# Week 4 CFB -- Which AP Top 25 team(s) will lose? **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 14, 2014, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-4-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/698493 "2014-09-14T19:38:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2014, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-4-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/698493/1 "2014-09-14T19:38:19Z")
* * * Scoring for this week’s poll is as follows: 1. Pick a team to LOSE and they LOSE – **+1 point** 2. Pick a team to LOSE and they WIN – **-1 point** 3. Fail to pick a LOSER in a game involving two Top 25 teams-- **-1 point** (two Top 25 teams playing – one must lose) 4. Pick both teams to LOSE in a game involving two Top 25 teams-- **-1 point** (two Top 25 teams playing – one must lose) ================================== This week’s schedule: > **[NCAAF College Football Scores & Game Results - Yahoo Sports](https://sports.yahoo.com/college-football/scoreboard/?week=4&conf=)** > > Sports News, Scores, Fantasy Games Yahoo Sports NCAAF Scores & Schedule Top 25 FBS ```auto Weeks: 4 *** Thursday, September 18 7:30 PM EDT (5) Auburn @ (20) Kansas St. <<< *** Saturday, September 20 7:30 PM EDT (14) South Carolina @ Vanderbilt 12:00 PM EDT East. Michigan @ (11) Michigan St. 12:00 PM EDT Bowling Green @ (19) Wisconsin 12:00 PM EDT Troy @ (13) Georgia 3:30 PM EDT Florida @ (3) Alabama 3:30 PM EDT (6) Texas A&M @ SMU 3:30 PM EDT Virginia @ (21) BYU 4:00 PM EDT Indiana @ (18) Missouri 7:00 PM EDT Mississippi St. @ (8) LSU 7:30 PM EDT (4) Oklahoma @ West Virginia 8:00 PM EDT (22) Clemson @ (1) Florida St. <<< 8:00 PM EDT Miami (FL) @ (24) Nebraska 10:30 PM EDT (2) Oregon @ Washington St. "<<<" must pick one or the other! ``` > **[NCAA College Football Rankings: AP Top 25 Football Poll | AP News](https://apnews.com/hub/ap-top-25-college-football-poll)** > > Georgia, Michigan, TCU and Ohio State were the top four in the final Associated Press college football poll of the regular season. > **[NCAAF College Football Rankings - Yahoo Sports](https://sports.yahoo.com/college-football/rankings/)** > > Sports News, Scores, Fantasy Games ```auto College Football The AP Top 25 Poll 1 Florida State ACC Record: 2-0 1,466 2 Oregon Pac-12 Record: 3-0 1,424 3 Alabama SEC Record: 3-0 1,346 4 Oklahoma Big 12 Record: 3-0 1,325 5 Auburn SEC Record: 2-0 1,252 6 Texas A&M SEC Record: 3-0 1,195 7 Baylor Big 12 Record: 3-0 1,134 (idle) Week 5: Saturday, September 27 @ Iowa St. 8 LSU SEC Record: 3-0 1,114 9 Notre Dame Div I FBS Ind Record: 3-0 917 (idle) Week 5: Saturday, September 27 vs. Syracuse 10 Mississippi SEC Record: 3-0 840 (idle) Week 5: Saturday, September 27 vs. Memphis 11 Michigan State Big Ten Record: 1-1 832 12 UCLA Pac-12 Record: 3-0 807 (idle) Week 5: Thursday, September 25 @ (15) Arizona St. 13 Georgia SEC Record: 1-1 729 14 South Carolina SEC Record: 2-1 718 15 Arizona State Pac-12 Record: 3-0 680 (idle) see UCLA 16 Stanford Pac-12 Record: 2-1 560 (idle) Week 5: Saturday, September 27 @ Washington 17 USC Pac-12 Record: 2-1 459 (idle) Week 5: Saturday, September 27 vs. Oregon St. 18 Missouri SEC Record: 3-0 446 19 Wisconsin Big Ten Record: 1-1 414 20 Kansas State Big 12 Record: 2-0 326 21 Brigham Young Div I FBS Ind Record: 3-0 246 22 Clemson ACC Record: 1-1 209 23 Ohio State Big Ten Record: 2-1 204 (idle) Week 5: Saturday, September 27 vs. Cincinnati 24 Nebraska Big Ten Record: 3-0 172 25 Oklahoma State Big 12 Record: 2-1 126 (idle) Week 5: Thursday, September 25 vs. Texas Tech ``` Last week’s thread: [Week 3 CFB – Which AP Top 25 team(s) will lose?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=733433) from 09-07-2014, 02:02 PM =================================== Multiple choice poll on the way… ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-4-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/698493/2 "2014-09-15T00:32:06Z")
I see we agreed on the 'Huskers losing, but you are going DOWN on the Clemson/FSU pick, **Zeldar**! Now, if we were betting the spread, you might have the better side of the bet, but an outright win? ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-4-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/698493/3 "2014-09-15T00:46:57Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > I see we agreed on the 'Huskers losing, but you are going DOWN on the Clemson/FSU pick, **Zeldar**! Now, if we were betting the spread, you might have the better side of the bet, but an outright win? I admit it’s risky but the target on the Noles’ backs is big enough for Dabo to pull out the same can of Whip-Ass than Spurrier found this last weekend. It ought to be a close game but Clemson has stuff they want to prove again. I like their chances. Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2014, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-4-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/698493/4 "2014-09-16T04:23:16Z")
