So was I. That’s exactly what I have, i.e. keyless ignition (key fob stays in pocket) without remote-start capability.
Are you sure that’s not possible? My car (Infiniti Q50) allows this. The rules of operation are thus:
-if the key fob is outside the car, then I can lock the car any way I want: close an unlocked door then lock it from the inside[sup]*[/sup] or outside (using the key fob or the door buttons), or close an already-locked door. I sometimes do exit the car, key in pocket, and use the button on the outside of the door to lock the door.
-if the key fob is inside the car, then I can’t lock the door from the outside (using the button on the outside of the door). Also, if I close an already-locked door, the car unlocks that door and beeps at me several times.
*This of course requires another occupant in the car to either push the mechanical lock button on the inside of the door, or push the electrical lock rocker switch.
Yes, this is the same on my car. However, if the car is running, the door will not lock from the outside, either with the fob or with the button on the handle. To be honest, I don’t know what would happen if I tried to lock it with the button on the inside of the door and then close the door, but I suspect it would unlock as soon as I closed the door (I may have tried it at some point).
Now that you (kinda) mentioned it, an occupant inside the car, may be able to lock it from the interior while it’s running, doors closed, fob outside, but I don’t know. I can test that but leaving a window open and putting the fob a few feet away.
Now watch, y’all, as I set the alarm off when I re-enter the vehicle. Fun fact, if lock the doors with the fob and someone (like my sister) tells my daughter to unlock them from the inside, the alarm goes off and everyone panics in a crowded parking lot (my parking lot, being watching on a camera on my phone that I parked under). IOW, if they’re locked from the outside, they have to be unlocked from the outside, it’s meant to make sure someone doesn’t reach in or break a window and unlock them.
More or less the same here. At least if the car is off.
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Now, I have to admit it’s been a long time since I played with locking the car while it’s running. I’m quite sure, but will test again, that I cannot use the fob or button on the handle to lock it while it’s running. But I’m interested to see if I can use the rocker switch on the door (inside) to lock it. With the door open, then closing it as well as having an occupant doing it (I’ll just use an open window). I may have tested those scenarios, but if I did, it wasn’t in my current car, it was at least one car, maybe two back.
Also for anyone keeping track. These are all Hondas.
I played with it quickly when I got to work. The only way to lock the door while it’s running, is with the interior rocker switch, period.
Engine on, window rolled down:
Open door:
-Key fob, nothing
-Door button, nothing
-Rocker switch, nothing
Now this is where it gets interesting. I’m now technically locked out of my car. The key fob will not unlock the doors. That seems really strange to me, almost an oversight on the part of the engineers. However, I can still open the trunk, not with the button on the fob, but just by being near it, as I always can. Technically I could I could push the back seats down and crawl in that way. But only because in this car the lever to release them happens to be in the trunk.
At this point, ignoring the open window and the trunk, the only way to enter the car was with the key blade hidden inside the fob. IME a lot of people have no idea that’s there. I’ve shown many people…on their own fob. As in they’ll say ‘mine doesn’t do that’ and I’ve had them hand me their fob and pulled the blade out that they had no idea, after years of having it, that it existed.
So, I don’t like that. That someone (or a pet) sitting in the car can lock out the person holding the key fob in their hand. For all the supposed protective reasons that were spoken about earlier, this seems like an oversight.
I’m going to tell myself that this technology is still in it’s infancy and there’s enough iterations that they just didn’t test these ones and/or fixing these combinations/permutations caused other things not to work.
But still I had my first Smart Key for about a week when I realized I couldn’t lock the running car and this issue “locked out” of it with the “key” in my hand wasn’t hard to A)find and B)find that the trunk was open. I use scare quotes because of the key blade thing.
Which means you can re-create my bro’s cool signature move with his Camry:
Drive to airport. Be on phone while parking so not really paying attention. Jump out of car, get luggage, and push lock button on fob in pocket while walking away. Come back 3 days later and wonder why car will crank fine but not light off. Eventually notice what had been 3/4ths of a tank of gas is now well below E. :smack:
I kinda wondered if that was the reason (walking away while it’s running) but, at least on my car, as soon as you close the door while it’s running it lets out a handful of pretty audible beeps to alert you that something is wrong. Also, since you can’t lock it, you don’t get the single, not as loud, beep to let you it’s locked. Unless you regularly walk away from your running car, this would be out of the ordinary.
Maybe we should just go back to separate keys for the ignition and the door lock and I can go back to keeping them on opposite sides of break apart key rings.