# Weird Wild West Mafia/Werewolf/Psychopath **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 30, 2009, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801 "2009-07-30T19:03:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/361 "2009-08-06T17:27:56Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > [Adam Savage]There’s your problem![/Adam] **I reject your reality and substitute my own.** [/Adam Right back at you] On second thought, that reference doesn’t help my case at all. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/362 "2009-08-06T17:34:25Z")
> [@storyteller0910](#): > > **Meeko’s** #290 is, again, completely comprehensible to me. Am I going nuts? He doesn’t mean to say in the strictest sense that there are no Scum; he is speaking figuratively, I think. Like, “it’s Day One, we know nothing, for all we know there are no Scum, so it’s hard to place a well-reasoned vote.” Only he says it in Meeko. But it’s not that hard to understand, for Pete’s sake. \*\*Can I just hug you, in a completely, Heterosexual, Brotherly Love type way? That is exactly correct. \*\* ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/363 "2009-08-06T17:39:43Z")
> [@Alka\_Seltzer](#): > > Nope, two posts (and 6 minutes) after his vote for Tom, Boozahol said this: > > It was several posts later that special ed attacked your vote for Boozahol (is what you mean by defence?). Ahhh, I mis-understood. My reasoning still stands. For the moment, that’s the scmmiest thing _I’ve_ seen. And yes, that’s what I meant by defense. > [@Meeko](#): > > **I reject your reality and substitute my own.** [/Adam Right back at you] > :smack: Funny, that’s exactly the problem here. ---
**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/364 "2009-08-06T17:41:12Z")
I’ll be honest and say I’m not having much trouble understanding \*\*Meeko \*\*either and voting to modkill him because you don’t like his style is just plain wrong. In fact asking for anyone to be modkilled because you don’t like their style is wrong. BTW: **Meeko** , don’t try to be \*\*peekercpa \*\*or **Roosh** , just be **Meeko**. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/365 "2009-08-06T17:41:30Z")
You know what? I’m letting myself be upset by this game, which is just completely stupid. I like the information-seeking parts but I really dislike the social elements. This is not the game for me. **Unrequest Meeko Sub** **Request sub for Tom Scud** Sorry about doing this so late in the Day. ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/366 "2009-08-06T17:41:44Z")
I don’t have a lot of time today, but I want to do two things: chime in on the Meeko case, and change my vote. Subbing Meeko out seems to be a completely bullshit move. If people don’t like the way the guy plays, vote for him based on that (and that’s a weak move), but he’s participating, even if in a little wild and haphazard fashion. I never minded Roosh’s explosions of posts, and this guy is nowhere near as weird as zuma ever got… we just have them in a tidy little package here. I still think that following the potential Scudslip isn’t the worst idea for a day One lynch, but I don’t have any persuasive arguments beyond what little I and others have laid don. It doesn’t seem to be catching, so I’m going to switch over to vote for FS, partially because I think that she’s trying to concoct a reason against me and because I find her playstyle to be a little anti-discussion. More importantly, I must admit, it gets me closer to being out of trouble, and I know that lynching me wouldn’t be good for the town. \*\*unvote: Tom Scud vote: Freudian Zoggie \*\* ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/367 "2009-08-06T17:46:36Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > You know what? I’m letting myself be upset by this game, which is just completely stupid. I like the information-seeking parts but I really dislike the social elements. This is not the game for me. > > **Unrequest Meeko Sub** > **Request sub for Tom Scud** > > Sorry about doing this so late in the Day. That’s a shame. I’ve enjoyed your contributions thus far. For what it’s worth, I’d prefer it if you stayed on a little longer. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/368 "2009-08-06T17:51:34Z")
I appreciate it, but I honestly don’t think I have the right mindset for this game: I get over-involved in stuff, and I think this game takes a bit more detachment. Like I said, I’m finding it actively upsetting, not so much for the defending-myself aspect, which was okay, but for other elements. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/369 "2009-08-06T17:56:40Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > **Mahaloth, are you willing to involuntarily sub someone out for reasons not related to inactivity?** \*\*Not if they follow the rules and so forth. Vote Count Tom Scud(1): Zeriel Boozahol(2): Freudian, JoeyP Freudian(4): AllWalker, MentalGuy, Storyteller, Boozahol, NAF(2): CatinASuit, Oredigger Specialed(1): Meeko Oredigger(2): AlkaSeltzer, NAF, Meeko(2): Specialed, Nanook, Zeriel(1): Tom Scud\*\* ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/370 "2009-08-06T17:57:33Z")