I’ve got Kansas St, Clemson, and LSU to lose this week. Going out on a limb for my Bullydogs. #HailState! ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2014, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-4-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/698493/5 "2014-09-16T15:24:29Z")
This is a glorified bump, but here’s where things stand after 5 Voters: ```auto ========================================================================== >>> <<< <<< >>> FLState Aub LSU KanSt BYU Clem Nebr ========================================= Chingon 1 Aub Oakminster 3 LSU KanSt Clem Wolverine 4 KanSt BYU Clem Nebr Zakalwe 3 KanSt Clem Nebr Zeldar 3 FLState KanSt Nebr FLState Aub LSU KanSt BYU Clem Nebr ========================================= 5 14 1 1 1 4 1 3 3 /14 ========================================================================== ``` ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-4-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/698493/6 "2014-09-17T16:13:11Z")
Another bump with the reminder that the poll closes tomorrow: ```auto =============================================================================== >>> <<< <<< >>> FLState Bama Okla Aub LSU KanSt BYU Clem Nebr ===================================================== astorian 4 Okla BYU Clem Nebr Chingon 1 Aub jsc1953 1 BYU Oakminster 3 LSU KanSt Clem Ponch8 3 FLState Bama KanSt Wolverine 4 KanSt BYU Clem Nebr yellowjacketcoder 4 LSU KanSt Clem Nebr Zakalwe 3 KanSt Clem Nebr Zyanthia 3 KanSt BYU Clem Zeldar 3 FLState KanSt Nebr ===================================================== FLState Bama Okla Aub LSU KanSt BYU Clem Nebr ===================================================== 10 29 2 1 1 1 2 7 4 6 5 /29 =================================================================================== ``` ---
**Author:** ![Nauplius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nauplius/32/51_2.png) [@Nauplius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nauplius)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-4-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/698493/7 "2014-09-17T16:22:28Z")
Right after I make my picks I see that Winston will be out for the first half against Clemson. I don’t know if that is enough to make me rethink my choice though but will definitely make the game more interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-4-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/698493/8 "2014-09-17T16:35:18Z")
I don’t think it will, **Nauplius**. Sean Macguire is a capable, if inexperienced, QB. I would start thinking about taking Clemson and the 20 points (and the Under) though! Hopefully this will wake the boy up some. Jimbo is fed up with his shit and it’s past time he learned to control himself better. Dumbass. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-4-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/698493/9 "2014-09-17T18:14:54Z")
**Zeldar** , did you change the poll to “closed”? I can’t see who I voted for, and I can’t see who anybody else voted for. I think I voted for Kansas State and Clemson, but I can’t see it. I see arrows, though, I hope they don’t mean I accidentally picked one of the two teams to win. War Eagle and I think the the Seminoles will probably even cover the spread. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-4-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/698493/10 "2014-09-17T18:32:08Z")
Auburn 38 Kansas State 30 Florida State 45 Clemson 17 ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-4-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/698493/11 "2014-09-17T18:47:04Z")
I can still see the results. You voted for the two teams you wanted to. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-4-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/698493/12 "2014-09-17T18:57:41Z")
My bad, I see it now, too. However, the fact I couldn’t find that made me make score predictions. That’s kinda fun. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-4-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/698493/13 "2014-09-17T20:45:24Z")
Sorry for the delay in responding, but I was away for a while. Hope this answers the questions: ```auto ==================================================================================== >>> <<< <<< >>> FLState Bama Okla Aub LSU KanSt BYU Clem Nebr ===================================================== armedmonkey 2 KanSt Clem astorian 4 Okla BYU Clem Nebr Chingon 1 Aub excavating (for a mind) 2 KanSt Clem jsc1953 1 BYU Nauplius 3 KanSt Clem Nebr Oakminster 3 LSU KanSt Clem Ponch8 3 FLState Bama KanSt Wolverine 4 KanSt BYU Clem Nebr yellowjacketcoder 4 LSU KanSt Clem Nebr Zakalwe 3 KanSt Clem Nebr Zeldar 3 FLState KanSt Nebr zoog 3 KanSt Clem Nebr Zyanthia 3 KanSt BYU Clem ===================================================== FLState Bama Okla Aub LSU KanSt BYU Clem Nebr ===================================================== 14 39 2 1 1 1 2 11 4 10 7 /39 ==================================================================================== ``` ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2014, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-4-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/698493/14 "2014-09-18T19:45:54Z")
