# Weird showbiz conspiracies/theories **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, movies\ **Created:** [March 11, 2024, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-showbiz-conspiracies-theories/998699 "2024-03-11T11:12:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-showbiz-conspiracies-theories/998699/81 "2024-03-15T03:19:05Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > This was most commonly rumored about Rod Stewart So I can’t actually remember who this rumor was we spread this rumor about, but I’m fairly sure it wasn’t him. By the early 90s (my teenage years) he was firmly “mum rock” no one was imagining him taking part in deviant sexual orgies;) ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-showbiz-conspiracies-theories/998699/82 "2024-03-15T03:26:33Z")
> [@dirtball](#): > > The band took a vow of silence because you sell more records that way. It happened with Klaatu, as well. A radio DJ (in, I think, Rhode Island) started wondering whether Klaatu was a reunion of the Beatles. After all, lyrics and music were credited to Klaatu, their first album was produced by Klaatu, no names or photos of the band members appeared anywhere, and the music sounded like the Sgt. Pepper/White Album Beatles. The rumour spread. The band promptly shut up, and didn’t fully identify themselves until their fourth album. They turned out to be three guys from Toronto. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-showbiz-conspiracies-theories/998699/83 "2024-03-15T05:17:28Z")
That rumor, about Rod Stewart anyway, was from the 1970s. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 8:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-showbiz-conspiracies-theories/998699/84 "2024-03-15T08:52:09Z")
> [@griffin1977](#): > > So I can’t actually remember who this rumor was we spread this rumor about, but I’m fairly sure it wasn’t him. The point is that your rumor in the 1990s was recycled from one from the 1970s about Rod Stewart. “On the shoulders of giants” and all that… ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-showbiz-conspiracies-theories/998699/85 "2024-03-15T09:32:59Z")
> [@griffin1977](#): > > So I can’t actually remember who this rumor was we spread this rumor about, but I’m fairly sure it wasn’t him. By the early 90s (my teenage years) he was firmly “mum rock” no one was imagining him taking part in deviant sexual orgies;) According to [Snopes](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/rock-star-stomach-pump/) this gets applied to different celebrities frequently, so in your era that may have been Jon Bon Jovi, which does sound familiar to me. ---
**Author:** ![Author\_Balk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Author\_Balk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Author_Balk)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-showbiz-conspiracies-theories/998699/86 "2024-03-15T11:01:29Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > The Christian rock band Petra deliberately put a backwards message in one of their songs that said, “Why are you looking for the devil, when you should be looking for the Lord?” Styx was accused of putting a backwards message in the song Snowblind. On their next album, Kilroy Was Here, they put a real backwards message. It was: “annuit cœptis, novus ordo seclorum" which is on the back of the dollar bill. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-showbiz-conspiracies-theories/998699/87 "2024-03-15T12:09:20Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > The 1939 version of The Wizard of Oz has a whole host of rumors associated with it, including the image of an actor who played a Munchkin who committed suicide by hanging himself from a tree in the background. The facts about this incident are sort of lost in a maelstrom of other rumors about the production. The official story is that a large crane (bird) was loose on the set and that’s all that is seen. Books have been written about the rumors and legends associated with that film, including an alleged little person orgy. This is because people usually watch the film on a TV screen. In the theatre, it’s clearly a crane. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-showbiz-conspiracies-theories/998699/88 "2024-03-15T13:41:51Z")
> [@DocCathode](#): > > Studio heads hid the fact that Rock Hudson was gay for decades. There are a lot of rumors of hidden homosexuality in old Hollywood. Cary Grant lived in a “bachelor pad” with Randolph Scott, and apparently were quite close. > **[Cary Grant and Randolph Scott’s Hollywood Story: “Our Souls Did Touch”](https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/cary-grant-randolph-scott-hollywood-story)** > > Hedda Hopper once asked of Grant, “Whom does he think he is fooling?” The star’s bond with Scott has been the subject of nearly a century of speculation, but the truth about their impact on each other’s lives has been hiding in plain sight. Greta Garbo is another star oft considered gay. > **[Greta Garbo, the “Furious Lesbian,” and a Classic Hollywood Love Triangle](https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2023/09/greta-garbo-lois-banner)** > > In this exclusive excerpt from her new biography of the silent star, author Lois Banner explores the period in the early 1930s when Garbo was entangled with both the acting coach Salka Viertel and the glamorous writer Mercedes de Acosta. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-showbiz-conspiracies-theories/998699/89 "2024-03-15T13:45:23Z")
