# Weird Wild West Mafia/Werewolf/Psychopath **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 30, 2009, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801 "2009-07-30T19:03:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 46
**Author:** ![AllWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AllWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllWalker)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/901 "2009-08-21T06:11:03Z")
**Nanook** , you are allowed to think what you want about **Meeko** , but what specifically about that quote pinged your scumdar? I interpret #898 to mean that Meeko doesn’t want to vote **story** on a personal level but, since he is claimed VT (“given what I was dealt this game”) and the case against story he feels he has to vote. Is that how you interpreted it, or did you read something different? ---
**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 10:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/902 "2009-08-21T10:02:26Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > Which way do you want it guys? Do you want me explaining myself and my thoughts, or don’t you? > > And hey, Natlaw, perhaps I Wanted you guys to think about the same things. Seems to me that is the only way Town can ever do anything, is if they think on the same, or nearly similar ideas. But you didn’t explain yourself or your thoughts, you posted four what if questions without even a stab at an answer or what to do best in those scenarios. Do you see how that is an easy way for scum to post without saying anything meaningful? > [@Meeko](#): > > I want to make sure I know, as best as we can know, what my vote means for the game, and for me, and my powers, if I have any. Your vote means you want to lynch that player (I bet you meant the consequences of your vote wrt to a possible bomb etc?). Also I thought you claimed vanilla? If your point was just to gets us to think about it, but not change the lynch of **Storyteller** , how does it help us find scum? > [@](#): > > And with this being quoted; I can now move closer to voting. > **Vote Storyteller.** > > Nothing OOG my man, you are one of the few that understand me. > But, given what I was dealt this game, this seems to me to be the best time to vote for you. You really need to separate your game suspicions from whomever you like out of game. Do you realize how easy that can be used to manipulate your vote? Note that I completely agree that asking for a sub of a player who follows the rules is rude, but a statement of ‘I completely understand Meeko’s post’ vs ‘he’s just posting gibberish’ can easily be a scum move to get in good standing with you (or to get you to post more game unrelated things). Of course whether **Story** did the former with that intention I don’t know. Now you can worry what the intentions are of Nanook (votes you), Allwalker (indirectly defends you by asking him to explain further (which on in itself is what town should do) or myself ((nit?)picking your posts) are. Do we have a scum or town motivation? That’s a big part of what you need to check when reading posts in mafia (not just the ones about you). Also were you dealt something specifically the rest of us weren’t or is that your way of saying ‘based on **cucuy** s investigation and your scum claim’? ---
**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/903 "2009-08-21T10:37:03Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > I said protect me instead of cucuy because I think my role is stronger than his if he can’t get proper reads. I did suggest that Nanook protect himself also, go back and actually read my post. I don’t think it really matters if Digger is killed or not, though if he is a townie and not third party of some sort (who knows) I think I am still a more powerful role. You did (although with an if he can self protect which he already claimed he did Night Two) and I went from memory and was wrong. > [@Mahaloth](#): > > **Vote Count: > JoeyP(1): Oredigger > Storyteller(7): AllWalker, CatInASuit, Pedescribe, Mhaye, NAF, Natlaw, Meeko** **Does [Storyteller’s vote](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11458648&postcount=803) for NAF1138 not count**? ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/904 "2009-08-21T12:39:45Z")
So when do I die again? I want to make sure I go out with a (purely metaphorical) bang. ---
**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/905 "2009-08-21T13:36:54Z")
At [high noon](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ShowdownAtHighNoon) (EST, a variant of version B is my bet :)). ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/906 "2009-08-21T14:00:12Z")
> [@storyteller0910](#): > > So when do I die again? I want to make sure I go out with a (purely metaphorical) bang. Uhm, yeah, and if you believe that you are only metaphorical, I have ocean front property Kansas I want to sell you. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/907 "2009-08-21T14:03:42Z")
> [@Natlaw](#): > > You really need to separate your game suspicions from whomever you like out of game. Do you realize how easy that can be used to manipulate your vote? Do you realize **I VOTED FOR HIM ANYWAY!?** My God Nat, I can tell your posts from a mile away already, and that is not a good thing. This may just be my third game, but I do have a style of play here, **If I can’t ask my hypothetical questions, you shouldn’t be allowed to ask yours.** ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/908 "2009-08-21T14:06:33Z")