The final tally: ```auto ==================================================================================== >>> <<< <<< >>> FLState Bama Okla Aub LSU KanSt BYU Clem Nebr ===================================================== armedmonkey 2 KanSt Clem astorian 4 Okla BYU Clem Nebr Chingon 1 Aub excavating (for a mind) 2 KanSt Clem jsc1953 1 BYU Nauplius 3 KanSt Clem Nebr Oakminster 3 LSU KanSt Clem Ponch8 3 FLState Bama KanSt Quintas 1 FLState Wolverine 4 KanSt BYU Clem Nebr yellowjacketcoder 4 LSU KanSt Clem Nebr Zakalwe 3 KanSt Clem Nebr Zeldar 3 FLState KanSt Nebr zoog 3 KanSt Clem Nebr Zyanthia 3 KanSt BYU Clem ===================================================== FLState Bama Okla Aub LSU KanSt BYU Clem Nebr ===================================================== 15 40 3 1 1 1 2 11 4 10 7 /40 ==================================================================================== ``` ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2014, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-4-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/698493/15 "2014-09-19T14:18:35Z")
I feel as if I am speaking for all but one who participated in the poll – War Damn Eagle! And let’s all pray that only three will be able to gloat after the Clemson game. I’m hoping to be one of them! It seems the only other Big Ticket game will be the Nebraska one. Do you have any “must see” games that weren’t mentioned by poll votes? In our TV market anyway, there’s a serious logjam of games I want to see while they’re in progress with start times between 7:00 and 8:00 EDT. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2014, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-4-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/698493/16 "2014-09-20T12:54:00Z")
Now that Jameis is sitting the whole game, does anybody feel that FL State still wins the Clemson game? ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2014, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-4-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/698493/17 "2014-09-20T13:01:26Z")
I’m standing by my pick in the Clemson game, even without Winston. I’ll be watching Alabama/Florida and Miss State/LSU, while possibly catching parts of others. And I think you should go ahead and put **Boblibdem** down for picking against every SEC team, including the conference battles, just for the sake of tradition. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2014, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-4-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/698493/18 "2014-09-20T13:35:38Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > I’m standing by my pick in the Clemson game, even without Winston. I’ll be watching Alabama/Florida and Miss State/LSU, while possibly catching parts of others. > > And I think you should go ahead and put **Boblibdem** down for picking against every SEC team, including the conference battles, just for the sake of tradition. It looks like the early games this week are snoozers. Did I miss a good one? I may be misreading his thoughts, but I believe **BobLibDem** may have seen the writing on the wall. Besides, I wouldn’t know how to pick his non-SEC choice in the Clemson game. 😉 How do you rate Florida’s chances? Miss State’s? I can see how you voted but do you have a feel for spreads? ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2014, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-4-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/698493/19 "2014-09-20T14:59:08Z")
> [@Zeldar](#): > > How do you rate Florida’s chances? Miss State’s? I can see how you voted but do you have a feel for spreads? I would say that Florida has a very outside shot, but they will HAVE to contain the 'Bama running game and force them into the pass. If they can do that and the Gator offense plays without mistakes, then they have a shot. Miss St is toast. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2014, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-4-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/698493/20 "2014-09-21T02:57:42Z")
State hung on for the huge road win in Death Valley, despite giving up 2 touchdowns in under 30 seconds, and giving LSU the ball with a chance to win as time expired. Strange things happen in that stadium at night, but this time the Tigers ran out of magic. Bama should have really blown out Florida. Sloppy game with way too many turnovers, but they still won comfortably. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-4-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/698493.md?page=2)