# Week 5 Fantasy Football Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [October 5, 2010, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-5-fantasy-football-discussion/556105 "2010-10-05T10:00:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Superhal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Superhal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superhal)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-5-fantasy-football-discussion/556105/1 "2010-10-05T10:00:04Z")
My team for next week looks awesome. I got my KC guys back and none of my main stars are on byes. However, I’ve got these guys on my radar: Ryan Torain (Was) Mike Tolbert (SD) Rickey Williams (Mia) All three of the above are performing better than the guys in front of them and will probably see more playing time down the line. However, I’m pretty rich at RB already with MJD (finally), Addai, and Jamaal Charles (2 rb, 1 flex) with BenJarvus on bye this week. At WR, I’m a bit thinner with Ochocinco dragging down my starters (play 3.) Calvin Johnson, Lance Moore (lucky WW pick there with him getting punt return duties), Dwayne Bowe, and Demaryius Thomas. Chad will probably start because they’re at home vs TB, but I think I need to replace Thomas. On the waiver: Roy Williams Eddie Royal Davone Bess I like Davone, but Roy and Eddie could be the home run hitters. My kicker (Reed) is on bye this week, but I’ll probably just drop him. When he loses his confidence like that, it could last for the whole season. Possible replacements: Mike Nugent (Cin) Matt Bryant (Atl) I really like KC’s defense. However, I already have New Orleans and Chicago, and new England looked really impressive last night. My questions: 1. Am I solid enough at RB? Should I get one of the up and comers? Should I think about being thankful to have Benjarvus this week, drop him, and get someone else? 2. Should I give Demaryius more time? 3. Which kicker should I get? 4. Was New England just a one time deal? I think KC is more consistent this season, but neither team has as soft a schedule as NO and Chicago. Also, I think of the 4, KC has the most dynamic returner in McCluster (the rest have their best returner only doing kicks or punts, not both.) ---
**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-5-fantasy-football-discussion/556105/2 "2010-10-05T15:55:51Z")
I picked up Torain. Ricky will be up and down depending on the opponent and how Ronny Brown is doing, but less upside than Torain. Tolbert will get goal line carries but if Matthews starts showing his stuff may get less and less carries. As for Thomas, I’d keep him. He’s in a pass first offense with no current running game, lots of upside there. As for the kickers, I like Bryant, but wouldn’t bitch if I had Nugent. I like the KC defense, but they have a tough schedule. I don’t trust the NE defense. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-5-fantasy-football-discussion/556105/3 "2010-10-05T16:45:48Z")
Ricky Williams needs to be picked up in your league. I don’t trust Joseph Addai at all, and I certainly don’t trust any Colts players to do anything for me in the playoffs. Addai had 6 games with over 100 yards of offense in 2007. Since then, he’s had a total of 5 games. He’s just not that good (or at least, poorly used). Also - what are you league settings where Lance Moore is useful in an 8 team league? How many points are you getting for return yards? ---
**Author:** ![ReticulatingSplines](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e274bd/32.png) [@ReticulatingSplines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ReticulatingSplines)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-5-fantasy-football-discussion/556105/4 "2010-10-05T16:54:52Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > I certainly don’t trust any Colts players to do anything for me in the playoffs. Speaking as someone who got hosed in the championship game last year because of Peyton Manning, I agree in theory, but they do look less dominant this year. They may actually have to compete late in the season. ---
**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-5-fantasy-football-discussion/556105/5 "2010-10-05T17:10:33Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > Also - what are you league settings where Lance Moore is useful in an 8 team league? How many points are you getting for return yards? He’s in an 8 team league? I figured from his players it was a 12 team. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-5-fantasy-football-discussion/556105/6 "2010-10-05T19:11:34Z")
> [@Who\_me\_1](#): > > He’s in an 8 team league? I figured from his players it was a 12 team. 8, and the top 6 make the playoffs. In other words - draft for December. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-5-fantasy-football-discussion/556105/7 "2010-10-05T19:13:07Z")
> [@ReticulatingSplines](#): > > I agree in theory, but they do look less dominant this year. They may actually have to compete late in the season. Yeah - but I doubt you’d have said that the day of your draft. ---
**Author:** ![Superhal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Superhal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superhal)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-5-fantasy-football-discussion/556105/8 "2010-10-05T22:43:40Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > Also - what are you league settings where Lance Moore is useful in an 8 team league? How many points are you getting for return yards? He’s useful when he scores. 🙂 It’s something like 1 pt per rec, 8 yards/point rec, 8 pts/td, and 30 yards/pt returns. He scored 15 points for me last week, vs 10 for Chad. ---
**Author:** ![Superhal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Superhal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superhal)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-5-fantasy-football-discussion/556105/9 "2010-10-05T23:44:02Z")
With Marshawn Lynch traded to the Seahawks, will he or CJ Spiller have any value? I think CJ will be worth more than Lynch. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-5-fantasy-football-discussion/556105/10 "2010-10-06T10:15:57Z")
Well, now that waiver claims are all processed for the week, I can comment… Brandon LLoyd is the #4 scoring WR. At least in a half PPR format. What the hell is that? Some weird shit going down in Denver. I just snatched him for $31 FAAB and I have no idea if anyone came close. Imagine if someone close in score but with some star power like Roddy White or Anquan Boldin was available on the waiver wire - people would be selling their kidneys to get him. Is LLoyd going to keep it up? Can I trust the Denver offense? Should I be starting him over Calvin Johnson vs St. Louis (probably not) or Mark Clayton @DET? ---
