# Weird sexual behavior at work -- how concerned should we be? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [December 7, 2001, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-sexual-behavior-at-work-how-concerned-should-we-be/97329 "2001-12-07T00:06:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Mephisto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/48db29/32.png) [@Mephisto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mephisto)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2002, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-sexual-behavior-at-work-how-concerned-should-we-be/97329/21 "2002-03-11T12:52:46Z")
You know, I kind of agree with the opinion that the janitor closet-cum-sex dungeon or whatever it is sounds kind of contrived. This sounds like something me and some of my friends might pull to screw with the boss . . . sort of, anyway. But, if this guy or girl or couple or group in there really is crazy, might it not be a kinder solution to find the perp(s) in question and get them to the company shrink (assuming you have something like that where you work) or something? Which isn’t to say the price of the locks shouldn’t be withheld from your friendly neighborhood psychotic’s paycheck (can you get away with that?), and that you shouldn’t issue a very stern warning, but I’d hate to think of somebody getting fired for a stupid joke and/or a mental illness . . . IMHO, of course . . . And I realize I’m not there confronted with the teddy and chains . . . and I’m also up way past my bedtime so my thinking isn’t the best at the moment, but still . . . . I was working toward a point here–damn! I guess just realize that things aren’t always what they seem and don’t overreact whatever the truth turns out to be. ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2002, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-sexual-behavior-at-work-how-concerned-should-we-be/97329/22 "2002-03-11T15:56:37Z")
Well you may want to consider that more than one person or one couple are using the room. Perhaps one person is an aspiring erotic artist. Another person just wants to take a nap at work. You didn’t describe the knife but a pocket knife would be common among factory workers and losing one would not be uncommon. The fingerprints looked like blood but if I’m not mistaken AuntiePam you are not a M.E. so it may be something else or the person may have cut themselves for some non-sexual reason. The chains and step ladder may be totally un-related. Did you find handcuffs? The teddy is harder to explain but may have been worn into work and then abandoned because they were ridding up or brought in to change into latter and then left there for some reason. Tinfoil? When I was kid and had to take medicine at school my mom would wrap the pills in foil for me to carry in my pocket. Someone may have taken mirgraine meds and laid down for a nap. You described the drawings as ‘dirty’. Please be more specific. Are they nudes? Do they depict sex acts? Are the people in the drawings adults? Could you post them? Please? ---
**Author:** ![Blackclaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e68b1a/32.png) [@Blackclaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackclaw)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2002, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-sexual-behavior-at-work-how-concerned-should-we-be/97329/23 "2002-03-11T16:10:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Kyomara \* > \*\* > > Oops. > > But c’mon! It was an easy mistake to make. Besides, a teddy BEAR would make for a much cooler movie set. And I’d certainly want one in MY fantasy dungeon. \*\* Great. Now I have the image of a scantily clad dominatrix whipping a small teddy bear that has been chained to the wall. What’s worse is… I like it. ---
**Author:** ![cornflakes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9d8465/32.png) [@cornflakes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cornflakes)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2002, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-sexual-behavior-at-work-how-concerned-should-we-be/97329/24 "2002-03-11T16:43:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Zenster \* > \*\*If the room is supposed to be secured and normally off limits to all unauthorized employees, set up a hidden camera and find out who is doing this. As said by others, this is a potential legal time bomb and the possible liabilities are tremendous. \*\* Ditto. You’re in business to make money, and this can only be a liability. Film it and fire 'em. Put it permanently to bed and get back to your business. ---
**Author:** ![Gravity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gravity/32/14322_2.png) [@Gravity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gravity)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2002, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-sexual-behavior-at-work-how-concerned-should-we-be/97329/25 "2002-03-11T17:20:25Z")
Wow, I missed this thread the first time around, but this person sounds really abberant. I would be _very_ uncomfortable working someplace where this was happening. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Carter_of_Mars)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2002, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-sexual-behavior-at-work-how-concerned-should-we-be/97329/26 "2002-03-12T01:24:37Z")
