# Weekend Feud: US States and/or Geography (Game Over)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weekend-feud-us-states-and-or-geography-game-over/501128>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [June 27, 2009, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weekend-feud-us-states-and-or-geography-game-over/501128 "2009-06-27T01:32:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 4

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2009, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weekend-feud-us-states-and-or-geography-game-over/501128/61 "2009-06-28T13:45:09Z")

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Yes, That is 50 entries, I’ll get it scored soon. PM’s have been sent to Mods!

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2009, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weekend-feud-us-states-and-or-geography-game-over/501128/62 "2009-06-28T15:52:01Z")

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**Landlocked States**  
Arkansas 1  
Colorado 14  
Indiana 1  
Iowa 1  
Kansas 22  
Kentucky 1  
Missouri 3  
Nebraska 2  
Nevada 1  
Utah 1  
Wyoming 3

\*\*Rivers \*\*  
Brazos 1  
Chattahoochee 1  
Colombia 5  
Cuyahoga 2  
East 1  
Hudson 21  
Potomac 4  
Rio Grande 6  
Sacramento 2  
Snake 4  
Susquehanna 1  
Yellowstone 2

\*\*Non-Great Lakes \*\*  
Allatoona 1  
Champlain 10  
Clair 1  
Crater Lake 1  
Mead 6  
Minnetonka 1  
Okeechobee 6  
Placid 1  
Ponchartrain 4  
Success 1  
Tahoe 16  
Town Lake 1  
Washington 1

\*\*Borders few States \*\*  
Alaska 10  
Hawaii 25  
Maine 11  
Washington 4

\*\*Borders Many states \*\*  
California 1 :dubious:  
Colorado 4  
Indiana 2  
Kansas 1  
Kentucky 6  
Maine 1 :dubious:  
Missouri 11  
Nebraska 1  
New York 3  
Oklahoma 1  
Pennsylvania 1  
Tennessee 15  
Texas 2  
West Virginia 1

\*\*Eastern Skiing State \*\*  
Colorado 2 :dubious:  
Michigan 3  
New Hampshire 2  
New York 5  
North Carolina 1  
Pennsylvania 1  
Vermont 29  
Virginia 1  
Wisconsin 1

\*\*Cities with Famous Cuisine \*\*  
New Orleans 39  
Chicago 1  
Louisiana 2 :dubious:  
New York 6  
San Francisco 1  
Texas 1 :dubious:

\*\*States w/ No Natural Disasters \*\*  
Arizona 2  
Arkansas 1  
Delaware 1  
Hawaii 3  
Idaho 4  
Iowa 1  
Kentucky 4  
Maine 1  
Maryland 1  
Michigan 3  
Nevada 3  
New Hampshire 1  
New Jersey 3  
New Mexico 2  
New York 1  
Ohio 4  
Oregon 4  
Pennsylvania 1  
Rhode Island 1  
Tennessee 1  
Utah 2  
Vermont 1  
West Virginia 2  
Wisconsin 1  
Wyoming 2

\*\*States with No Pro-Sports Teams \*\*  
Alabama 1  
Alaska 8  
Connecticut 1  
Hawaii 4  
Idaho 3  
Iowa 3  
Maine 1  
Mississippi 3  
Montana 3  
Nevada 3  
New Hampshire 1  
New Mexico 1  
North Dakota 8  
Oregon 1  
Rhode Island 1  
South Dakota 2  
Virginia 1  
Wyoming 5

I was hoping someone might answer Detroit, even though it is not a state.

\*\*Borders Canada States \*\*  
Alaska 3  
Idaho 1  
Maine 5  
Michigan 7  
Minnesota 11  
Montana 4  
New York 7  
North Dakota 3  
Washington 9  
Standings in a few minutes…

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2009, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weekend-feud-us-states-and-or-geography-game-over/501128/63 "2009-06-28T16:01:00Z")

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Whoop! This looks promising…

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2009, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weekend-feud-us-states-and-or-geography-game-over/501128/64 "2009-06-28T16:03:06Z")

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And for the 2nd Feud in a Row, **Labtrash** wins. Congrats. Throws Confetti. Trumpets sounding. Finally some competition for Swampbear.

Labtrash had 9 out 10 number 1 answers: Missing Minnesota as the number one state bordeiring Canada. Perfect Score would have been 380.

