# Weird Wild West Mafia/Werewolf/Psychopath **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 30, 2009, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801 "2009-07-30T19:03:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/301 "2009-08-06T02:24:30Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > Yeah, that first game that you mentioned, when you were town, you were scums greatest asset. As Ed mentioned, you had town so terribly distracted it was…amazing. I mean, I don’t know how you did it. You were _confirmed town_\* and everyone was so wrapped up in what you were saying they would spend [lower case] days decoding you that they almost literally had no time to do anything else. > > \*as close to confirmed as you can get without being dead \*\* MY VERY FIRST MAFIA GAME.\*\* Smudge Much? ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/302 "2009-08-06T02:25:07Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > \*\* > MY VERY FIRST MAFIA GAME.\*\* > > Smudge Much? OK, I don’t think you understand what smudge means either. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/303 "2009-08-06T02:30:39Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > OK, I don’t think you understand what smudge means either. **Yes I do.** Joey here is trying to smudge me, and say that I ALWAYS play like that. Well, I had nothing to compare it to. And I know my play, in terms of post clarity improved in LOST. Meeko happens to be sober today Is LIGHT YEARS different from Meeko is a teetotaler. If I am the latter, and you say the former, then YES you are smudging. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/304 "2009-08-06T02:42:08Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > **Yes I do.** > > Joey here is trying to smudge me, and say that I ALWAYS play like that. Well, I had nothing to compare it to. And I know my play, in terms of post clarity improved in LOST. > Meeko happens to be sober today > > Is LIGHT YEARS different from > > Meeko is a teetotaler. > > If I am the latter, and you say the former, then YES you are smudging. No, there’s a difference between smudging and being wrong. Offering an opinion, even if far from the truth, is not the same as a smudge. Joey pointed out something you said and something you did in your very third game as being poor play and consistent with what you did in your very first game. It’s his opinion. A smudge is usually described as trying to make someone appear Scummy without really saying anything about them. (Forgive me, NAF, if I get this wrong). It is like saying: “Meeko is playing a great game. He has good analysis and seems to be acting in Town’s best interest. But then, isn’t that what you’d expect from a savvy Scum?” Do you see how I didn’t make a case against you. Didn’t point out anything you did wrong, but you are still left with the feeling that I called you Scum? ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/305 "2009-08-06T02:49:08Z")
I am not going further into this conversation. Ed, you have my vote for now. I think I made my point(s) as clear as I could. (I honestly would like input here from someone I do not know.) For all I know, Ed, you could be WIFOMing me right now, while talking about WIFOM and then also voting me. You probably wanted a reaction. You got this much of one, and this is where you an I stop talking about this. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/306 "2009-08-06T02:54:44Z")
\*\* Bleaching quoted votes and unvotes is appreciated. 🙂 Vote Count AlkaSeltzer(2): Oredigger, NAF, Tom Scud(2): Boozahol, CatinASuit Boozahol(2): Freudian, JoeyP, Freudian(2): AllWalker, MentalGuy NAF(1): Tom Scud Specialed(1): Meeko Oredigger(1): AlkaSeltzer Meeko(1): Specialed \*\* ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/307 "2009-08-06T03:04:06Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > On the bright side, I think you understand what OMGUS means. Snerk > [@Meeko](#): > > **Unvote MentalGuy** > > **Vote Special Ed** > > The Epitome of OMGUS. > [@Meeko](#): > > I am not going further into this conversation. > > Ed, you have my vote for now. I think I made my point(s) as clear as I could. (I honestly would like input here from someone I do not know.) Meeko, “The Epitome of OMGUS” is NOT a good reason to vote. Well, sometimes it can be, but not like that. You came right out and said that you were voting for Ed only because he voted for you. You have given no other reasons why and from what I can tell, you are refusing to do so in the future. I REALLY want to vote for you, but at the moment, I don’t think you’re acting scummy. ---
**Author:** ![Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc8723/32.png) [@Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nanook_of_the_North_Shore)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/308 "2009-08-06T03:09:01Z")
I do. Kinda. And I also think that Meeko is going to be a massive distraction for as long as he is alive. He was the Scum MVP in Glyph and was very helpful to them in Lost. I’d rather we had people around that were providing useful content. **Vote Meeko** For a blatantly scummy OMGUS, for refusing to answer direct questions, and for being a massive anti-Town to the point of being Pro-Scum distraction. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/309 "2009-08-06T03:34:42Z")
