# Weird showbiz conspiracies/theories

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-showbiz-conspiracies-theories/998699>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, movies\
**Created:** [March 11, 2024, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-showbiz-conspiracies-theories/998699 "2024-03-11T11:12:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-showbiz-conspiracies-theories/998699/101 "2024-03-15T20:12:28Z")

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> false rumor: that silent screen actress Clara Bow fucked the entire USC football team.

There was a rumor that Barbara Streisand appeared in a porn film where her costar was a dog. When someone told me about it in the 1980s, I laughed at them and told them it was a crazy rumor.

He showed me a few stills from the movie, which he had seen. Yes, the male star was a German Shepherd. Yes, his female costar had a striking resemblance to Barbara Streisand. But no, after close review, it was not her.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-showbiz-conspiracies-theories/998699/102 "2024-03-15T20:38:33Z")

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Maybe the porn actress really was Barbara Streisand, but certainly not _Barbra_ Streisand. 😉

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
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> [@EinsteinsHund](#):
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> _Barbra_

Hah! Yeah, this actress looked like Ms Streisand, but actually her nose was considerably bigger (Not that Barbra has a tiny honker).

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**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-showbiz-conspiracies-theories/998699/104 "2024-03-15T21:02:41Z")

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> [@mbh](#):
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> Hollywood is controlled by the  
> Jews

This one has not a kernel, but an entire silo of truth to it. All of the major studios and theater chains, without exception, were founded in the early 20th century by recently emigrated Jews, and they retained nearly complete control of the business for most of the rest of the century.

I don’t have details of the current breakdown of Hollywood execs, but even so, I have little doubt that Jews are still over-represented there.

I’ve been reading _An Empire of Their Own, How the Jews Invented Hollywood,_ about this very subject. It’s 35 years old, but I recommend it.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-showbiz-conspiracies-theories/998699/105 "2024-03-15T21:21:39Z")

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> [@commasense](#):
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> All of the major studios and theater chains, without exception, were founded in the early 20th century by recently emigrated Jews, and they retained nearly complete control of the business for most of the rest of the century.

**the jews** - How does this work? Did all the Jews in the world elect those guys to control Hollywood? Do the rest of the Jews have any say in running Hollywood or did they give over complete control to a few studio owners? Can the Jews replace those people who control Hollywood? If not, how are all the Jews responsible for control of Hollywood?

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-showbiz-conspiracies-theories/998699/106 "2024-03-15T21:35:30Z")

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If we want to get into the area of stars doing porn, there was a rumor that between his career as a mediocre baseball player and a mediocre actor, Chuck Connors did a gay sailor porn flick called something like _Gobs on Shore Leave_. Connors soon graduated to respectable TV roles and set out to get back and destroy all the copies of the film. So the story goes, he managed to get the master and most of the prints, but **of course** a handful survived and were passed around for years.

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**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-showbiz-conspiracies-theories/998699/107 "2024-03-15T21:36:05Z")

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Yep, we have meetings every Sunday morning while the goyim are in church, and work it all out. I can’t tell you how much easier Zoom has made it. In the early days the long distance phone charges were astronomical.

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**Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-showbiz-conspiracies-theories/998699/108 "2024-03-15T22:51:52Z")

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The rumor about Sylvester Stallone appearing in pornography is more or less true. He was in a softcore film very early in his career that was later rereleased after he became famous for _Rocky_

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-showbiz-conspiracies-theories/998699/109 "2024-03-15T22:53:32Z")

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Even before any of this happened, there was a Cheap Trick album that had a backwards message on a deep track that sounded like gibberish. It was the Lord’s Prayer, speeded up 8 times and put on the album backwards.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-showbiz-conspiracies-theories/998699/110 "2024-03-15T22:55:22Z")

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> [@Kent\_Clark](#):
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> If we want to get into the area of stars doing porn, there was a rumor that between his career as a mediocre baseball player and a mediocre actor, Chuck Connors did a gay sailor porn flick called something like _Gobs on Shore Leave_. Connors soon graduated to respectable TV roles and set out to get back and destroy all the copies of the film. So the story goes, he managed to get the master and most of the prints, but **of course** a handful survived and were passed around for years.

