# Weird Wild West Mafia/Werewolf/Psychopath

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [July 30, 2009, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801 "2009-07-30T19:03:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 9:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1021 "2009-08-25T09:31:56Z")

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**Final Day One Vote Count:**  
**Freudian** (6): AllWalker, MentalGuy, Storyteller, Boozahol, Pedescribe, USCDiver  
Boozahol (2): **Freudian** , JoeyP  
NAF (2): CatinASuit, Oredigger  
Meeko (2): **Specialed** , Nanook,  
Tom Scud/Cucuy (1): Zeriel  
Oredigger (1): NAF  
Zeriel (1): Tom Scud/Cucuy  
Pedescribe (1): Meeko,  
JoeyP (1): MHaye

**Final Day Two Vote Count:**  
**Oredigger** (4): MHaye, CatInASuit, Joey, Pedescribe  
**MentalGuy** (5): NAF, Zeriel, Oredigger, Cucuy, USCDiver  
**JoeyP** (3): AllWalker, Meeko, Mentalguy

**Final Day Three Vote Count:**  
JoeyP (1): Oredigger  
**Storyteller** (7): AllWalker, CatInASuit, Pedescribe, Mhaye, NAF, Natlaw, Meeko  
Meeko (1): Nanook  
NAF1138 (1) : storyteller

**Alive:**  
Zeriel  
[del]Tom Scud[/del] cucuy - Claims investigator, 25% chance to fail  
Nanook of the North Shore - Claims town doctor  
[del]Alka Seltzer[/del] USCDiver  
MHaye - Claims Weak watcher  
Pedescribe  
NAF 1138 - Claims inventor - can track, can stop lynch, can use ‘passive power’  
Meeko - Claims vanilla  
JoeyP  
AllWalker  
Oredigger - Claims role blocker “Town Slut”  
Boozahol Squid, P.I. - Claims one shot vigilante, 25% chance to publicly fail “Wimpy Sheriff”  
CatInASuit

**Dead:**  
**Freudian Slit** : Ordinary Townsperson - Lynched D1  
**Special Ed** : Ordinary Townsperson - Killed N1  
**MentalGuy** : Crimson Thorn Prostitute (Roleblocker) - Lynched D2  
**Storyteller** : Ordinary Crimson Thorn - Lynched D3  
**[del]Roosh[/del]NatLaw**: Ordinary Townsperson - Killed N3

**Claims:**  
NAF claims Boozahol did nothing N1   
cucuy investigated Boozahol and found out who he is (presumably his claimed role)   
Oredigger blocked Allwalker N1: “an oddly wonderful night”   
Allwaker got “You had a wonderful Night of passion. You won’t forget that any time soon!” N1   
There was no kill N2  
cucay investigated storyteller and said he was a CT  
NAF claims to have used a passive power N2  
Oredigger claims to have blocked JoeyP N2  
NAF1138 claims to have tried to kill storyteller on D3 - no effect  
Oredigger claims to have blocked NAF1138 N3  
cucay investigated USCDiver and said he was a CT

Corrections welcome

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1022 "2009-08-25T15:22:45Z")

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You can update the passive power to self protect for me. That cat is already out of the bag, so we might as well be consistant with the information available.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1023 "2009-08-25T15:29:54Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Town wins when it kills off all the Crimson Thorns.  
> [/COLOR]\*\*

Ok, so, what I said about worrying about third parties? I think I was wrong. As long as we kill all the Crimson Thorns we clearly don’t have to worry. Unless I am very mistaken (and please let me know if anyone sees a loophole that I am missing), the above wincon clearly excludes win stealing third parties. At least for town.

It does leave open the possibility of game enders where a third party would win when they reach a specific goal (such as targeting every living member of town), but I don’t know what we can do about that.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1024 "2009-08-25T15:30:56Z")

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Also, I don’t think I voted yet.

**Vote USCDiver**

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1025 "2009-08-25T16:25:36Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> \*\*  
> “I choose NatLaw,” stated Storyteller. And then he disappeared.
> 
> It is now Day Four. Day Four will end on Friday, August 28 at Noon Eastern.  
> \*\*

Ya, the Dawn color doesn’t say Story chose anything what was I thinking. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1026 "2009-08-25T16:34:51Z")

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> [@NAF1138](#):
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> Ok, so, what I said about worrying about third parties? I think I was wrong. As long as we kill all the Crimson Thorns we clearly don’t have to worry. Unless I am very mistaken (and please let me know if anyone sees a loophole that I am missing), the above wincon clearly excludes win stealing third parties. At least for town.
> 
> It does leave open the possibility of game enders where a third party would win when they reach a specific goal (such as targeting every living member of town), but I don’t know what we can do about that.

You asked for loopholes :  
\*\*

X wins when all Y are dead. \*\* Thats what Town has, yes?

What is to stop the following:

\*\*  
W Wins when all X are dead. \*\* [There would be no way for X to know this is a wincon.]

Further more, it would fit the overarching archetype of a third party – secret to town as a whole. (I am using the word “town” to mean all players. Thirds and Scums are and indeed have to play as town at some point in the game.)

