# WEIRD little boys!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-little-boys/121016>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [July 26, 2002, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-little-boys/121016 "2002-07-26T22:16:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rhubarb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/59ef9b/32.png) [@Rhubarb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhubarb)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2002, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-little-boys/121016/21 "2002-07-27T06:02:13Z")

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**SuperKarlene**

A.

SEQUINED.

PURPLE.

TUTU.

:eek:  
ROFLMAO

Does anyone remember Graham Kerr, The Galloping Gourmet? It seems I watched an awful lot of that as a wee tot. In my defense, it was the late 60’s, we lived about 8 miles east of BFE and got 2 2/3 TV stations. That means 2 all the time and 2 when the weather was just right.

[hijack]  
Norm Abrams is not IT. I could make a $200 Adirondack chair if I had $20,000 worth of tools, too. The guy I admire is the one on The WoodWright’s Shop. He makes furniture **without power tools!!** He even makes his own boards from scratch. THIS is a carpenter!  
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… we now return to our regularly scheduled discussion.

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**Author:** ![Dijon\_Warlock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a9a28c/32.png) [@Dijon\_Warlock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dijon_Warlock)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2002, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-little-boys/121016/22 "2002-07-27T07:21:19Z")

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Man, I thought this was going to be the partner thread to the one Guin started about the creepy Ebay auctions…:eek:

Yeah, the hippy guy was Bob Ross. “Odorless paint thinner,” my eye. You don’t get _that_ mellow huffing the odorless stuff. 😉 The fascinating thing about watching him was seeing him do a painting from start to finish right in front of you. The way it looked, he was slopping paint on every which way, but it (nearly) always came out looking amazingly good. His seascapes were a particular favorite of mine. They still show him around here; he usually has one of his pet baby squirrels in his pocket.

The guy on the Woodwright’s Shop is Roy Underhill, who such a big doofus you gotta love him. I read a quote from one of his books excerpted in a Reader’s Digest (waiting in the doc’s office) once that had me snickering all afternoon. He was going on about how resistant cypress wood was to moisture and rot, and tossed out something like “A coffin made of cypress would last a lifetime.” Huh!?

Graham Kerr and Julia Child did a joint presentation for “Festival” on PBS a few years ago that was hysterical. Graham was cooking low-fat and healthy, whilst Julia was going full-blown French-style with butter and cream galore. They spent the majority of the time razzing each other about their cooking styles, and trying to crack each other up. Julia is the Goddess of the Kitchen. Her shows with Jacques Pepin are superb.

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**Author:** ![Dijon\_Warlock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a9a28c/32.png) [@Dijon\_Warlock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dijon_Warlock)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2002, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-little-boys/121016/23 "2002-07-27T07:28:02Z")

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Since I wandered through here, my beef with PBS:

Roger Swain is no longer on the Victory Garden!! That so totally bites. The man was New England Rusticity all the way. The new guy comes across as all citified. He even wears _slacks_!! Just doesn’t work for me. And where is Chef Marian!? Now we get gourmet chefs from big city hoity-toity restaurants! Yeah, like I’m gonna slap _that_ together in my kitchen. Never again shall we see Holly Shimizu’s toothy smile, nor Adrain Bloom’s nipples. The show is doomed.

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2002, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-little-boys/121016/24 "2002-07-27T12:40:53Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Kamandi \*  
> \*\*It’s _The New Yankee Workshop_, you troglodytes.
> 
> Norm Abram is indeed the Second Coming. Bow down with me and worship the mighty Biscuit Joiner! \*\*

My father TAPES these shows, both the Yankee Workshop and the Woodwright. He was absolutely delighted when I managed to find a book on old woodworking techniques.

My daughter has been watching cooking shows since she was a preteen. When my husband tried to butcher the deer that he’d bagged, she shoved him over and cut it up herself, very neatly. She’s turned into a darn fine cook, too.

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**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2002, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-little-boys/121016/25 "2002-07-27T13:14:27Z")

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Somewhere in the vast pile that I laughingly call a videotape collection I have a bunch of the Woodwright shows on tape. It was…uh…research yeah, that’s the ticket…for a series of stories I was writing which was set in a low-tech culture and had a woodworker as one of the major characters. I got a kick out of things like the lathe powered by a sapling.