1. labtrash 376
2. cmkeller 362
3. Kingspades 338
4. astorian 336
5. bmoak 334
6. swampbear 330
7. tumbleddown 326
8. ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness 324
9. notfrommensa 324
10. 

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Chronos 322

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11. 

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Fretful Porpentine 320

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12. 

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winterhawk11 318

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13. 

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AppallingGael 310

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14. 

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mikeargo 310

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15. 

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ArchiveGuy 298

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16. 

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Little Nemo 298

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17. 

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garygnu 296

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18. 

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Thing Fish 286

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19. 

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Poonther 272

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20. 

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Ataraxy 272

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21. 

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MadTheSwine 270

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22. 

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adhemar 270

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23. 

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PaperBlob 258

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24. 

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Monstera deliciosa 258

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25. 

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twickster 258

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26. 

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El_Kabong 254

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27. 

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kenner116 248

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28. 

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emjaya 244

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29. 

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freckafree 238

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30. 

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ShibbOleth 238

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31. 

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VanLandry 226

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32. 

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zamboniracer 224

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33. 

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Mahaloth 214

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34. 

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Uncle Brother Walker 214

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35. 

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Really Not All That Bright 206

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36. 

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Knorf 202

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37. 

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WormTheRed 200

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38. 

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NDP 194

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39. 

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Wolverine 192

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40. 

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gonzomax 184

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41. 

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Biggirl 182

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42. 

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BobLibDem 178

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43. 

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XWalrus2 174

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44. 

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AuntiePam 162

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45. 

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dwc1970 160

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46. 

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mkecane 160

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47. 

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kaylasdad99 160

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48. 

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jasonh300 144

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49. 

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MOIDALIZE 138

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50. 

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Tamex 108
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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2009, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weekend-feud-us-states-and-or-geography-game-over/501128/65 "2009-06-28T16:18:19Z")

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> [@Knorf](#):
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> 1. Nevada.
> 2. Snake River.
> 3. Lake Tahoe.
> 4. Alaska.
> 5. Tennessee.
> 6. Colorado.
> 7. New Orleans.
> 8. Idaho.
> 9. South Dakota.
> 10. Washington.

**Knorf** , I didn’t disqualify your entry, but Rebo probably would have. Please don’t add periods to your answers. It makes it hard to match them up with the other answers.

[RANT]

And there are some other posters who put a “space” after their answers. Please don’t do that either. It makes it doubly difficult to match because the space it is not obvious.

And there were some that put a technically correct spelling of “Hawai’i.” Things out of the ordinary just creates more work for the scorekeeper.

[/RANT]

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2009, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weekend-feud-us-states-and-or-geography-game-over/501128/66 "2009-06-28T16:26:02Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> 1. Kansas
> 2. Susquehanna
> 3. Lake Mead
> 4. Washington
> 5. Tennessee
> 6. Vermont
> 7. New Orleans
> 8. Wisconsin
> 9. North Dakota
> 10. Montana

These are answers that have a space at the end of it (except the answer to #10)

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2009, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weekend-feud-us-states-and-or-geography-game-over/501128/67 "2009-06-28T16:26:56Z")

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Nice win, **Labtrash**!

Still trying to figure out how Idaho is seen as a disaster free state, though. Don’t they get large forest fires, blizzards, earthquakes, floods and (probably) heat waves? Just because no one is there to experience them doesn’t mean that they don’t happen.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2009, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weekend-feud-us-states-and-or-geography-game-over/501128/68 "2009-06-28T16:59:23Z")

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> [@ShibbOleth](#):
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> Nice win, **Labtrash**!
> 
> Still trying to figure out how Idaho is seen as a disaster free state, though. Don’t they get large forest fires, blizzards, earthquakes, floods and (probably) heat waves? Just because no one is there to experience them doesn’t mean that they don’t happen.

I was surprised that there were 25 different responses for “Disaster Free” States. 25 out of 50. I think I have heard that New Mexico has the lowest insurance premiums for disasters.

States that didn’t make the list appeared to hurricane prone states (SE states bordering the gulf, or Atlantic Ocean) or earthquake prone states (Cal, Alaska, Missouri :p)

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**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2009, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weekend-feud-us-states-and-or-geography-game-over/501128/69 "2009-06-28T17:04:44Z")

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4 people said Ohio. They obviously think nothing of having to unearth their cars from 2 feet of snow.

