# Week 9 CFB -- Which AP Top Ten team(s) will lose? **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [October 20, 2013, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-9-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/671733 "2013-10-20T17:03:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2013, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-9-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/671733/1 "2013-10-20T17:03:37Z")
AP Top 25 1. Alabama 2. Oregon 3. Florida St. 4. Ohio St. 5. Missouri 6. Baylor 7. Miami (FL) 8. Stanford 9. Clemson 10. Texas Tech 11. Auburn 12. UCLA 13. LSU 14. Texas A&M 15. Fresno St. 16. Virginia Tech 17. Oklahoma 18. Louisville 19. Oklahoma St. 20. South Carolina 21. UCF 22. Wisconsin (idle) 23. Northern Illinois 24. Michigan (idle) 25. Nebraska Sun Oct 20, 2013 ================== ```auto ================================= College Football 2013 NCAA Division I-A Football Schedule - Week 9 Saturday, October 26 12:00 PM Wake Forest at (7) Miami (FL) 3:30 PM Tennessee at (1) Alabama 3:30 PM (9) Clemson at Maryland 3:30 PM North Carolina State at (3) Florida State 3:30 PM (10) Texas Tech at (17) Oklahoma 7:00 PM (12) UCLA at (2) Oregon 7:00 PM (20) South Carolina at (5) Missouri 7:00 PM (6) Baylor at Kansas 8:00 PM Penn State at (4) Ohio State 10:30 PM (8) Stanford at Oregon State ================================= ``` Poll on the way… ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2013, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-9-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/671733/2 "2013-10-21T14:54:27Z")
First listing: ```auto =============================================================== Alabama Oregon Florida St. Ohio St. Missouri Baylor Miami Stanford Clemson Texas Tech NONE ==================================================================================================== armedmonkey 1 Texas Tech astorian 1 Texas Tech Munch 4 Alabama Oregon Missouri Texas Tech Zeldar 3 Alabama Ohio St. Missouri ============= ==================================================================================================== 4 9 2 1 0 1 2 0 0 0 0 3 0 /9 =============================================================== ``` ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2013, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-9-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/671733/3 "2013-10-22T14:19:01Z")
Here’s how things are shaping up: ```auto =============================================================== Alabama Oregon Florida St. Ohio St. Missouri Baylor Miami Stanford Clemson Texas Tech NONE ========================================================================================== armedmonkey 1 Texas Tech astorian 1 Texas Tech Labrador Deceiver 1 Missouri markdash 1 Missouri Munch 4 Alabama Oregon Missouri Texas Tech Snowboarder Bo 3 Alabama Baylor Clemson Texas Tech willia4 3 Missouri Texas Tech Wolverine 3 Missouri Clemson Texas Tech Zakalwe 1 Texas Tech Zeldar 3 Alabama Ohio St. Missouri =================== =========================================================================================== 10 21 3 1 0 1 6 1 0 0 2 7 0 /21 =============================================================== ``` ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-9-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/671733/4 "2013-10-24T20:18:12Z")
I went with Missouri and Texas Tech. Just playing a hunch. And that usually doesn’t work out well for me. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-9-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/671733/5 "2013-10-24T20:31:13Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > I went with Missouri and Texas Tech. Just playing a hunch. And that usually doesn’t work out well for me. I thought about Missouri a bit, but I couldn’t pull the trigger. The Tigers are playing with a great deal of confidence and they’re at home. More importantly, on the Gamecocks side, Connor Shaw is injured and probably won’t play. A Steve Spurrier team without their starting quarterback is just not the same team. I can kinda see the pick, though. However, I’m floored that a few people think Tennessee is going to roll into Bama’s home field and knock off the Tide. That’s just nuts. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-9-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/671733/6 "2013-10-24T20:36:50Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > I went with Missouri and Texas Tech. Just playing a hunch. And that usually doesn’t work out well for me. Well, at least you’re not out there by yourself. 🙂 What’ll be neat is if Miami, FSU and Stanford get beat. Looks like nobody is going to hop out with the NONE option this time, though. Maybe I shouldn’t have jumped the gun on Bama: [Tennessee lumber store to Nick Saban: ‘Your next’ - Yahoo Sports](http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/tennessee-lumber-store-tells-nick-saban-next-180105298--ncaaf.html) ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-9-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/671733/7 "2013-10-24T21:02:03Z")
