# Week 9 CFB -- Which AP Top 25 team(s) will lose?

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [October 25, 2015, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-9-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/735743 "2015-10-25T18:46:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-9-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/735743/1 "2015-10-25T18:46:39Z")

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> **[NCAAF College Football Scores & Game Results - Yahoo Sports](https://sports.yahoo.com/college-football/scoreboard/?week=9&conf=)**
>
> Sports News, Scores, Fantasy Games

NCAAF Scores & Schedule

Top 25 FBS

Weeks: 9

— Thursday, October 29

7:00 PM EDT ESPN  
N. Carolina N. @ (23) Pittsburgh

7:30 PM EDT FS1  
West Virginia @ (5) TCU

— Saturday, October 31

12:00 PM EDT ESPN  
(19) Mississippi @ Auburn

7:00 PM EDT ESP2  
Vanderbilt @ (18) Houston

12:00 PM EDT ABC  
Syracuse @ (17) Florida St.

3:00 PM EDT PACN  
Colorado @ (24) UCLA

3:30 PM EDT ABC, ESP2  
(3) Clemson @ N.C. State

3:30 PM EDT FS1  
(14) Oklahoma @ Kansas

3:30 PM EDT ABC, ESP2  
Maryland @ (10) Iowa

3:30 PM EDT CBS  
Georgia @ (11) Florida

3:30 PM EDT ESPN  
(12) Oklahoma St. @ Texas Tech

7:00 PM EDT ESPU  
Miami (FL) @ (22) Duke

7:00 PM EDT ESPN  
(15) Michigan @ Minnesota

7:00 PM EDT PACN  
Oregon St. @ (13) Utah

7:00 PM EDT CBSS  
Tulane @ (16) Memphis

8:00 PM EDT ABC  
(9) Notre Dame @ (21) Temple — @@@

10:30 PM EDT ESPN  
(8) Stanford @ Washington St.

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> **[NCAA College Football Rankings: AP Top 25 Football Poll | AP News](https://apnews.com/hub/ap-top-25-college-football-poll)**
>
> Georgia, Michigan, TCU and Ohio State were the top four in the final Associated Press college football poll of the regular season.

The AP Top 25 Poll

Week 9

```auto

1 Ohio State Big Ten Record: 8-0 idle
2 Baylor Big 12 Record: 7-0 idle
3 Clemson ACC Record: 7-0 v
4 LSU SEC Record: 7-0 idle
5 TCU Big 12 Record: 7-0 v
6 Michigan State Big Ten Record: 8-0 idle
7 Alabama SEC Record: 7-1 idle
8 Stanford Pac-12 Record: 6-1 v
9 Notre Dame Division I FBS Independents Record: 6-1 @@@
10 Iowa Big Ten Record: 7-0 v
11 Florida SEC Record: 6-1 v
12 Oklahoma State Big 12 Record: 7-0 v
13 Utah Pac-12 Record: 6-1 v
14 Oklahoma Big 12 Record: 6-1 v
15 Michigan Big Ten Record: 5-2 v
16 Memphis The American Record: 7-0 v
17 Florida State ACC Record: 6-1 v
18 Houston The American Record: 7-0 v
19 Mississippi SEC Record: 6-2 v
20 Toledo Mid-American Record: 7-0 v
21 Temple The American Record: 7-0 @@@
22 Duke ACC Record: 6-1 v
23 Pittsburgh ACC Record: 6-1 v
24 UCLA Pac-12 Record: 5-2 v
25 Mississippi State SEC Record: 6-2 idle

```

Others receiving votes: Texas A&M 73, North Carolina 46, Southern Cal 33,  
BYU 18, Georgia 17, Wisconsin 15, Northwestern 10, Appalachian St. 6,  
California 5, Washington St. 2

Poll released: Oct 25

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@@@ = Two Top 25 teams are playing each other  
You must pick **one** to comply with these rules:

* * *

Scoring for this week’s poll is as follows:

1. Pick a team to LOSE and they LOSE – **+1 point**

2. Pick a team to LOSE and they WIN – **-1 point**

3. Fail to pick a LOSER in a game involving two Top 25 teams – **-1 point**  
(two Top 25 teams playing – one must lose)

4. Pick both teams to LOSE in a game involving two Top 25 teams – **-1 point**  
(two Top 25 teams playing – one must lose)

* * *

**Last WEEK’s thread/poll:**

> **[Week 8 CFB -- Which AP Top 25 team(s) will lose?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=772537)**
>
> ======================================================== NCAAF Scores & Schedule Top 25 FBS Weeks: 8 — Thursday, October 22 7:00 PM EDT ESP2 (22) Temple @ East Carolina 9:00 PM EDT ESPN (20) California @ UCLA — Friday, October 23 ...

