotDam UCLA Missi ArizSt VaTech Misso SCar ======================================================================= 10 20 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 9 /20 =========================================================================================== ``` ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2014, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-3-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/697790/8 "2014-09-10T14:42:54Z")
Due to the first game involving the Top 25 coming at 9:00 EDT tomorrow night, this poll is closing tomorrow (Thursday) afternoon. If you meant to vote, now’s the time! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2014, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-3-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/697790/9 "2014-09-10T17:29:40Z")
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**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2014, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-3-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/697790/10 "2014-09-10T20:11:16Z")
> [@Zeldar](#): > > Scoring for this week’s poll is as follows: > > 1. Pick a team to Lose and they LOSE – **+1 point** > 2. Pick a team to Lose and they WIN – **-1 point** > 3. Fail to pick a Loser in the Georgia - South Carolina game --\*\* -1 point\*\* > (two Top 25 teams playing – one must lose) Why bother with #3 if you can choose both Georgia and South Carolina, and you would get +1 for the loser and -1 for the winner? Perhaps there should also be a -1 penalty for choosing both teams in a single game? ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2014, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-3-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/697790/11 "2014-09-10T20:30:57Z")
> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > Why bother with #3 if you can choose both Georgia and South Carolina, and you would get +1 for the loser and -1 for the winner? > Perhaps there should also be a -1 penalty for choosing both teams in a single game? Yes. I obviously overlooked the possibility that you’re better off (0) picking both than picking neither (-1). Maybe **astorian** has an answer you might like. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-3-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/697790/12 "2014-09-11T14:24:25Z")
> [@Zeldar](#): > > Scoring for this week’s poll is as follows: > > 1. Pick a team to Lose and they LOSE – **+1 point** > > 2. Pick a team to Lose and they WIN – **-1 point** > > 3. Fail to pick a Loser in the Georgia - South Carolina game --\*\* -1 point\*\* > (two Top 25 teams playing – one must lose) > > 4. otherwise, no penalty for not picking a Loser > [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > Why bother with #3 if you can choose both Georgia and South Carolina, and you would get +1 for the loser and -1 for the winner? > Perhaps there should also be a -1 penalty for choosing both teams in a single game? After some additional thought, I propose to alter the scoring ( **starting next week** ) to: 1. Pick a team to LOSE and they LOSE – **+1 point** 2. Pick a team to LOSE and they WIN – **-1 point** 3. Fail to pick a LOSER in a game involving two Top 25 teams–\*\* -1 point\*\* (two Top 25 teams playing – one must lose) 4. Pick both teams to LOSE in a game involving two Top 25 teams–\*\* -1 point\*\* (two Top 25 teams playing – one must lose) What am I missing now? ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-3-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/697790/13 "2014-09-11T19:09:20Z")
Here’s how we voted: ```auto ================================================================================================== >>> >>> Bama Okla Georgia TexA&M LSU NotDam UCLA Missi ArizSt VaTech Misso SCar BYU =========================================================================== armedmonkey 1 SCar astorian 1 Misso BobLibDem 7 Bama TexA&M LSU NotDam Missi Misso SCar Doctor Who 1 SCar JohnT 3 NotDam UCLA SCar Labrador Deceiver 1 SCar Nauplius 1 SCar Oakminster 1 SCar Oredigger77 2 VaTech SCar Sterling Archer 1 SCar Wolverine 2 SCar BYU Zakalwe 1 SCar Zeldar 2 Okla Georgia Zyanthia 3 UCLA ArizSt SCar Bama Okla Georgia TexA&M LSU NotDam UCLA Missi ArizSt VaTech Misso SCar BYU =========================================================================== 14 27 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 1 1 1 2 12 1 /27 ================================================================================================= ``` ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2014, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-3-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/697790/14 "2014-09-14T05:47:40Z")
Here are the results: ```auto ================================================================================================== W W L W W W W W W L W W W >>> >>> Bama Okla Georgia TexA&M LSU NotDam UCLA Missi ArizSt VaTech Misso SCar BYU =========================================================================== armedmonkey 1 SCar astorian 1 Misso BobLibDem 7 Bama TexA&M LSU NotDam Missi Misso SCar Doctor Who 1 SCar JohnT 3 NotDam UCLA SCar Labrador Deceiver 1 SCar Nauplius 1 SCar Oakminster 1 SCar Oredigger77 2 VaTech SCar Sterling Archer 1 SCar Wolverine 2 SCar BYU Zakalwe 1 SCar Zeldar 2 Okla Georgia Zyanthia 3 UCLA ArizSt SCar Bama Okla Georgia TexA&M LSU NotDam UCLA Missi ArizSt VaTech Misso SCar BYU =========================================================================== 14 27 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 1 1 1 2 12 1 /27 ================================================================================================= ================================================================================================== W W L W W W W W W L W W W >>> >>> Bama Okla Georgia TexA&M LSU NotDam UCLA Missi ArizSt VaTech Misso SCar BYU =========================================================================== Oredigger77 2/0 +1 -1 Zeldar 2/0 -1 +1 armedmonkey 1/-1 -1 Doctor Who 1/-1 -1 Labrador Deceiver 1/-1 -1 Nauplius 1/-1 -1 Oakminster 1/-1 -1 Sterling Archer 1/-1 -1 Zakalwe 1/-1 -1 astorian 1/-2 (-1) -1 ( ) Wolverine 2/-2 -1 -1 JohnT 3/-3 -1 -1 -1 Zyanthia 3/-3 -1 -1 -1 BobLibDem 7/-7 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 Bama Okla Georgia TexA&M LSU NotDam UCLA Missi ArizSt VaTech Misso SCar BYU =========================================================================== 14 27 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 1 1 1 2 12 1 /27 ================================================================================================= ``` ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2014, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-3-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/697790/15 "2014-09-14T07:46:06Z")
Brutal week for me here and in Pick’em. 4 ranked teams went down, and I didn’t get any of those games right. The SEC East is wide open with the Georgia loss. Should see a lot of movement in the polls this week. Can Ole Miss crack the Top 10? I doubt it, but they keep moving up. How about Miss State? Can they crack the Top 25? ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2014, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-3-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/697790/16 "2014-09-14T13:25:41Z")
Here are the standings after Week 3: ```auto **Name Total Week 1 Week2 Week 3** tonyfop 3 0 3 0 Frosted Glass 2 2 0 0 Snupzilla 2 2 0 0 USCDiver 2 2 0 0 Zakalwe 2 1 2 -1 doverpro 1 1 0 0 Mince 1 1 0 0 Oakminster 1 4 -2 -1 Really Not All That Bright 1 1 0 0 Snowboarder Bo 1 1 0 0 basset hound 0 0 0 0 Nauplius 0 2 -1 -1 Oredigger77 0 0 0 0 Wolverine 0 1 1 -2 armedmonkey -1 0 0 -1 Doctor Who -1 2 -2 -1 excavating (for a mind) -1 0 -1 0 jsc1953 -1 -3 2 0 Labrador Deceiver -1 0 0 -1 LonghornDave -1 -1 0 0 Pai325 -1 -1 0 0 RetroVertigo -1 0 -1 0 Sterling Archer -1 0 0 -1 The Universe Lashes Out -1 0 -1 0 Zeldar -1 0 -1 0 bump -2 -1 -1 0 JohnT -3 0 0 -3 astorian -4 0 -2 -2 susan -4 -4 0 0 Zyanthia -4 -1 0 -3 Typo Negative -6 -3 -3 0 BobLibDem -21 -5 -9 -7 ```