# Weekly Comic Book Discussion 2/10/2005

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 10, 2005, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weekly-comic-book-discussion-2-10-2005/289392 "2005-02-10T14:03:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weekly-comic-book-discussion-2-10-2005/289392/21 "2005-02-11T01:28:39Z")

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> [@Selkie](#):
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> **The Vampire Brat, and Other Tales of the Supernatural** TPB. I had read snippets of Wolff and Bird, Counselors of the Macabre before, but this was the first time I was able to sit down and read a larger dose. For those unfamiliar with the series, it tells the stories of two law partners and their secretary who run a law office devoted to the legal needs of supernatural creatures (who are often thinly veiled analogues of popular superhero characters, such as the Hulk). The stories play the premise with a straight face, although they’re laced with plenty of light humor.
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> I greatly enjoyed this volume, moreso than when I’ve read similar stories in singles. Even though most of the stories are self-contained, it’s more fun in larger doses. Attorney Alanna Wolff is a terrific, strong female comics character, which I mention for the benefit of those who seek such characters out.

I’ve got 4 more volumes, & they are consistantly good. Nice drawn, albeit cartoony, & very well written. But used volumes or out of print ones are impossible to get, at reasonable prices. You’re competing against a lawyer’s pocketbook.  
☹  
BTW–here’s a bonus for GI Joe fans. Not work safe.

[http://www.supermegatopia.com/tmbgr/gallery/baroni.jpg](http://www.supermegatopia.com/tmbgr/gallery/baroni.jpg)

😃

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**Author:** ![dangergene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@dangergene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dangergene)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weekly-comic-book-discussion-2-10-2005/289392/22 "2005-02-11T01:40:00Z")

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damitall, comix were delayed this week cos of Lunar New Year holidays (but that meant a good two days off work! woohoo!). So I shan’t be getting anything till Sunday (so says the wife). _sniff_.

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**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weekly-comic-book-discussion-2-10-2005/289392/23 "2005-02-11T02:00:30Z")

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Speculative spoilers for **Young Avengers** :

Didn’t we see characters very similar to these in the first issue or two of Avengers Forever? They were, like, guards for the Rick Jones clone or something.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weekly-comic-book-discussion-2-10-2005/289392/24 "2005-02-11T02:11:49Z")

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> [@Revtim](#):
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> What’s the story behind the Hulkling?

The only thing we know so far is what’s spoiled already, and strong implication via dialogue that Iron Lad/Kang is the only one from the future, and that the other three are present-day people - implying that IL gave them their powers and stuff.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weekly-comic-book-discussion-2-10-2005/289392/25 "2005-02-11T02:27:31Z")

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I mean, who is he? I’m asking as one who hasn’t read any of these books. What are his powers? What does he look like? Is there a relation to Bruce Banner, like She-Hulk and Doc Sampson?

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**Author:** ![B.Serum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/b.serum/32/14266_2.png) [@B.Serum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/B.Serum)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weekly-comic-book-discussion-2-10-2005/289392/26 "2005-02-11T03:44:33Z")

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[For everyone who wants the scoop on Young Avengers but don’t want to buy it…](http://milehighcomics.com/firstlook/marvel/youngav1/cvrpage.html)

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weekly-comic-book-discussion-2-10-2005/289392/27 "2005-02-11T06:28:02Z")

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> [@Revtim](#):
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> I mean, who is he? I’m asking as one who hasn’t read any of these books. What are his powers? What does he look like? Is there a relation to Bruce Banner, like She-Hulk and Doc Sampson?

As yet unknown. Probably addressed in issue two. My guess from issue 1 is that he’s unrelated to any of the currently gamma-powered folks, and that Kang/Iron Lad chose him, and the others, for some particular reason - possibly foreknowledge of his future? Because I can’t imagine him gathering these people for such an important purpose and giving them their abilities and not having, at the very least, some kind of litmus test for skill and worthiness.

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**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weekly-comic-book-discussion-2-10-2005/289392/28 "2005-02-11T15:23:57Z")

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Given the way Hulkling is drawn and my experience with the excellent Jim Cheung (who’s pencilling this) I think Hulkling is a girl.