In case this is still an issue: I’m not a lawyer. What I am is a “middle manager” with the Federal Government. As such, I’ve been to mandatory training on sexual harrassment issues quarterly for nearly ten years now. **Reality Chuck** is correct. All you need is ONE employee to state to an equal opportunity review board that this situation makes them sexually uncomfortable at work. Any supervisory person that is aware of this situation and fails to take corrective action is considered just as guilty as the person committing these acts. That aside, this person could be dangerous. As has already been pointed out, how would you feel if someone is physically harmed after no action was taken? IMHO, the union would not get involved in supporting/protecting the person that is doing this. Knives and chains at work? I would think that rather the union would insist on this person’s removal, as a possible threat to other members. Let us know how this comes or came out, please. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2002, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-sexual-behavior-at-work-how-concerned-should-we-be/97329/27 "2002-03-12T01:39:35Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Zebra \* > \*\*Well you may want to consider that more than one person or one couple are using the room. > > Perhaps one person is an aspiring erotic artist. > > Another person just wants to take a nap at work. > > You didn’t describe the knife but a pocket knife would be common among factory workers and losing one would not be uncommon. > > The fingerprints looked like blood but if I’m not mistaken AuntiePam you are not a M.E. so it may be something else or the person may have cut themselves for some non-sexual reason. > > The chains and step ladder may be totally un-related. Did you find handcuffs? > > The teddy is harder to explain but may have been worn into work and then abandoned because they were ridding up or brought in to change into latter and then left there for some reason. > > Tinfoil? When I was kid and had to take medicine at school my mom would wrap the pills in foil for me to carry in my pocket. Someone may have taken mirgraine meds and laid down for a nap. > > You described the drawings as ‘dirty’. Please be more specific. Are they nudes? Do they depict sex acts? Are the people in the drawings adults? Could you post them? Please? \*\* I guess you’re trying to be funny. If so, you’re succeeding, because you’ve made me think of **BronzeLion** and his “doctors” in “empty conference rooms”. Seriously, though, **Pam** , whoever is using the room is probably doing so after hours. Who has the ability to get into the building when it’s otherwise closed? It might be a security person. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![sunacres](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@sunacres](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sunacres)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2002, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-sexual-behavior-at-work-how-concerned-should-we-be/97329/28 "2002-03-12T01:54:16Z")
Watch out for workplace masturbators. All kinds off nasty problems can develop: [http://www.snopes2.com/sex/penile/scrotum.htm](http://www.snopes2.com/sex/penile/scrotum.htm) ---
**Author:** ![David\_Simmons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9de053/32.png) [@David\_Simmons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_Simmons)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2002, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-sexual-behavior-at-work-how-concerned-should-we-be/97329/29 "2002-03-12T15:14:31Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by AuntiePam \* > \*\*But we have about 2000 employees. \*\* A company with 2000 employees probably has a legal department or a law firm on retainer. What do they say? ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2002, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-sexual-behavior-at-work-how-concerned-should-we-be/97329/30 "2002-03-12T15:55:48Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Blackclaw \* > \*\* > > Great. Now I have the image of a scantily clad dominatrix whipping a small teddy bear that has been chained to the wall. What’s worse is… I like it. \*\* I’m picturing Snuggles, the Fabric Softener Bear. ---
**Author:** ![MONTY2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/53a042/32.png) [@MONTY2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MONTY2)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2002, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-sexual-behavior-at-work-how-concerned-should-we-be/97329/31 "2002-03-12T17:52:35Z")
I wish I could remember the specifics but your story reminds me of an episode of Unsolved Mysteries. Someone found evidence similar to yours at work, (a small blood stain, a piece of ripped clothing, etc.) on a few occasions but he thought it was just someone having sex at work and didn’t make a big deal about it. As it turned out, someone was torturing and killing prostitutes at work. I’ll try and look it up, but I watched it a long time ago and I have no clue where to even begin looking. Not that I think one of your employees it killing people on the premises, but the hidden camera sounds like a good idea either way. ---
**Author:** ![Badge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Badge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Badge)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2002, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-sexual-behavior-at-work-how-concerned-should-we-be/97329/32 "2002-03-13T05:02:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by AuntiePam \* > \*\*The plant nurse thinks we should be very worried. She says this sounds to her like sexual psychopathy. She’s particularly concerned that he has continued to use the room despite being found out once before – he gets off on the danger of possibly being caught. > > The operations manager isn’t convinced that this kind of behavior would ever affect anyone but the man who’s doing it. > > I think we should ask an expert – someone in law enforcement or someone at the sexual assault center. > \*\* I agree with the plant nurse. This could be the work of a sexual sadist, as the scene definitely sounds like a scripted fantasy set-up. This person may not yet be acting out against real victims, but he may be working himself up to it. Don’t take a chance. Get someone to do a proper investigation and identify who is doing this. If it is someone just pulling a prank, no big deal. But if it isn’t, this person needs to be identified immediately. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-sexual-behavior-at-work-how-concerned-should-we-be/97329.md?page=1)