**Author:** ![fjs1fs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9e8a1a/32.png) [@fjs1fs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fjs1fs)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-5-fantasy-football-discussion/556105/11 "2010-10-06T13:35:07Z")
> [@ReticulatingSplines](#): > > > [@Munch](#): > > > > I certainly don’t trust any Colts players to do anything for me in the playoffs. > > Speaking as someone who got hosed in the championship game last year because of Peyton Manning, I agree in theory, but they do look less dominant this year. They may actually have to compete late in the season. They already lost two games, and they just lost Melvin Bullitt, so you can throw that analysis out the window–they’ll probably be playing to win thru wk 17. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-5-fantasy-football-discussion/556105/12 "2010-10-06T15:35:10Z")
> [@Superhal](#): > > However, I’ve got these guys on my radar: > Ryan Torain (Was) > Mike Tolbert (SD) > Rickey Williams (Mia) > All three of the above are performing better than the guys in front of them and will probably see more playing time down the line. However, I’m pretty rich at RB already with MJD (finally), Addai, and Jamaal Charles (2 rb, 1 flex) with BenJarvus on bye this week. Ricky Williams is certainly not outplaying Ronnie Brown. Brown has more carries, higher YPC, and more catches and receiving yards. Torain’s the guy you want. Tolbert’s not going to win the starting job, but Torain just might. > [@](#): > > At WR, I’m a bit thinner with Ochocinco dragging down my starters (play 3.) Calvin Johnson, Lance Moore (lucky WW pick there with him getting punt return duties), Dwayne Bowe, and Demaryius Thomas. Chad will probably start because they’re at home vs TB, but I think I need to replace Thomas. On the waiver: > Roy Williams > Eddie Royal > Davone Bess Bess is a marginal guy even in 12-team, three receiver leagues. As with Ricky Williams, he only has value if the only Dolphins game you’ve seen this season was the Monday nighter. Bess is the fourth option in Miami right now. > [@fjs1fs](#): > > > [@ReticulatingSplines](#): > > > > Speaking as someone who got hosed in the championship game last year because of Peyton Manning, I agree in theory, but they do look less dominant this year. They may actually have to compete late in the season. > > They already lost two games, and they just lost Melvin Bullitt, so you can throw that analysis out the window–they’ll probably be playing to win thru wk 17. I don’t care how they start; they’re going to win 11 games, minimum. Right now, it doesn’t look much like anyone in the AFC is going to win more than 12. ---
**Author:** ![ReticulatingSplines](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e274bd/32.png) [@ReticulatingSplines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ReticulatingSplines)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-5-fantasy-football-discussion/556105/13 "2010-10-06T16:55:57Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > > [@ReticulatingSplines](#): > > > > I agree in theory, but they do look less dominant this year. They may actually have to compete late in the season. > > Yeah - but I doubt you’d have said that the day of your draft. Indeed. In fact, I traded Manning prior to the start of the season. Fool me once, shame on me, fool me twice… ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-5-fantasy-football-discussion/556105/14 "2010-10-06T17:49:59Z")
You, sir, are a doofus. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-5-fantasy-football-discussion/556105/15 "2010-10-06T18:32:42Z")
OK here are my options, 2 WR, 1 TE, and 1 TE/WR flex My WRS: Austin Collie (definite start) Anquan Boldin (definite start) Randy Moss (against Darrel Revis) Michael Crabtree TEs: Greg Olsen (definite start) Jeremy Shockey So the question is who to put in the flex: Moss, Crabtree or Shockey. Crabtree is kind of a bust so far this year, so he is probably option number three, Shockey and Moss have been actually pretty close in Fantasy points. What to do? ---
**Author:** ![ReticulatingSplines](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e274bd/32.png) [@ReticulatingSplines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ReticulatingSplines)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-5-fantasy-football-discussion/556105/16 "2010-10-06T18:34:31Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > You, sir, are a doofus. No argument there, but not by virtue of this trade. I got Adrian Peterson and Andre Johnson back. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-5-fantasy-football-discussion/556105/17 "2010-10-06T18:35:53Z")
Under any other circumstances, I’d laugh at the idea of starting a wideout who was traded less than a week before kickoff to a team with a mediocre quarterback at best. On the other hand, it’s Randy Freakin’ Moss and your other options are no better. I’d roll the dice on Moss. He doesn’t need to know the playbook to run go routes. ETA: **Splines** , I withdraw my observation. You, sir, are a genius. What else did you give up? ---
**Author:** ![ReticulatingSplines](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e274bd/32.png) [@ReticulatingSplines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ReticulatingSplines)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-5-fantasy-football-discussion/556105/18 "2010-10-06T18:40:35Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > ETA: **Splines** , I withdraw my observation. You, sir, are a genius. What else did you give up? It was a 2 for 2, Manning and LeSean McCoy for Peterson/Johnson. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-5-fantasy-football-discussion/556105/19 "2010-10-06T18:42:00Z")
Okay, the _other_ guy is a doofus. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-5-fantasy-football-discussion/556105/20 "2010-10-06T18:43:04Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Under any other circumstances, I’d laugh at the idea of starting a wideout who was traded less than a week before kickoff to a team with a mediocre quarterback at best. > > On the other hand, it’s Randy Freakin’ Moss and your other options are no better. I’d roll the dice on Moss. He doesn’t need to know the playbook to run go routes. My boiggest worry with Moss is not so much he just got traded but that he wil be up against Darell Revis who is generally death to number one wideouts fantasy production. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-5-fantasy-football-discussion/556105.md?page=2)