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**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2002, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-little-boys/121016/26 "2002-07-27T13:19:23Z")

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Bob Ross, feh. I always preferred [Bill Alexander](http://www.alexanderart.com/ItemFrames.asp?ItemType=About) .

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**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2002, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-little-boys/121016/27 "2002-07-27T13:22:03Z")

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My ex-wife used to regularly inform me that she wished she were married to Norm Abram. She shut up about it when I started telling her that I wished it even more than she.

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**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2002, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-little-boys/121016/28 "2002-07-27T14:29:11Z")

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The lathe! Oh, how I love the lathe! Had to start many projects over from getting a little too lathe-happy and wrecking my spinny wood! [sub]I don’t own my own lathe _cry_[/sub]

I was also raised on PBS _and_ TV Ontario! TVO had cool stuff like a British art program called “Vision On” that was often quite surreal and they also had a couple cartoons on around supper time like “Fables of the Green Forest” and the stop animation “Jeremy”. On Thursdays… DOCTOR WHO!!! [sub]No wonder I’m brain damaged…[/sub]

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**Author:** ![SUPERKARLENE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/22d042/32.png) [@SUPERKARLENE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SUPERKARLENE)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2002, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-little-boys/121016/29 "2002-07-27T16:39:18Z")

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EEEP! Maybe I should’ve called this thread **PBS Anonymous**  
instead. 😃

_That drugged out Hippie guy is DEAD?!_ Hmmm.

Idea: perhaps Walt Disney didn’t die. Maybe he grew an Afro and got a facelift, and became Bob Ross instead. 😉

Based on some of these responses, it seems like little kids are especially susceptible to the throes of PBS. Wonder why that is?

I USED TO LOVE DARIA! What did MTv ever do to her show? I watched a movie of her’s a while back, but then wasn’t able to watch the new episodes. For a while, that was the top-rated show on MTv. 🆒

Before the Osbournes, that is. It’s one of my major vices, but I have to admit to a slight addiction to the Osbournes. Feel sorry for Sharon now, though. ☹

No bizarre babysitting experiences? I guess babysitting has gone the way of the highway - a sacrifice to the daycare gods.

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**Author:** ![3waygeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/e95f7d/32.png) [@3waygeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/3waygeek)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2002, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-little-boys/121016/30 "2002-07-27T20:07:39Z")

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> \*Originally posted by SUPERKARLENE \*  
> \*\*I USED TO LOVE DARIA! What did MTv ever do to her show? I watched a movie of her’s a while back, but then wasn’t able to watch the new episodes. For a while, that was the top-rated show on MTv. 🆒  
> \*\*

Daria ended its original run on MTV this January, after 5 seasons. However, [The N](http://www.the-n.com), a digital cable/satellite network run by Nickelodeon and the Children’s Television Workshop, is running Daria every night at 10PM ET.

Unfortunately, they’re butchering the episodes, editing out much of the stronger language, as well as almost every reference to sex (the N is geared toward “tweens”, and they’re not supposed to know about such things).

For more than any sane person would want to know about Daria, get thee to [Outpost Daria](http://www.outpost-daria.com).

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**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2002, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-little-boys/121016/31 "2002-07-27T20:55:31Z")

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> \*Originally posted by SUPERKARLENE \*  
> \*\*And go even further back - where are Sally Struthers and Jean Stapleton from _All in the Family_? Sally, I know, briefly slipped into infomercial-dom. :eek:
> 
> Jean Stapleton disappeared though. Are she and Norm hanging out on a desert island somewhere? \*\*

What is it with the SDMB and Jean Stapleton? I’m sure this is not the first time I’ve had to point out that she is very much alive and well and still acting. She regularly appears in movies (_Michael_, _You’ve Got Mail_), on T.V. (_Everybody Loves Raymond_, _Touched By An Angel_), and on stage (she had a very successful one-woman show about Eleanor Roosevelt).

Last year she appeared in the movie _Pursuit of Happiness_ and the T.V. movie _Like Mother, Like Son_ with Mary Tyler Moore. Last _week_ she was appearing onstage in [The Carpetbagger’s Children](http://www.hartfordstage.org/2002-2003/showpages/01_carpetbaggers/carpet_summer.htm) in Hartford, CT.

Earlier this year, Sally Struthers had a recurring role on _General Hospital_.

Sorry, I just get frustrated when people assume that an actor who doesn’t have a regular weekly T.V. series has dropped off the face of the earth.