Week 8 CFB – Which AP Top 25 team(s) will lose?  
10-18-2015, 01:44 PM  
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 12

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**Last YEAR Same WEEK’s thread/poll:**

> **[Week 9 CFB -- Which AP Top 25 team(s) will lose?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=737862)**
>
> Scoring for this week’s poll is as follows: Pick a team to LOSE and they LOSE – +1 point Pick a team to LOSE and they WIN – -1 point Fail to pick a LOSER in a game involving two Top 25 teams-- -1 point (two Top 25 teams playing – one must...

Week 9 CFB – Which AP Top 25 team(s) will lose?  
10-19-2014, 02:23 PM  
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 17

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-9-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/735743/2 "2015-10-25T19:18:08Z")

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\*\*\*\*\* CORRECTION TO POLL \*\*\*\*\*

(20) Toledo is IDLE this week! Sorry to have left that option available.

Any votes for Toledo to LOSE this week will be ignored. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2015, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-9-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/735743/3 "2015-10-27T13:25:33Z")

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Early Voting:

```auto

==============================================================================================================================================
                                                 @@@ @@@   
                              Clem TCU Stan NotDam Iowa Flor OKState Utah Okla Mich Memp FLSt Hous Missis Temp Duke Pitt UCLA
                              ================================================================================================================
basset hound 3 OKState Missis Temp
BobLibDem 2 NotDam Utah
Nauplius 2 Temp Pitt
Zeldar 3 Flor Temp Pitt
                              ================================================================================================================
                              Clem TCU Stan NotDam Iowa Flor OKState Utah Okla Mich Memp FLSt Hous Missis Temp Duke Pitt UCLA
                              ===================================================================================================================  
    4 10 0 0 0 1 0 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 3 0 2 0 /10
=================================================================================================================================================

```

Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 4

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**Author:** ![Zyanthia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Zyanthia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyanthia)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-9-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/735743/4 "2015-10-28T00:28:12Z")

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So, is the winner of a week allowed to trash talk the week following the week they won as long as they are willing to eat crow the next week when they fall back to the wayside where they belong?

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-9-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/735743/5 "2015-10-28T00:39:04Z")

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> [@Zyanthia](#):
>
> So, is the winner of a week allowed to trash talk the week following the week they won as long as they are willing to eat crow the next week when they fall back to the wayside where they belong?

No rules. Just right! Have at. What’s your trash? Oh, and congrats! 😃

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-9-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/735743/6 "2015-10-28T12:52:16Z")

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Update:

```auto

==============================================================================================================================================
                                                 @@@ @@@   
                              Clem TCU Stan NotDam Iowa Flor OKState Utah Okla Mich Memp FLSt Hous Missis Temp Duke Pitt UCLA
                              ================================================================================================================
basset hound 3 OKState Missis Temp
BobLibDem 2 NotDam Utah
DinoR 1 Temp
Nauplius 2 Temp Pitt
Oredigger77 1 Temp 
Zeldar 3 Flor Temp Pitt
Zyanthia 3 Okla Missis Temp
                              ================================================================================================================
                              Clem TCU Stan NotDam Iowa Flor OKState Utah Okla Mich Memp FLSt Hous Missis Temp Duke Pitt UCLA
                              ==================================================================================================================== 
    7 15 0 0 0 1 0 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 2 6 0 2 0 /15
==================================================================================================================================================

```

Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 7

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**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-9-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/735743/7 "2015-10-28T13:31:48Z")

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ND vs. Temple is the only matchup of ranked teams? Shaping up to be a boring college football weekend.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-9-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/735743/8 "2015-10-28T13:57:14Z")

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> [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](#):
>
> ND vs. Temple is the only matchup of ranked teams? Shaping up to be a boring college football weekend.

No argument from me! All I have set up to watch are some SEC rivalries.

But if you are guided by Jeff Sagarin ( [College Football Ratings Page](http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm) ) there’s a relative rare occurrence this week:

```auto

 
    Tennessee vs @Kentucky 83.14 71.03 12.11
(9) Notre Dame @ (21) Temple 89.18 77.07 12.11   

```

I’ve seen it where two teams had the exact same “Sagarin rating” but this is the first time I’ve seen the _differences_ in rating be the same! 🙂  
Of course, only the ND-Temple game is on our Top 25 list, so you have to be looking at other schedules to see that.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-9-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/735743/9 "2015-10-28T23:24:51Z")

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Going with Notre Dame to lose. And jumping on the slow week bandwagon. Florida/Georgia and Ole Miss/Auburn are probably the SEC games I’ll watch…