> [@Zeldar](#): > > What’ll be neat is if Miami, FSU and Stanford get beat. No, that would not be “neat”. :mad: I don’t care about Stanford, but FSU won’t lose and I need Miami to stay unbeaten until FSU clobbers them on 2 November. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2013, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-9-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/671733/8 "2013-10-25T12:59:56Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > No, that would not be “neat”. :mad: > > I don’t care about Stanford, but FSU won’t lose and I need Miami to stay unbeaten until FSU clobbers them on 2 November. Whatever’s right, **Snowboarder Bo**. All I meant was that those teams have yet to have anybody pick them to lose. Maybe that means something, I’m just not sure what. Anyway, here’s the current picture with another day to decide before the poll closes: ```auto =============================================================== Alabama Oregon Florida St. Ohio St. Missouri Baylor Miami Stanford Clemson Texas Tech NONE ========================================================================================== armedmonkey 1 Texas Tech astorian 1 Texas Tech Death of Rats 3 Oregon Missouri Texas Tech Labrador Deceiver 1 Missouri markdash 1 Missouri Munch 4 Alabama Oregon Missouri Texas Tech Oakminster 2 Missouri Texas Tech Snowboarder Bo 3 Alabama Baylor Clemson Texas Tech The Universe Lashes Out 2 Oregon Texas Tech willia4 3 Missouri Texas Tech Wolverine 3 Missouri Clemson Texas Tech Zakalwe 1 Texas Tech Zeldar 3 Alabama Ohio St. Missouri =================== =========================================================================================== 13 28 3 3 0 1 8 1 0 0 2 10 0 /28 =============================================================== ``` ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2013, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-9-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/671733/9 "2013-10-25T13:43:12Z")
You know, given your point methodology, the best strategy is to pick everybody every week. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2013, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-9-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/671733/10 "2013-10-25T14:01:10Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > You know, given your point methodology, the best strategy is to pick everybody every week. The method you refer to is the ongoing additional work by **armedmonkey** where nothing is deducted for wrong guesses. Is that the one you mean? What I’ve been doing is showing correct/total as a measure so that a 2/2 beats a 2/3. For instance, last week’s summary was shown in [this post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16773003&postcount=27) as ```auto =============================================================== Clemson Texas A&M Louisville UCLA ======================================= Munch 3/3 Clemson Texas A&M UCLA bump 2/2 Clemson UCLA LuckyNumber85 2/2 Clemson UCLA Oredigger77 2/2 Clemson UCLA Sterling Archer 2/2 Clemson UCLA Wolverine 2/2 Clemson UCLA Zakalwe 2/2 Clemson UCLA Zeldar 2/2 Clemson Texas A&M armedmonkey 2/(3) Texas A&M (UCLA) Jimmy Chitwood 1/1 Clemson R. P. McMurphy 1/1 UCLA RetroVertigo 1/1 Clemson Snowboarder Bo 1/1 Clemson astorian 1/(2) Louisville Labrador Deceiver 1/2 UCLA Oakminster 1/2 UCLA Accidental Martyr 0/1 Quintas 0/1 ======================================= 18 26/32 11 3 1 (11) /26 ``` ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2013, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-9-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/671733/11 "2013-10-25T14:51:43Z")
> [@Zeldar](#): > > The method you refer to is the ongoing additional work by **armedmonkey** where nothing is deducted for wrong guesses. Yep, and I did actually think about that flaw in the scoring, but just figured it would be more fun if the system encouraged people to go out on a limb. I’m also trusting people to play honest rather than try to “game” the system. Besides, if I deducted a point for each incorrect pick, I think too many of us would be in negative numbers 🙂 Anyway, since it was brought up, here’s how we are going in to week 9: End of week 8 totals. Cumulative scoring. No penalties for incorrect picks, 1pt awarded for each correct pick. 4 pts: **Oredigger77** 3 ps: \*\*armedmonkey, Labrador Deceiver, LuckyNumber85, Munch, Oakminster, Wolverine, Zakalwe \*\* 2 pts: **astorian, bump, Sterling Archer, Zeldar** 1 pt: **Fred Garvin, janeslogin, Jimmy Chitwood, jsc1953, R.P. Murphy, RetroVertigo, Snowboarder Bo** 0pts: **Accidental Martyr, basset hound, Chargerrich, death of rats, Duckster, furt, Johnny Bravo, NicorGasMan, Quintas, racer72, Rucksinator, skammer, Tazmanian Devil, The Universe Lashes Out,** And everybody play honest, it’s not like a cheerleader is going to walk across the thread with a giant check for you, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2013, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-9-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/671733/12 "2013-10-25T19:04:06Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > No, that would not be “neat”. :mad: > > I don’t care about Stanford, but FSU won’t lose and I need Miami to stay unbeaten until FSU clobbers them on 2 November. And for Florida to get their shit together quick! We need them for SoS. > [@Zeldar](#): > > The method you refer to is the ongoing additional work by **armedmonkey** where nothing is deducted for wrong guesses. Is that the one you mean? Yeah, sorry. I forgot that the season standings were being kept separately. > [@armedmonkey](#): > > And everybody play honest, it’s not like a cheerleader is going to walk across the thread with a giant check for you, anyway. Oh, I had no intention of starting to pick everybody, just thought about it and found it amusing. However, no cheerleader?!!! We wuz robbed!!! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2013, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-9-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/671733/13 "2013-10-25T20:01:49Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > However, no cheerleader?!!! We wuz robbed!!! 😉 Well, I’m a 39 year old heterosexual man with a beard, but I’m dead sexy. If you want to see me in cheerleader’s outfit, you’re going to have to buy me dinner first. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2013, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-9-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/671733/14 "2013-10-25T23:50:58Z")