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**Author:** ![imthjckaz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/imthjckaz/32/3223_2.png) [@imthjckaz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/imthjckaz)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2002, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-little-boys/121016/32 "2002-07-27T21:14:41Z")

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Norm Abram is my idol.

Other than the glasses , I have patterned myself after him.

He is the real reason Bob Vila left ‘_This Old House_’.

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**Author:** ![SUPERKARLENE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/22d042/32.png) [@SUPERKARLENE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SUPERKARLENE)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2002, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-little-boys/121016/33 "2002-07-28T00:13:45Z")

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Thanks for the info, SpoilerVirgin.

At least now I know that Jean hasn’t gone the way of Carroll O’Connor! :eek:

What did Norm Abram do?

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**Author:** ![Kamandi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5daacb/32.png) [@Kamandi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamandi)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2002, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-little-boys/121016/34 "2002-07-29T16:38:21Z")

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> \*Originally posted by SUPERKARLENE \*  
> \*\*What did Norm Abram do? \*\*

[Norm Abram](http://www.woodmagazine.com/hallfame/wsoabram.htm) is the host of [The New Yankee Workshop](http://www.newyankee.com/) and is the “master carpenter” / co-host of [This Old House](http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/thisoldhouse/home.html).

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**Author:** ![screech-owl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@screech-owl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/screech-owl)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2002, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-little-boys/121016/35 "2002-07-29T17:07:39Z")

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For all you tool freaks, [Merry Christmas](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000005C3F/qid%3D1027961644/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/103-6058182-9903810)!!

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**Author:** ![Speaker\_for\_the\_Dead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@Speaker\_for\_the\_Dead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Speaker_for_the_Dead)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2002, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-little-boys/121016/36 "2002-07-29T17:12:20Z")

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If you’re in Canada, Gundam Wing is still on on YTV. Or at least was until very recently.

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2002, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-little-boys/121016/37 "2002-07-29T17:33:21Z")

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> \*Originally posted by SUPERKARLENE \*  
> \*\*I have some _bizarre_ babysitting experiences that I felt like sharing. 😃  
> I ran up the stairs, threw open the door, and demanded “WHAT HAPPENED?”
> 
> The little one looked at me, and said “We just found out that I can’t make my foot go **behind** my head!”
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> :smack:
> 
> They’re sweet little boys. Just had too much free time, though. \*\*

Since I shared a room with my slightly older brother I thought I might explain this.

The older one was surely involved with some how trying to force the foot behind the younger ones head. Then while you were running up the stairs the older one jumped back in bed and threatened the other with much more pain if he squealed.

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**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2002, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-little-boys/121016/38 "2002-07-29T17:38:34Z")

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> Does anyone remember Graham Kerr, The Galloping Gourmet? It seems I watched an awful lot of that as a wee tot. In my defense, it was the late 60’s, we lived about 8 miles east of BFE and got 2 2/3 TV stations. That means 2 all the time and 2 when the weather was just right.

He’s got a new show now (or did a few years ago) called Graham Kerr’s Kitchen, and it was all about cooking healthily; quite the departure from his earlier program.

A quick google on him ([www.grahamkerr.com](http://www.grahamkerr.com)) says he’s got a new program slated for this fall, “The Gathering Place.”

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**Author:** ![SUPERKARLENE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/22d042/32.png) [@SUPERKARLENE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SUPERKARLENE)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2002, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-little-boys/121016/39 "2002-07-29T20:15:00Z")

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> The older one was surely involved with some how trying to force the foot behind the younger ones head.

Man, did you get **that** right on the nose! :eek:

After questioning Mitch as to _why_ he chose to make his foot go behind his neck, he said that dear older brother thought it would be a good idea. I took C.J.‘s Star Wars book away (for an avid reader/SciFi fan that he is, that’s a terrible punishment). I like to encourage reading as much as the next person, but this kid doesn’t have **that** many Achilles’ heels.

When the parents got home, I told them what happened. They thought it was hilarious! :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Wildcatz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eada6e/32.png) [@Wildcatz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildcatz)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2002, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-little-boys/121016/40 "2002-07-29T22:35:22Z")

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> Any of y’all out there got your own babysitting horror stories to share?

I used to babysit a little boy named Damien. He desperately tried to live up to his moniker.

'nuff said? _grin_

'catz

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