> [@AllWalker](#): > > I interpret #898 to mean that Meeko doesn’t want to vote **story** on a personal level but, since he is claimed VT (“given what I was dealt this game”) and the case against story he feels he has to vote. Natlaw, take a page from Allwalker here. On the other hand, Allwalker, you are starting to understand me. You better watch that, it’s contagious. :eek:🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/909 "2009-08-21T14:09:36Z")
Nanook, Do I not ““ping”” you as being Town? I understand that it would be a different word, but I do not know the pro-town equivalent of ping. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/910 "2009-08-21T14:12:46Z")
Ah ok. _**Noon [EST] Today for Dusk.**_ Here I was thinking that Ma was late again. ---
**Author:** ![Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc8723/32.png) [@Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nanook_of_the_North_Shore)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/911 "2009-08-21T14:34:11Z")
No you don’t. You absolutely did in the last two games. In this one, you are coming across to me as scum. Allwalker, the impression I got from that quote was game related, not personal. Maybe I’m wrong, but the way it was said, and the wording used, it sounded like a scum telling another scum “Well I tried to get them off you, but it didn’t work, so I’m jumping on the bandwagon.” ---
**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/912 "2009-08-21T14:48:45Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > Do you realize I VOTED FOR HIM ANYWAY!? > My God Nat, I can tell your posts from a mile away already, and that is not a good thing. > > This may just be my third game, but I do have a style of play here, > > If I can’t ask my hypothetical questions, you shouldn’t be allowed to ask yours. Yes, I realize you voted for him despite the fact that he understands you and perhaps I should have put more weight on the [oog] tag and ignored it. I never said you couldn’t post hypothetical questions, just that those specific ones were unhelpful or impossible or redundant. And that you only posted the questions, not the hypothetical answers. Also I had some non-hypothetical question which you didn’t answer, although most where just trying to point out where your posts could be clearer. Except for the one where you seem to be reverting on your vanilla claim (“and my powers, if I have any”) or at least forgetting you already claimed. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/913 "2009-08-21T15:17:27Z")
> [@storyteller0910](#): > > So when do I die again? I want to make sure I go out with a (purely metaphorical) bang. 😛 I am going to miss having you in the game Story. Not that I am sad to see you die, but you are always a good time. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/914 "2009-08-21T16:01:27Z")
\*\*“Well, that’s one Crimson Thorn down. How many more are there?” inquired one townsperson. A general murmur indicated that no one really knew. Storyteller approached the crowd of townspeople. “Yeah, hey, guys. I don’t know how to say this, but….I’m a Crimson Thorn.” “Uh, what?” said….well, everyone. “Yep. Crimson Thorn. That’s me. I’m one of them. Yep,” said Storyteller. “Oh. Hmmm. Let’s kill Storyteller,” said the majority. So they did. They walked up to him, took out the same knife they had used the previous days, and cut storyteller’s throat. Storyteller is 100% dead. [COLOR=“DarkRed”]BOOM!!! Everyone jumped. What was that noise? They looked around. “Oh, sorry,” said one townsperson, “I just knocked some pots over.” But who was Storyteller anyway? Was he really a member of the Crimson Thorns? It is now Night. Day Four begins at 10:00 AM Eastern on Monday, August 24. Topic for tonight: What movie trilogy do you think is the best ever? I think Lord of the Rings is the best movie trilogy. [/COLOR]\*\* ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/915 "2009-08-21T16:05:52Z")
Well now that you have said LOTR I can’t think of any movie trillogy but LOTR. Thanks a lot Maha! :mad: Oh, Star Wars. :smack: Yep. Much better than LOTR. what? no, there were not six of them. that’s crazy talk, why would you say that? I mean it would be cool if there were an episode 1,2 & 3, but I think we all know that is never realisitcally going to happen. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/916 "2009-08-21T16:06:32Z")
_Thunderous applause from the studio audience_ ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/917 "2009-08-21T16:11:33Z")
I love the color in this game. As for the question I’m going with NAF here. Generally the LOTR movies bore me to death but I can’t wait for the Hobbit. Indiana Jones is another great trilogy since they never made a fourth and Temple of Doom was pretty good. I also thought of Die Hard and Lethal Weapon but both of their fourth movies are good enough to remember. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/918 "2009-08-21T16:20:54Z")
I would say Matrix, but I’m also partial to Cube. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/919 "2009-08-21T16:24:00Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > I would say Matrix, but I’m also partial to Cube. :eek: Matrix 3 was horrible!!! I love the first one and actually didn’t hate the second one, but the third is…boring. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/920 "2009-08-21T16:25:06Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > :eek: > > Matrix 3 was horrible!!! I love the first one and actually didn’t hate the second one, but the third is…boring. And what of Cube? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801.md?page=45) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801.md?page=47)