# Weinstein accuser accused of sexually assaulting a minor

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weinstein-accuser-accused-of-sexually-assaulting-a-minor/819900>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [August 20, 2018, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weinstein-accuser-accused-of-sexually-assaulting-a-minor/819900 "2018-08-20T02:50:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weinstein-accuser-accused-of-sexually-assaulting-a-minor/819900/61 "2018-08-21T11:26:50Z")

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> [@UnwittingAmericans](#):
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> #MeToo won’t survive this. It took about 4 months longer than I expected.
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> Winners: Due process and therefore (sigh) Trump.

Luckily feminism, which is a hell of a lot older and sturdier than any hashtag, will totally survive this, and also sexual assault will continue to be against the law. Which is the important thing

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**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weinstein-accuser-accused-of-sexually-assaulting-a-minor/819900/62 "2018-08-21T11:31:04Z")

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> [@Itchy\_Toe](#):
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> Pretty much everything. Ugly tats was banging some French dude, Anthony Bourdain found out about it, and instead of throwing her ass out, decided he’s had enough. Ugly tats is the victim here, though. Poundmetoo and all.

I see where not yet in the Pit, so I’ll just observe that [Anthony Bourdain suffered from depression](https://metro.co.uk/2018/06/09/anthony-bourdain-opened-battle-depression-parts-unknown-feel-isolated-7618541/) and therefore your ugly assertion is wholly without fact or merit, and not worth the electricity used to beam it into our faces.

Do better next time

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**Author:** ![Itchy\_Toe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dec6dc/32.png) [@Itchy\_Toe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Itchy_Toe)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weinstein-accuser-accused-of-sexually-assaulting-a-minor/819900/63 "2018-08-21T11:34:22Z")

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> [@UnwittingAmericans](#):
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> #MeToo won’t survive this. It took about 4 months longer than I expected.
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> Winners: Due process and therefore (sigh) Trump.

Poundmetoo thing is hilarious. It’s like every other week we find out that its biggest stars are rapists, wife beaters, sexual predators, and simply scum. Watching the subsequent reaction is priceless:" sure, she cucked her boyfriend to death, but internet bullies are mean to her, therefore… victim!"  
The amount of insane rationalization for the vilest behavior by poundmetooers is amazing.

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**Author:** ![Itchy\_Toe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dec6dc/32.png) [@Itchy\_Toe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Itchy_Toe)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weinstein-accuser-accused-of-sexually-assaulting-a-minor/819900/64 "2018-08-21T11:37:55Z")

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> [@Aspidistra](#):
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> I see where not yet in the Pit, so I’ll just observe that [Anthony Bourdain suffered from depression](https://metro.co.uk/2018/06/09/anthony-bourdain-opened-battle-depression-parts-unknown-feel-isolated-7618541/) and therefore your ugly assertion is wholly without fact or merit, and not worth the electricity used to beam it into our faces.
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> Do better next time

And just like that, the insane rationalization arrives…  
The guy finds out his girlfriend was banging some other dude, hangs himself, but ya know… no facts or merit here! No, sirree!

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**Author:** ![Itchy\_Toe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dec6dc/32.png) [@Itchy\_Toe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Itchy_Toe)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weinstein-accuser-accused-of-sexually-assaulting-a-minor/819900/65 "2018-08-21T11:41:51Z")

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Coming up next: long-winded and tortured explanations on how exactly ugly tats sleeping around had nothing to do with Antony Bourdain finding out about it and hanging himself 5 days later.

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**Author:** ![Itchy\_Toe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dec6dc/32.png) [@Itchy\_Toe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Itchy_Toe)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weinstein-accuser-accused-of-sexually-assaulting-a-minor/819900/66 "2018-08-21T11:46:44Z")

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Ugly tats apparenly tried to contain the damage, but the interwebs being what it is, Antony found out anyway

“When Argento realized she and Clément had been photographed, she asked Barillari to delete the shots, he said.”

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weinstein-accuser-accused-of-sexually-assaulting-a-minor/819900/67 "2018-08-21T11:51:58Z")

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A victim in one case can be a perpetrator in another case. The one doesn’t cancel out the other.

You can’t “cuck someone to death.”

What exactly are you trying to suggest by writing “poundmetoo”? That victims are asking for it?

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**Author:** ![Itchy\_Toe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dec6dc/32.png) [@Itchy\_Toe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Itchy_Toe)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weinstein-accuser-accused-of-sexually-assaulting-a-minor/819900/68 "2018-08-21T11:59:44Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> You can’t "cuck someone to death

That’s what I thought as well, but ugly tats killed Antony Bourdain as sure as Eric Schneiderman liked to slap the bejeesus out of his progressive and enlightened feminist girlfriends.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weinstein-accuser-accused-of-sexually-assaulting-a-minor/819900/69 "2018-08-21T12:03:01Z")

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Can’t someone be both victim and predator?

As an example, for child abuse my understanding was most (though not all) child abusers grew up in an abusive home.

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**Author:** ![Itchy\_Toe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dec6dc/32.png) [@Itchy\_Toe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Itchy_Toe)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weinstein-accuser-accused-of-sexually-assaulting-a-minor/819900/70 "2018-08-21T12:04:28Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> What exactly are you trying to suggest by writing “poundmetoo”? That victims are asking for it?