> [@CatInASuit](#): > > BTW: **Meeko** , don’t try to be \*\*peekercpa \*\*or **Roosh** , just be **Meeko**. That’s the problem. I am being Meeko. People are looking for the best fit here, and I think Peeker / RoOsh suffice here. Perhaps if I was more Peeker, I would not have this much heat. \*\* Joey\*\* : I know, that’s why I added that the quote doesn’t help my case. I was going more for letting you know that I got the reference, and for the humor of the situation, not so much the Adam Savage speaks for me angle. **Tom Scud, and Actually, Everyone Else:** I am fairly sure that all of this will blow over with the next Dawn. We continue to not have enough information. Once the game has SOLID information (After tonight) we can begin to make strides. Our foundations such as they are right now, will continue to fail, as long as we don’t have solid intel. We are all frustrated by this fact, but we admit it is there. I am catching a lot of the energy from the frustration. Fine. Whatever, you guys know my style, and I am not changing it. I can’t. I am not putting anything on for show, this is my play, and it will remain my play. Only with play will it be refined. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/371 "2009-08-06T18:01:54Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > I appreciate it, but I honestly don’t think I have the right mindset for this game: I get over-involved in stuff, and I think this game takes a bit more detachment. Like I said, I’m finding it actively upsetting, not so much for the defending-myself aspect, which was okay, but for other elements. FWIW : I think my stance here is pretty well known. [**I am right there with you, Tom.**] I am trying to move past ALL of it, but I still get the pile on. **Storyteller** : You understand me. What can I be doing different? ---
**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/372 "2009-08-06T18:02:46Z")
Thinking it over, I shall also: **Unrequest Sub Meeko Request Sub Alka Seltzer** I’d like you to understand it’s nothing personal Meeko, but I find the extreamly low signal-to-noise ratio of your posts, along with their volume, very frustrating to read. That simply doesn’t make for an enjoyable gaming experience for me. I was under the impression that you going to try and rein things in a bit. Apologies to town for ducking out, and best of luck, but my enthusiasm for this game has completely evaporated. Once the game gets personal it’s no fun at all. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/373 "2009-08-06T18:05:06Z")
You know, **Story** , you’re right. I was letting my real-life frustrations into the game when I snarkily called for \*\*Meeko \*\*to be booted and I regret starting it. He’s still frustrating to play with, though, and I still plan to simply ignore anything he does that I find nonsensical or driven by metagamey reasons. ---
**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/374 "2009-08-06T18:08:07Z")
**Unvote Oredigger77** ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/375 "2009-08-06T18:13:20Z")
\*\*Everyone: 1. Calm down and play nice. 🙂 2. cucuy is in for Tom Scud. Say hello!\*\* ---
**Author:** ![cucuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7feea3/32.png) [@cucuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cucuy)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/376 "2009-08-06T18:16:11Z")
Hello players! A big cheer for Town! And for scum… /drops drawers and blows a kiss 😛 ---
**Author:** ![cucuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7feea3/32.png) [@cucuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cucuy)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/377 "2009-08-06T18:20:53Z")
**Mod question: Just to clarify, the previous player’s vote stands, yes?** ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/378 "2009-08-06T18:22:47Z")
> [@cucuy](#): > > **Mod question: Just to clarify, the previous player’s vote stands, yes?** **Yep, but you can unvote it if you like.** ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/379 "2009-08-06T18:33:10Z")
> [@Alka\_Seltzer](#): > > I’d like you to understand it’s nothing personal Meeko, but I find the extreamly low signal-to-noise ratio of your posts, along with their volume, very frustrating to read. That simply doesn’t make for an enjoyable gaming experience for me. I was under the impression that you going to try and rein things in a bit. I’m not going to let attacks on me go unanswered. I’m not going to let questions posed to me, go unanswered. I’m getting both. A LOT of them. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/380 "2009-08-06T18:34:50Z")
As far as the actual game goes :: \*\* What is the liklihood that Scum would ask to sub out? \*\* What is the liklihood, that they will now ask to sub out, simply because the question has been posed? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801.md?page=18) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801.md?page=20)