Also, I find it interesting that more people chose Tennessee for the borders more states question instead of Kentucky. I figured it would be even.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2009, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weekend-feud-us-states-and-or-geography-game-over/501128/70 "2009-06-28T17:07:59Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> States that didn’t make the list appeared to hurricane prone states (SE states bordering the gulf, or Atlantic Ocean) or earthquake prone states (Cal, Alaska, Missouri :p)

And tornado prone states (Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, South and North Dakota)

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2009, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weekend-feud-us-states-and-or-geography-game-over/501128/71 "2009-06-28T17:11:20Z")

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> [@MOIDALIZE](#):
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> Also, I find it interesting that more people chose Tennessee for the borders more states question instead of Kentucky. I figured it would be even.

Tennessee and Missouri both border 8 other states. Kentucky borders 7.

TN:  
MO  
KY  
VA  
NC  
GA  
AL  
MS  
AR

MO:  
TN  
AR  
OK  
KS  
NE  
IO  
IL  
KY

KY:  
MO  
IL  
IN  
OH  
WV  
VA  
TN

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**Author:** ![Tamex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Tamex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamex)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2009, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weekend-feud-us-states-and-or-geography-game-over/501128/72 "2009-06-28T17:12:31Z")

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It was very hard for me to think of a disaster-free state, especially when blizzards and floods and heat waves are thrown in there. I wouldn’t have picked Idaho, for example, because I assumed they had earthquakes like Montana occasionally does. I almost picked Oregon, but then I remembered that little tsunami danger zone sign that I had seen when I visited there (the international symbol for “tsunami” is easy enough to understand–a huge wave with a little stick man in a futile run for his life.) That, and hello! Mt. Hood is a volcano! Assumed to be dormant, yes, but so was St. Helens long ago. I picked Ohio, but that was a total guess, since I’ve never been there. I wonder if there is truly a disaster-free state. I don’t think there is.

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**Author:** ![Labtrash](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/labtrash/32/528_2.png) [@Labtrash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labtrash)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2009, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weekend-feud-us-states-and-or-geography-game-over/501128/73 "2009-06-28T17:33:12Z")

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holy crap, 2 in a row?!?!

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2009, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weekend-feud-us-states-and-or-geography-game-over/501128/74 "2009-06-28T17:57:53Z")

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> [@MOIDALIZE](#):
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> 4 people said Ohio. They obviously think nothing of having to unearth their cars from 2 feet of snow.

Ohio can have extreme cold and snow in the winter, debilitating heat in the summer, gets hit by floods and has had at least a couple of incidences of horrific tornadoes. Oh, and they’re also on the New Madrid fault, although I never experienced any earthquakes there.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2009, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weekend-feud-us-states-and-or-geography-game-over/501128/75 "2009-06-28T18:13:25Z")

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I was thinking of my native Ohio for a bit, but figured the blizzards and occasional tornado were enough to disqualify it. Blizzards don’t make the news much since they tend not to cause much property damage, but they can result in significant loss of life. And I certainly wouldn’t have picked any state in the blast zone for Yellowstone. Sure, it hasn’t gone off… _yet_.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2009, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weekend-feud-us-states-and-or-geography-game-over/501128/76 "2009-06-28T18:29:58Z")

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I lost to the Worm. When he thinks of going south he goes to Alaska. he wont go to Minnesota because it is too warm.

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**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2009, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weekend-feud-us-states-and-or-geography-game-over/501128/77 "2009-06-28T18:41:41Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> Tennessee and Missouri both border 8 other states. Kentucky borders 7.

Why would I let that pesky fact get in the way of my otherwise sound theory?

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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2009, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weekend-feud-us-states-and-or-geography-game-over/501128/78 "2009-06-28T22:07:45Z")

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I’m sorry I missed this one!

I’m back, and I’ll run a new one tomorrow, unless someone is ready today.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2009, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weekend-feud-us-states-and-or-geography-game-over/501128/79 "2009-06-28T22:34:32Z")

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> [@Rebo](#):
>
> I’m sorry I missed this one!
> 
> I’m back, and I’ll run a new one tomorrow, unless someone is ready today.

The Feud must go on. Because we are the Feud, the Proud and the Strong.

Glad your back. I feel your pain when scoring.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2009, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weekend-feud-us-states-and-or-geography-game-over/501128/80 "2009-06-28T22:59:54Z")

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This has to have the lowest average scores ever.

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