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-9-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/735743/10 "2015-10-29T13:03:33Z")

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Update:

```auto

==============================================================================================================================================
                                                 @@@ @@@   
                              Clem TCU Stan NotDam Iowa Flor OKState Utah Okla Mich Memp FLSt Hous Missis Temp Duke Pitt UCLA
                              ================================================================================================================
Barkis is Willin' 3 Flor Temp Pitt
basset hound 3 OKState Missis Temp
BobLibDem 2 NotDam Utah
dba Fred 2 Temp Pitt 
DinoR 1 Temp
Nauplius 2 Temp Pitt
Oakminster 1 NotDam
Oredigger77 1 Temp 
The Stainless Steel Rat 5 TCU Flor Memp FLSt Temp
Wolverine 2 Temp Duke
Zeldar 3 Flor Temp Pitt
Zyanthia 3 Okla Missis Temp
                              ================================================================================================================
                              Clem TCU Stan NotDam Iowa Flor OKState Utah Okla Mich Memp FLSt Hous Missis Temp Duke Pitt UCLA
                              ==================================================================================================================== 
    12 28 0 1 0 2 0 3 1 1 1 0 1 1 0 2 10 1 4 0 /28
==================================================================================================================================================

```

Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 12

**This poll will close on 10-29-2015 at 01:51 PM**

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**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-9-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/735743/11 "2015-10-29T14:59:01Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
>
> Going with Notre Dame to lose. And jumping on the slow week bandwagon. Florida/Georgia and Ole Miss/Auburn are probably the SEC games I’ll watch…

ND is undefeated all time in Halloween games!

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-9-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/735743/12 "2015-10-29T19:02:37Z")

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The Final Crosstable:

```auto

==============================================================================================================================================
                                                 @@@ @@@   
                              Clem TCU Stan NotDam Iowa Flor OKState Utah Okla Mich Memp FLSt Hous Missis Temp Duke Pitt UCLA
                              ================================================================================================================
Barkis is Willin' 3 Flor Temp Pitt
basset hound 3 OKState Missis Temp
BobLibDem 2 NotDam Utah
dba Fred 2 Temp Pitt 
DinoR 1 Temp
Nauplius 2 Temp Pitt
Oakminster 1 NotDam
Oredigger77 1 Temp 
The Stainless Steel Rat 5 TCU Flor Memp FLSt Temp
txtumbleweed 2 OKState Temp
Wolverine 2 Temp Duke
Zeldar 3 Flor Temp Pitt
Zyanthia 3 Okla Missis Temp
                              ================================================================================================================
                              Clem TCU Stan NotDam Iowa Flor OKState Utah Okla Mich Memp FLSt Hous Missis Temp Duke Pitt UCLA
                              ==================================================================================================================== 
    13 30 0 1 0 2 0 3 2 1 1 0 1 1 0 2 11 1 4 0 /30
==================================================================================================================================================

```

Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 13

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2015, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-9-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/735743/13 "2015-11-01T04:16:39Z")

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Final Scores – second set sorted:

```auto

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                                                 @@@ @@@   
                              Clem TCU Stan NotDam Iowa Flor OKState Utah Okla Mich Memp FLSt Hous Missis Temp Duke Pitt UCLA
                              ================================================================================================================
Barkis is Willin' +1/3 -1 +1 +1 
basset hound -1/3 -1 -1 +1 
BobLibDem -2/2 -1 -1 
dba Fred +2/2 +1 +1  
DinoR +1/1 +1 
Nauplius +2/2 +1 +1 
Oakminster -1/1 -1  
Oredigger77 +1/1 +1  
The Stainless Steel Rat -3/5 -1 -1 -1 -1 +1 
txtumbleweed 0/2 -1 +1 
Wolverine +2/2 +1 +1 
Zeldar +1/3 -1 +1 +1 
Zyanthia -1/3 -1 -1 +1 
                              ================================================================================================================
                              Clem TCU Stan NotDam Iowa Flor OKState Utah Okla Mich Memp -1 Hous Missis Temp Duke Pitt UCLA
                              ==================================================================================================================== 
    13 30 0 1 0 2 0 3 2 1 1 0 1 1 0 2 11 1 4 0 /30
==================================================================================================================================================

Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 13 

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```auto

==============================================================================================================================================
                                                 @@@ @@@   
                              Clem TCU Stan NotDam Iowa Flor OKState Utah Okla Mich Memp FLSt Hous Missis Temp Duke Pitt UCLA
                              ================================================================================================================
dba Fred +2/2 +1 +1  
Nauplius +2/2 +1 +1 
Wolverine +2/2 +1 +1 

DinoR +1/1 +1 
Oredigger77 +1/1 +1  
Barkis is Willin' +1/3 -1 +1 +1 
Zeldar +1/3 -1 +1 +1 

txtumbleweed 0/2 -1 +1 

Oakminster -1/1 -1  
basset hound -1/3 -1 -1 +1 
Zyanthia -1/3 -1 -1 +1 

BobLibDem -2/2 -1 -1 

The Stainless Steel Rat -3/5 -1 -1 -1 -1 +1 
                              ================================================================================================================
                              Clem TCU Stan NotDam Iowa Flor OKState Utah Okla Mich Memp -1 Hous Missis Temp Duke Pitt UCLA
                              ==================================================================================================================== 
    13 30 0 1 0 2 0 3 2 1 1 0 1 1 0 2 11 1 4 0 /30
==================================================================================================================================================

Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 13 

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```

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2015, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-9-cfb-which-ap-top-25-team-s-will-lose/735743/14 "2015-11-01T04:42:44Z")

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Cumulative Scores:

```auto

                        Total Week 1 Week 2 Week 3 Week 4 Week 5 Week 6 Week 7 Week 8 Week 9                        
                        ----- ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------
Nauplius +10/32 +1/3 +4/4 +1/5 +1/3 -1/5 +1/3 +1/5 0/2 +2/2  

RetroVertigo +7/13 +3/3 +3/3 0/4 +1/3            
Barkis is Willin' +7/38 0/1 +1/3 +3/5 +1/5 -1/5 0/4 +1/7 +1/5 +1/3   

Wolverine +6/30 +2/2 +1/3 +2/4 -2/4 +3/7 +2/2 -3/5 -1/1 +2/2    

jsc1953 +5/7 +2/4 +3/3        
bump +5/15 +2/4 +2/6 +1/5   

yellowjacketcoder +4/16 +2/4 +2/4 -1/5 +1/3      
         
tonyfop +3/5 +3/5     
basset hound +3/35 +3/3 -1/5 +1/3 +4/6 -3/5 0/6 0/4 -1/3    
 
USCDiver +2/26 0/6 +1/3 -3/7 +2/4 +2/6   
Oakminster +2/28 +1/3 -1/3 -2/4 +3/3 -1/(5) 0/2 +2/6 +1/1 -1/1  

Chingon +1/2 +1/2                                     
astorian +1/3 +1/3                           
BigAppleBucky +1/5 +1/5  
excavating (for a mind) +1/25 +1/5 +1/3 -1/5 +1/5 +1/3 -2/4
dba Fred +1/27 +2/4 0/4 -3/5 -1/3 +1/7 0/2 +2/2   

hende 0/1 0/1                                    
zoog 0/2 0/2                                     
russian heel 0/3 0/3
Jman 0/3 0/3
Apex Rogers 0/4 0/4
Sauron 0/4 0/4                  
Munch 0/12 +1/5 -1/7              

MadTheSwine -1/1 -1/1            
Death of Rats -1/17 -3/3 +1/5 -2/4 +3/5    
txtumbleweed -1/31 +3/3 +1/3 -3/5 -2/4 +1/5 -1/3 0/6 0/2  
Zeldar -1/37 +2/4 -1/3 -1/5 0/2 -2/6 +1/3 0/6 -1/5 +1/3    

justmeetee -2/1 -2/1  
Procrustus -2/1 -2/1     
Zyanthia -2/34 +1/3 0/4 +1/5 -1/3 -3/5 +1/3 -2/6 +2/2 -1/3  
 
Jackmannii -3/1 -3/1                                    
Omar Little -3/2 -3/2                           
Some Call Me... Tim -3/3 -3/3
DinoR -3/15 +1/5 -3/3 -2/6 +1/1 
JohnT -3/17 0/4 -1/3 +1/5 -3/5  
Oredigger77 -4/32 -1/3 0/4 0/4 +2/4 -1/5 0/4 -3/5 -2/2 +1/1 

Ranger Jeff -6/1 -6/1    

The Stainless Steel Rat-10/14 -1/3 -4/3 -2/3 -3/5     
 
BobLibDem -19/55 -9/9 -1/9 -1/7 -4/4 +2/6 -2/8 +2/6 -4/4 -2/2     

=====================================================================================================
Total Voters: 39
Week 1 Voters: 25
Week 2 Voters: 18
Week 3 Voters: 19
Week 4 Voters: 18
Week 5 Voters: 20
Week 6 Voters: 15
Week 7 Voters: 14
Week 8 Voters: 12
Week 9 Voters: 13
=====================================================================================================

```