In this vein, the Beatles had a song called, I believe, “Number 9” and, when you played it backwards, it supposedly said, “Turn me on, dead man.” ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-showbiz-conspiracies-theories/998699/90 "2024-03-15T14:04:16Z")
Some people think Pink Floyd wrote _The Dark Side of the Moon_ to sync with the film The Wizard of Oz. It even has a name: [The Dark Side of the Rainbow](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Side_of_the_Rainbow). ---
**Author:** ![sciurophobic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@sciurophobic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sciurophobic)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-showbiz-conspiracies-theories/998699/91 "2024-03-15T15:41:02Z")
There’s an old rumor about Danny Thomas and glass coffee tables. It was discussed on this board back in 2012. [Origin of the Danny Kaye “glass coffee table” story?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/origin-of-the-danny-kaye-glass-coffee-table-story/616642) ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-showbiz-conspiracies-theories/998699/92 "2024-03-15T15:43:55Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > According to [Snopes](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/rock-star-stomach-pump/) this gets applied to different celebrities frequently, so in your era that may have been Jon Bon Jovi, which does sound familiar to me Yeah that seems to ring a bell. Still amazed I believed it though, even as a dumb teenager with no experience of such things 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-showbiz-conspiracies-theories/998699/93 "2024-03-15T15:53:30Z")
There’s a persistent rumor that the five main characters in _Scooby-Doo_ are meant to represent the Five Colleges of Massachusetts: Fred: Amherst Daphne: Mt. Holyoke Velma: Smith Shaggy: Hampshire Scooby: UMass > **[Do Scooby Doo Characters Represent Colleges in Eastern US?](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/scooby-doo-what-is-you/)** > > Do the five characters in Scooby-Doo represent five Eastern colleges? ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-showbiz-conspiracies-theories/998699/94 "2024-03-15T15:58:23Z")
> [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](#): > > Daphne: Mt. Holyoke Colleges were the source of the name of one of the characters in Thundarr The Barbarian. Ookla The Mok= UCLA, Mount Holyoke College. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-showbiz-conspiracies-theories/998699/95 "2024-03-15T16:28:38Z")
Soundgaren did put “Satanic” messages on a song. Cornell says things like “Satan is my master. Satan is king.” and then ends it with " I LOVE ya Satan, baby!" It’s pretty funny. ---
**Author:** ![dorvann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@dorvann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dorvann)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-showbiz-conspiracies-theories/998699/96 "2024-03-15T17:14:52Z")
There is always the theory that the novel The Wizard of OZ was some sort of allegory about the Populist movement in the U.S. in the 1890s. Discussed by The MASTER here: [https://www.straightdope.com/21341539/is-em-the-wizard-of-oz-em-a-satire-of-the-french-revolution](https://www.straightdope.com/21341539/is-em-the-wizard-of-oz-em-a-satire-of-the-french-revolution) ---
**Author:** ![furryman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/furryman/32/99_2.png) [@furryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furryman)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-showbiz-conspiracies-theories/998699/97 "2024-03-15T18:07:22Z")
How about an urban legend started by a celebrity. Lucille Ball claimed that she could hear radio transmissions coming from her fillings. ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-showbiz-conspiracies-theories/998699/98 "2024-03-15T18:11:46Z")
I’ve seen stories claiming that she found spies during WWII when she picked up people speaking a language other than English. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-showbiz-conspiracies-theories/998699/99 "2024-03-15T18:21:55Z")
> [@zimaane](#): > > There is the odd theory that Paul McCartney died in 1966 and has been portrayed by a look a like for the last five-plus decades. They’ve been doing much better with the John Lennon is Dead thing for the past 44 years. Not trying to use a clone or lookalike helps. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-showbiz-conspiracies-theories/998699/100 "2024-03-15T19:44:15Z")
> [@sciurophobic](#): > > There’s an old rumor about Danny Thomas and glass coffee tables. It was discussed on this board back in 2012. > > [Origin of the Danny Kaye “glass coffee table” story?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/origin-of-the-danny-kaye-glass-coffee-table-story/616642) That link tracks to a thread that links to another false rumor: that silent screen actress Clara Bow fucked the entire USC football team. > **[Clara Bow and the USC Football Team](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/clara-bow-peep/)** > > Did actress Clara Bow service the entire USC football team at orgies? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-showbiz-conspiracies-theories/998699.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-showbiz-conspiracies-theories/998699.md?page=6)