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1027 "2009-08-25T16:37:19Z")

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> [@Oredigger77](#):
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> Ya, the Dawn color doesn’t say Story chose anything what was I thinking. :dubious:

It doesn’t say that Story chose who to kill.

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1028 "2009-08-25T16:49:35Z")

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> [@pedescribe](#):
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> It doesn’t say that Story chose who to kill.

You’ve got to be kidding me. He chose Natlaw and Natlaw was the one who died. Really, I don’t see how you’re missing it.

But it doesn’t matter at this point because we’ve got another CT in the hand and it doesn’t make any difference whether Story was a psudo-bomb or the CTs decided to not kill a power role and shrunk the pool for them to hide in. We can see what happen after to Night.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1029 "2009-08-25T17:00:21Z")

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> [@Meeko](#):
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> You asked for loopholes :  
> \*\*
> 
> X wins when all Y are dead. \*\* Thats what Town has, yes?
> 
> What is to stop the following:
> 
> \*\*  
> W Wins when all X are dead. \*\* [There would be no way for X to know this is a wincon.]
> 
> Further more, it would fit the overarching archetype of a third party – secret to town as a whole. (I am using the word “town” to mean all players. Thirds and Scums are and indeed have to play as town at some point in the game.)

Sure, but if town is x, town loses when all x are dead regardless of if y or w are the ones who win. I don’t care about y or w winning, they can take care of themselves. If to win town (x) only has to remove Chrimson Thorn (y) then we don’t have to worry about killing third party (w) because if w wins only when all x are dead and x wins when all y are dead and y are all killed before x are…x wins and the game is over. W is shit out of luck in that situation.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1030 "2009-08-25T18:32:55Z")

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> [@Oredigger77](#):
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> You’ve got to be kidding me. He chose Natlaw and Natlaw was the one who died. Really, I don’t see how you’re missing it.
> 
> But it doesn’t matter at this point because we’ve got another CT in the hand and it doesn’t make any difference whether Story was a psudo-bomb or the CTs decided to not kill a power role and shrunk the pool for them to hide in. We can see what happen after to Night.

I just think you’re being rather silly, is all, taking color over the official mod declaration.

But yeah, whatever.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1031 "2009-08-25T19:52:07Z")

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Ped, I was gonna jump on you too, but Mah did say, twice, that Story was a Vanilla/Ordinary Crimson Thorn, so unless the CTs _in general_ get to chose someone to take out with them, I would assume, like you, it was just in the color.

Digger, if Story did chose Natlaw, would that have been the NK, or do you think Story was a bomb and the NK didn’t go through?

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1032 "2009-08-25T20:13:15Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> Digger, if Story did chose Natlaw, would that have been the NK, or do you think Story was a bomb and the NK didn’t go through?

I don’t think it matters _THAT_ much:

A. Story was not a Bomb - Then we had our NK [Nat], that we were going to have anyway, and we are still ahead of the game, in the fact that we got another CT. [I consider this being real good, a one for one trade.]

B. Story was a Bomb, and bombed Nat. For whatever reason then, we didn’t have the NK we were supposed to have. [Not as good as Option A, but, again, we could have lost 2 town, if story was a bomb, and was not attached to the NK, that could have happened, under this scenario.]

C. Something else, This could be a number of things, the least of which being role blocker, probability chances, etc. If this is the case, we can only work with what we KNOW has happened, not what we can speculate [We will be here for the entire game on it, and from the looks of it, it looks like we just might.]

The good news, that remains the good news, is that last night, FWIW, was good for town, considering what we could have had.  
I would like to speculate on last night as well, but, given that, we have a bandwagon [Face it, that is what it is] vote out, and a post restricted, outed Town power role, I believe our game is about change, very quickly, relatively speaking.

Let’s enjoy what we have while we have it, and take the final moves it affords us [The Vote on Diver] this won’t last forever, and it is never to late to plan after it. I don’t see Cucuy living too much longer. [And this is just plain common sense.]  
I am not sure what Tomorrow may bring. Frankly, I don’t have anything to follow up on.

Anyone have any ideas outside of Story is or isn’t a bomb / Cucuy tells us to vote Diver?  
Are we seriously still considering a third party? [Hey don’t look at me, I even suggested that this game was a one party…]  
Anyone else for what 50% means? What “Be careful” and “[be] creative” could mean?  
Or, you know, don’t take my ideas, just, if we can build off of each other, a foundation has to come somewhere.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1033 "2009-08-25T20:24:27Z")

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> [@Meeko](#):
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> I don’t think it matters _THAT_ much:

Actually, it kinda does. If Story WAS a bomb, either the Night Killer was blocked or the Night Killee was protected, if story wasn’t a bomb then neither of those things happened. If Story was a bomb then it’s possible NAF is our killer (assuming Story did in fact block NAF last Night).  
It’s hard to say this time since a death did happen at night. If one hadn’t I would suggest that Digger stay on the same person again to see what happens.