> [@Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](#): > > For a blatantly scummy OMGUS, for refusing to answer direct questions, and for being a massive anti-Town to the point of being Pro-Scum distraction. What Question is this now? ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/310 "2009-08-06T03:36:52Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > You came right out and said that you were voting for Ed only because he voted for you. You have given no other reasons why and from what I can tell, you are refusing to do so in the future. I REALLY want to vote for you, but at the moment, I don’t think you’re acting scummy. > [@Meeko](#): > > Ed, you have my vote for now. I think I made my point(s) as clear as I could. (I honestly would like input here from someone I do not know.) > > For all I know, Ed, you could be WIFOMing me right now, while talking about WIFOM and then also voting me. **Voting for me doesn’t help me improve my play either.** ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/311 "2009-08-06T03:38:46Z")
FTR: There is a permanent **FOS** on any one first day voting me, especially those of you that have played with me before. \*\*I am an Easy EASY bandwagon. Scum like bandwagons \*\* ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/312 "2009-08-06T03:41:02Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > **Voting for me doesn’t help me improve my play either.** Well…you can improve your play AND get unvoted by doing what they are asking. Ed wants you to take it down a notch. Nanook would like you see you do the same AND either put GOOD reasons on your vote or take it back as well as answer questions that were asked of you. That’s how the game is played. When someone votes for you, they give reasons and/or ask questions. Upon answering questions and defending yourself the voter will then decide if they want to unvote you. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/313 "2009-08-06T03:42:17Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > FTR: There is a permanent **FOS** on any one first day voting me, especially those of you that have played with me before. > > \*\*I am an Easy EASY bandwagon. Scum like bandwagons \*\* Now that’s just stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/314 "2009-08-06T03:43:44Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > Well…you can improve your play AND get unvoted by doing what they are asking. Ed wants you to take it down a notch. Nanook would like you see you do the same AND either put GOOD reasons on your vote or take it back as well as answer questions that were asked of you. > That’s how the game is played. When someone votes for you, they give reasons and/or ask questions. Upon answering questions and defending yourself the voter will then decide if they want to unvote you. \*\* Because Ed remains an Idiot.\*\* I do not know what else I can do. You can not water down water. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/315 "2009-08-06T03:46:05Z")
During this game a few people have mentioned that if it’s needed to break a tie, they would switch their votes. In general I’m against doing that\*. Meeko, based on your last statement (post 311) you are not playing the game well. You’re not playing it at all. This is EXACTLY the type of stuff I’ve told you about in the first game and in this game, but you just can’t seem to stop. If needed to break a tie, Meeko, you’ll have my vote. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/316 "2009-08-06T03:46:20Z")
I honestly do not understand why Ed is voting for me. Or why anyone is voting for me. What part of my explanation do you guys not get? ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/317 "2009-08-06T03:47:55Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > During this game a few people have mentioned that if it’s needed to break a tie, they would switch their votes. In general I’m against doing that\*. > > Meeko, based on your last statement (post 311) you are not playing the game well. You’re not playing it at all. This is EXACTLY the type of stuff I’ve told you about in the first game and in this game, but you just can’t seem to stop. If needed to break a tie, Meeko, you’ll have my vote. Wait. Stating the obvious is frowned upon?! You are telling me that I am NOT an easy bandwagon? ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/318 "2009-08-06T03:49:04Z")
Seriously, you voted Ed and stated it was an OMGUS vote. When pressed for a reason it’s because Ed is an idiot, when I called you on it, you still didn’t defend it. Really, that’s how you are playing the game. Aww fuckit. You’re making the game not fun. **unvote** **Vote Meeko** ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/319 "2009-08-06T03:49:07Z")
Further, everyone says they are asking questions. What have I not answered? ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/320 "2009-08-06T03:52:21Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > Further, everyone says they are asking questions. What have I not answered? Shhhh, the grown up are talking. But really. How about some solid reasons on exactly why you think Ed should be lynched toNight. Come up with that, and my vote goes back to Booze. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801.md?page=17)