# Weekly Comic Book Discussion 3/17/2005 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 17, 2005, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weekly-comic-book-discussion-3-17-2005/294913 "2005-03-17T02:31:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weekly-comic-book-discussion-3-17-2005/294913/21 "2005-03-19T00:22:40Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > I’m not convinced, but one thing that leads me to believe Thor IS indeed crazy is the fact he EXPECTS everyone to believe him, despite how looney his story sounds. A truly sane person would be saying “Look, I don’t expect you to believe this without proof…give me some time and we can find evidence.” Thor is saying “Wait! Can’t you see! It has to be Loki! He’s changed the past!” > That sounds like something a lunatic fanatic would say. On the other hand, if he is a Norse god, he just might be arrogant enough, and out of touch enough with mortal mindframes, to think that the truth is so _obvious_ that to NOT believe him is lunacy. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weekly-comic-book-discussion-3-17-2005/294913/22 "2005-03-19T01:36:58Z")
There is, of course, a quick way to determine the result. Take off the breastplate, shown to be part of the ‘power armor’. If still superstrong, then Loki is screwing around. Invincible #19 or so. Good, but transitional. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weekly-comic-book-discussion-3-17-2005/294913/23 "2005-03-19T04:18:07Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > On the other hand, if he is a Norse god, he just might be arrogant enough, and out of touch enough with mortal mindframes, to think that the truth is so _obvious_ that to NOT believe him is lunacy. That would be in character for the mainstream Marvel Thor, but this particular Thor seems to exude folk-wisdom like some superpowered mix of Che Guevera and Rousseau. It’s only when the topic of the Norse gods and his own divinity come up that he seems to totally change character and talk in a different tone. To me, that suggests insanity. Of course, it’s a freaking comic book 😃 so who the hell knows? I just wish, for once, they would go with the resolution that DOES make sense, even if it’s disappointing, and make him a looney toon. ---
**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2005, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weekly-comic-book-discussion-3-17-2005/294913/24 "2005-03-20T00:36:55Z")
**Adventurers of Superman** : cute. I mean Lara was cute. The rest of the issue I could have lived without. **Teen Titans** : very cool. **Menocchio** beat me to the quote which was awesome. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2005, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weekly-comic-book-discussion-3-17-2005/294913/25 "2005-03-20T04:12:10Z")
_Ultimates 2_: I believe that Thor **is** telling the truth. This story arc, the archvillian is Loki. _Ultimate Nightmare_: Vision is the new “herald”? I know they mentioned Ultron previously with Hank Pym. They could have kept vision with Ultron. Captain America with an assault rifle is wrong. I’ve missed about a decade and a half (or more) on Cap’s development, but… _Captain America #1_: Yeah, like we’ve seen the last of him. _Space Ghost_: Nice to see him becoming more heroic. Looking forward to the end and to the end of _The Question_ _Teen Titans_: Good stuff. Very good. And I never much liked the group. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2005, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weekly-comic-book-discussion-3-17-2005/294913/26 "2005-03-20T04:26:43Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > _Ultimate Nightmare_: Vision is the new “herald”? I know they mentioned Ultron previously with Hank Pym. They could have kept vision with Ultron. Captain America with an assault rifle is wrong. I’ve missed about a decade and a half (or more) on Cap’s development, but… Did you miss the part where the Ultimate universe is totally separate from the mainstream Marvel universe and the characters in it are not the same people? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weekly-comic-book-discussion-3-17-2005/294913.md?page=1)