I just find it funny, that’s all. And so far, the real victim here is Antony Bourdain. He was cucked by a poundmetooer and checked out.

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**Author:** ![UnwittingAmericans](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/d9b06d/32.png) [@UnwittingAmericans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UnwittingAmericans)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weinstein-accuser-accused-of-sexually-assaulting-a-minor/819900/71 "2018-08-21T12:09:30Z")

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> [@Aspidistra](#):
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> Luckily feminism, which is a hell of a lot older and sturdier than any hashtag, will totally survive this, and also sexual assault will continue to be against the law. Which is the important thing

Agree.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weinstein-accuser-accused-of-sexually-assaulting-a-minor/819900/72 "2018-08-21T12:14:20Z")

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This shows the strength of the broader movement, not any weaknesses – the overwhelming response to this by #MeToo supporters has been condemnation of the abuse of a teenage boy.

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**Author:** ![Itchy\_Toe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dec6dc/32.png) [@Itchy\_Toe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Itchy_Toe)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weinstein-accuser-accused-of-sexually-assaulting-a-minor/819900/73 "2018-08-21T12:17:56Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> This shows the strength of the broader movement, not any weaknesses

Right. War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.  
Poundmetoo hasn’t been this strong since our boy Eric used his strong and progressive girlfriends as punching bags.

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**Author:** ![UnwittingAmericans](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/d9b06d/32.png) [@UnwittingAmericans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UnwittingAmericans)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weinstein-accuser-accused-of-sexually-assaulting-a-minor/819900/74 "2018-08-21T12:36:20Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> This shows the strength of the broader movement, not any weaknesses – the overwhelming response to this by #MeToo supporters has been condemnation of the abuse of a teenage boy.

It’s not a movement, it’s a hashtag, like #onedirection.

Live by the pitchfork, die by the pitchfork.

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**Author:** ![Itchy\_Toe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dec6dc/32.png) [@Itchy\_Toe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Itchy_Toe)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weinstein-accuser-accused-of-sexually-assaulting-a-minor/819900/75 "2018-08-21T12:45:55Z")

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And now it looks like ugly tats was grooming that boy for rape since he was 7 years old. Poundmetoo just got a whole buncha stronger!

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**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weinstein-accuser-accused-of-sexually-assaulting-a-minor/819900/76 "2018-08-21T12:51:16Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> How would you feel if you were working in a business and you found that the only people who got good jobs were those who were willing to have sex with the boss? Even if they were doing it voluntarily?
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> Do you feel that your unwillingness to have sex with your boss should be a factor in holding you back from success in your chosen profession?
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> Do you feel that there should be different standards based on whether the employees and bosses in question are men or women?
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> If you were the owner of a company, how would you feel if the person you hired to manage your company was making business decisions based on whether or not your employees were offering sex?

All these questions are irrelevant to the issue at hand. You’re suggesting a societal issue that would have negative impacts on some people. OK. What I’m discussing is whether an individual person who is offered sex for favors is guilty of sexual assault. Nothing you’ve written has any bearing at all on that.

> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> This shows the strength of the broader movement, not any weaknesses – the overwhelming response to this by #MeToo supporters has been condemnation of the abuse of a teenage boy.

See posts #34 & #39.

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**Author:** ![Itchy\_Toe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dec6dc/32.png) [@Itchy\_Toe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Itchy_Toe)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weinstein-accuser-accused-of-sexually-assaulting-a-minor/819900/77 "2018-08-21T12:59:30Z")

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[This](https://mobile.twitter.com/AsiaArgento/status/332562877682683905?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E332562877682683905&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2Ftwitter.min.html%23332562877682683905)is what ugly tats tweeted the evening before she raped that boy. Why is she not in jail yet? Hasn’t she ruined enough lives? Poundmetoo strong!!

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**Author:** ![a\_dudes\_thought\_s](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7ea924/32.png) [@a\_dudes\_thought\_s](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a_dudes_thought_s)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weinstein-accuser-accused-of-sexually-assaulting-a-minor/819900/78 "2018-08-21T13:02:50Z")

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I did not care for the me too movement at first,but it seems like a good thing now as a lot of dirt is coming into the light. That she is a hypocrite does not shock me to be honest.I would not be surprised if more woman who who complained about him have skeletons in their closets. With that being said I feel cheated. Why can’t I have been that 17 year old dude getting my brains screwed out by a hot 32 year old woman when I was that age. Dude when I got older I would have been like hey baby you better give me some more of that lovin or I will report you to the media.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weinstein-accuser-accused-of-sexually-assaulting-a-minor/819900/79 "2018-08-21T13:10:29Z")

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> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#):
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> See posts #34 & #39.

Done. And…?

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weinstein-accuser-accused-of-sexually-assaulting-a-minor/819900/80 "2018-08-21T13:14:13Z")

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> [@Itchy\_Toe](#):
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> I have no idea who this person is or why she is famous. The only thing google tells me is Weinstein jerked off in front of her and she has shitty tattoos.

Bye bye, troll.

I’ve deleted the rest of your posts but am leaving this one here because it received a substantive response.

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