> [@armedmonkey](#): > > Well, I’m a 39 year old heterosexual man with a beard, but I’m dead sexy. If you want to see me in cheerleader’s outfit, you’re going to have to buy me dinner first. Okay. You anywhere near Tallahassee, FL? Worth the price if you ask me\*… 😉 \*And I’m a 45 year old heterosexual male, but hey, fun is fun. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2013, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-9-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/671733/15 "2013-10-26T00:39:23Z")
I have an odd feeling that South Carolina is going to eat Missouri’s lunch. I’m also quietly hopeful for a Penn State win over Ohio State (then they’ll _have_ to put UCF in the top 10!) ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2013, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-9-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/671733/16 "2013-10-26T13:12:00Z")
Here’s the latest group, with right at four hours before the poll closes: ```auto =============================================================== Alabama Oregon Florida St. Ohio St. Missouri Baylor Miami Stanford Clemson Texas Tech NONE ========================================================================================== armedmonkey 1 Texas Tech astorian 1 Texas Tech chargerrich 1 Missouri Death of Rats 3 Oregon Missouri Texas Tech Labrador Deceiver 1 Missouri markdash 1 Missouri Munch 4 Alabama Oregon Missouri Texas Tech Oakminster 2 Missouri Texas Tech Really Not All That Bright 1 Missouri Rex Goliath 1 Missouri Snowboarder Bo 3 Alabama Baylor Texas Tech The Universe Lashes Out 2 Oregon Texas Tech willia4 3 Missouri Clemson Texas Tech Wolverine 3 Missouri Clemson Texas Tech yellowjacketcoder 2 Alabama Missouri Zakalwe 1 Texas Tech zamboniracer 1 NONE Zeldar 3 Alabama Ohio St. Missouri =================== =========================================================================================== 18 34 4 3 0 1 12 1 0 0 2 10 1 /34 =============================================================== ``` ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2013, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-9-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/671733/17 "2013-10-26T13:54:11Z")
Hey **SnowboarderBo** , check out today’s Tallahassee Democrat, they’ve got a bunch of Bowden stories and stuff from the dinner last night… Go 'Noles!!! ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2013, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-9-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/671733/18 "2013-10-26T14:09:00Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > Hey **SnowboarderBo** , check out today’s Tallahassee Democrat, they’ve got a bunch of Bowden stories and stuff from the dinner last night… > > Go 'Noles!!! > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > No, that would not be “neat”. :mad: > > I don’t care about Stanford, but FSU won’t lose and I need Miami to stay unbeaten until FSU clobbers them on 2 November. Hey, you guys! I’ll gladly trade a “pulling for FSU” (as if you need it) if y’all will pull for UT over Bama. I was pulling for the Noles anyway. 😉 ETA: Is it safe to say we’ll all be watching the Missouri game? ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2013, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-9-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/671733/19 "2013-10-26T16:14:20Z")
> [@Zeldar](#): > > Hey, you guys! I’ll gladly trade a “pulling for FSU” (as if you need it) if y’all will pull for UT over Bama. I was pulling for the Noles anyway. 😉 > > ETA: Is it safe to say we’ll all be watching the Missouri game? What the hell, I’ll give you a Rocky Top in a lost cause (sorry - they just ain’t got it for 'Bama this year). Oh you bet I’ll be watching the Old Ball Coach against the upstart Tigers. Should be the best game of the day - although I think Vandy/A&M is a dark horse. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2013, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-9-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/671733/20 "2013-10-26T17:10:01Z")
The finished array: ```auto =============================================================== Alabama Oregon Florida St. Ohio St. Missouri Baylor Miami Stanford Clemson Texas Tech NONE ========================================================================================== armedmonkey 1 Texas Tech astorian 1 Texas Tech chargerrich 1 Missouri Death of Rats 3 Oregon Missouri Texas Tech Labrador Deceiver 1 Missouri markdash 1 Missouri Munch 4 Alabama Oregon Missouri Texas Tech Oakminster 2 Missouri Texas Tech Oredigger77 1 NONE R. P. McMurphy 2 Missouri Texas Tech Really Not All That Bright 1 Missouri RetroVertigo 1 Texas Tech Rex Goliath 1 Missouri Snowboarder Bo 3 Alabama Baylor Texas Tech The Universe Lashes Out 2 Oregon Texas Tech willia4 3 Missouri Clemson Texas Tech Wolverine 3 Missouri Clemson Texas Tech yellowjacketcoder 2 Alabama Missouri Zakalwe 1 Texas Tech zamboniracer 1 NONE Zeldar 3 Alabama Ohio St. Missouri =================== =========================================================================================== 21 38 4 3 0 1 13 1 0 0 2 12 2 /38 =============================================================== ``` [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/week-9-cfb-which-ap-top-ten-team-s-will-lose/671733.md?page=2)