Read some more last night:

**Lucifer: Exodus** – I [heart] this comic. In fact, I love it so much that I’m crestfallen whenever I finish a TPB because I know it’s six months before I get to read any more. This volume reprints two arcs, “Brothers in Arms” and “Stitchglass Slide/Wire, Briar, Limber Lock.” “Brothers” appears at first blush to be a sort of comedy interlude, but it gets pretty intense by the surprising end, and it sets up a couple relationships that I know will be coming to a head before this is over. The second half is great – touching and funny as well as a successful instance of switching narrators around, and the last page introduces another characters that’s clearly going to play a role. The TPB skips **Lucifer #45** for space reasons; it will appear in the next volume. But I found a copy and it’s a pretty effective nearly-straight horror tale with art by the incomparable Ted Naifeh. And now I’ve finished Exodus and I have to wait another six months. **sigh**

**Gotham Central #28** – Not a bad issue. Now that Brubaker’s exclusive to Marvel I don’t know if this series is going to continue. I enjoy it, but I can’t see myself despondent if it goes away.

–Cliffy

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**Author:** ![paulberserker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@paulberserker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulberserker)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weekly-comic-book-discussion-2-10-2005/289392/29 "2005-02-11T15:35:01Z")

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Right, is the Lucifer:Exodus TPB number 6? I just finished reading TPBs 1 to 5 from the Library.  
I shall buy it tomorrow if it is. Also Vinamaranmana or what have you too.

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**Author:** ![shy\_guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@shy\_guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shy_guy)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weekly-comic-book-discussion-2-10-2005/289392/30 "2005-02-11T15:38:28Z")

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I decided just last weekend that I was going to quit buying single issues for the most part (I’ll still buy a few books, like Legion of Super-Heroes since the stories appear to be self-contained - and it’s awesmoe - and Sonic the Hedgehog, since it doesn’t get collected into trades) to concetrate on trades and manga.

So no new books this week. I did, however, pick up the first _Invincible_ trade. What a great book! I’ll probably be picking up the second volume this weekend.

Of course, all that said, Cliffy has me intrigued by this Vimanarama thing.

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**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weekly-comic-book-discussion-2-10-2005/289392/31 "2005-02-11T16:11:53Z")

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I dig Invincible, **shy**. I’m reading it in TPB as well and so far it only gets better. I assume Vimanarama will make it into a trade at some point. In the back of my head I have this hope that they’ll collect it in a flip-book with We3 like they did last year with the Eillis minis (assuming of course that it doesn’t collapse in later issues – something I don’t fear). Even though I’ll have all the issues, I’d buy five of those suckers.

**paul** , Exodus is vol. 7. Vol. 6 is **Mansions of the Silence**. Some rather important events happen near the end of Mansions upon which the events in Exodus (the first half, anyway) rather substantially depend.

–Cliffy

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**Author:** ![paulberserker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@paulberserker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulberserker)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weekly-comic-book-discussion-2-10-2005/289392/32 "2005-02-11T16:18:20Z")

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Gotcha. I’ll buy both of them then.

My Librarys got a real hard on for vertigo DC stuff, but they only tend to buy the first few of the TPB series. I’m waiting for them to get vols 6 & 7 of 100 Bullets, everything after vol 2 of Powers and the Y:The Last Man stuff after 3.

Complete Sandman Library & Preacher though. Confusingly, they only have vols 7,8,9 of the Los Bros Love & Rockets stuff. It is free though, so what more do I want?

Cheers.

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**Author:** ![Fiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e274bd/32.png) [@Fiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiver)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weekly-comic-book-discussion-2-10-2005/289392/33 "2005-02-11T16:26:37Z")

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> [@CandidGamera](#):
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> Fables - love the focus on Jack this issue. I wonder what his grander scheme is…

I have a guess, or a surmise. Spoiler-boxed for those who haven’t read this issue yet:

[spoiler]Jack mentioned he’ll be killing the Big Bad Wolf in the third movie. We’ve learned from past issues that the various fables are powerful and vital or not based on how popular they are among the Mundys. Or at least, many fables believe this to be true.

Snow White, for example, was presumed to have been able to recover from a gunshot wound to the head because she’s such a famous and beloved character.

So, I’m betting Jack is trying to raise his profile in the Mundy world and thus gain power of some sort among his fellow fables.[/spoiler]

I don’t know where he got all his money from, though. Was that explained? And what story is Jill from?

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weekly-comic-book-discussion-2-10-2005/289392/34 "2005-02-11T16:39:18Z")

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> [@Fiver](#):
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> I don’t know where he got all his money from, though. Was that explained? And what story is Jill from?

Your supposition makes sense…

I think he stole the cash from one of Bluebeard’s treasure rooms, or some such… check the previous couple of issues, Charming is informed of some missing cash…

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