Don’t forget mediocre basketball player. He’s one of a handful of people who played in Major League Baseball and in the NBA. Of course in order to be good enough to even make it to that level means he was a better athlete than almost anyone.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-showbiz-conspiracies-theories/998699/111 "2024-03-15T22:59:01Z")

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And George Harrison for the past 22 1/2 years.

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**Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-showbiz-conspiracies-theories/998699/112 "2024-03-15T23:02:32Z")

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Hedy Lamarr was one of many people who basically invented radar.

> **[Hedy Lamarr](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedy_Lamarr)**
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> Hedy Lamarr (/ˈhɛdi/; born Hedwig Eva Maria Kiesler; November 9, 1914\[a\] – January 19, 2000) was an Austro-Hungarian-born American actress and technology inventor. She was a film star during Hollywood's Golden Age.
> After a brief early film career in Czechoslovakia, including the controversial Ecstasy (1933), she fled from her first husband, Fritz, a wealthy Austrian ammunition manufacturer, and secretly moved to Paris. Traveling to London, she met Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer studio head Louis B. May...

On a related note, Doobie Brothers’ guitarist Jeff “Skunk” Baxter has also worked on technology with the U.S. military. Last night, while watching a YouTube video of a live performance of “Black Water”, I learned that the instrument I thought was a violin was actually a laptop slide guitar.

> **[Jeff Baxter | Defense consulting career](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Baxter#Defense_consulting_career)**
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> Baxter fell into his second profession almost by accident. In the mid-1980s, his interest in music recording technology led him to wonder about hardware and software originally developed for military use, specifically data compression algorithms and large-capacity storage devices.
> His next-door neighbor was a retired engineer who had worked on the Sidewinder missile program. This neighbor bought Baxter a subscription to Aviation Week magazine, provoking his interest in additional military-orient...

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**Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-showbiz-conspiracies-theories/998699/113 "2024-03-15T23:03:40Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> Hedy Lamarr was one of many people who basically invented radar.

What’s the conspiracy?

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**Author:** ![dorvann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@dorvann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dorvann)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-showbiz-conspiracies-theories/998699/114 "2024-03-15T23:06:15Z")

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Speaking of Stallone he is alleged to be the one who created the rumor involving Richard Gere and a gerbil supposedly because Gere was chosen over him for the movie _An Officer and A Gentleman_.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-showbiz-conspiracies-theories/998699/115 "2024-03-15T23:06:22Z")

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There isn’t; I went off on a tangent.

Let’s resume our regularly scheduled programming.

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**Author:** ![dorvann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@dorvann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dorvann)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-showbiz-conspiracies-theories/998699/116 "2024-03-15T23:13:22Z")

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In a more morbid vein—Heather O’Rourke (the young actress from Poltergeist) died at the age 12 in 1988 from “congenital stenosis of the intestine complicated by septic shock”. However there are rumors that she really died from being repeatedly sexual assaulted by various Hollywood figures.

(This was a blind item on the website _Crazy Days and Nights_–I am not sure how reliable the site is. They have posted many weird showbiz conspiracies and theories over the years.)

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-showbiz-conspiracies-theories/998699/117 "2024-03-15T23:30:53Z")

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> [@dorvann](#):
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> there are rumors that she really died from being repeatedly sexual assaulted by various Hollywood figures.

The Coreys (Haim and Feldman) were alleged to have been victims of Hollywood sexual predators, too. I’m pretty sure Feldman has been one of the proponents of this information.

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**Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-showbiz-conspiracies-theories/998699/118 "2024-03-16T01:49:56Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> Hedy Lamarr

That’s _Hedley…_

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Hey, yours wasn’t a tangent, _this_ is a tangent…

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**Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-showbiz-conspiracies-theories/998699/119 "2024-03-16T03:56:02Z")

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Carly Simon wrote _You’re So Vain_ about my trip next month: “You flew your Lear Jet to Novia Scotia to see the total eclipse of the sun” (except replace “Lear Jet” with “Delta” and “Nova Scotia” with “Texas”).

Anyway, she never really said who the song is about, except Warren Beatty’s name keeps popping up. Or maybe Mick Jagger? Or was it James Taylor?

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**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-showbiz-conspiracies-theories/998699/120 "2024-03-16T10:22:15Z")

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> [@JohnGalt](#):
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> Or maybe Mick Jagger?

Mick sings backup on the song. So, I guess it still could be him, but that would be a really dirty trick on Carly’s part.

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