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1034 "2009-08-25T20:34:33Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
>
> Actually, it kinda does. If Story WAS a bomb, either the Night Killer was blocked or the Night Killee was protected, if story wasn’t a bomb then neither of those things happened. If Story was a bomb then it’s possible NAF is our killer (assuming Story did in fact block NAF last Night).  
> It’s hard to say this time since a death did happen at night. If one hadn’t I would suggest that Digger stay on the same person again to see what happens.

Not only that, but \*\*Nanook \*\*has implied he was protecting **cucuy** or at the very least has something to do with his Babelfish syndrome.

I’d also like to encourage all of you to at least consider that I’m a vanilla townie who has had a false investigation as you try to decipher the puzzle Today. It’s going to be a lot harder to go back Tomorrow and rethink everything that’s been posted Today.

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**Author:** ![Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc8723/32.png) [@Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nanook_of_the_North_Shore)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1035 "2009-08-25T20:46:33Z")

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I’m not sure what you expect. Just like I said over and over to Meeko Yesterday, there is no chance in hell that we’re at LYLO. As such, there is exactly a zero percent chance I’ll vote for the claimed Detective who successfully outted one Scum so far over a claimed Vanilla that said claimed Detective has said is Scum. Further, your last statement doesn’t make sense. If you come up as anything other than Scum or Miller we’ll have a pretty good idea of what happened Today. Why would more information make it HARDER to figure out what’s going on?

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1036 "2009-08-25T21:27:16Z")

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I’ve never played a game with a Miller, but even if the Miller doesn’t know it, is are the rest of the players typically informed upon death?

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1037 "2009-08-25T21:36:51Z")

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Meeko’s about to do a WOW.

\*\*  
INCOMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING!!!\*\*

WOW : Mahaloth

[Ok, so even if he isn’t a player, he is playing us. Right?]

> [@Mahaloth](#):
>
> The town, who were totally confused, eventually settled on Freudian Slit. They gathered around Freudian Slit, who looked very surprised, and proceeded to force him/her to the ground. Once on the ground, they cut his/her throat and watched anxiously as he/she bled to death.
> 
> Freudian Slit is now 100% dead.
> 
> “Well, was he/she a member of the Crimson Thorns?” said a voice from the mob.
> 
> “I have no idea,” said…..well, everyone.
> 
> A townsperson said, “I assumed we would just immediately ‘know’ who he/she was. Why don’t we?”
> 
> Suddenly, two things happened at the same time. First, the crowd was hit with an overwhelming sense of fear and fatigue. They strongly felt they must head home and rest.
> 
> Secondly, they experienced an odd sense. The townspeople felt an overwhelming feeling of security, as if they knew they would [[know]] who Freudian Slit truly was when the time was right.
> 
> Oddly, they were no longer worried about Freudian Slit’s true identity. They returned to their homes, went to bed, contemplated the days events, and slept soundly.
> 
> It is now Night. You are all at home and may NOT talk strategy. Talking strategy implies leaving your house and opens you to being killed on the spot. More specifically, I’ll modkill you if you talk strategy. Got it?
> 
> Day Two will begin on Monday at 10 AM Eastern. Night Actions, if any, must be in by 9:59 AM.

So. This has been my first game, where we could not discuss strategy at Night. I am told, and I believe due to the nature that the timing step is called “night” that indeed not talking at night is the default rule. Victim of circumstance that I am, to get my first two Mafia games with out this rule in effect.

**But, that doesn’t really explain why it is in effect for this game.**

I mean, It is apparent to me, that Color actually means something this time around. Sure, all games should feel this way, but, I just wonder what DOES happen at night, if not the talking. Why must town go home?

Ma is not telling us allignment when it is usually time to do so. most of us have commented on it, some more than I have. **So, here, we have proof that this game is definitely not a normally mafia game.** How much more down this path has Ma taken this game?

> [@Mahaloth](#):
>
> The townspeople had a hard time recovering from the shock of yesterday. Two more of their own had died and they did not want to send another.
> 
> Some were so shocked, they could not speak.
> 
> Some could only mutter a view [[few]] words.
> 
> In the end, the town decided not to choose and just exile two people and let God decide.
> 
> “Wait a minute! We are killing someone? I say Mentalguy!” cried out USCDiver.
> 
> And so the town, having settled on Mentalguy, approached him with a knife. The slit his throat, while he begged them, first with his cries, and lastly with his eyes.
> 
> MentalGuy is 100% Dead.
> 
> But who was he? Will his ghost appear to tell everyone in the morning? You’ll have to wait and see.
> 
> It is now Night Two.
> 
> No strategy. Day Three begins on Monday, August 17, at 10:00 AM.

Interesting to re-read this, in light of the current vote leader.

But, this was Dusk Two. We had some answers at this point, and we realized, thankfully, that Ma is not _that_ gastardly. We will get our answers, only when he wants us to. **I highly suspect that Color is once again at work here.**

But, that is not the only thing. Again, on Dusk Two, we have **“100% Dead”**. The first night could simply mean that either Mahaloth is making it clear with us that F.S. was in the ground. Odd verbiage for day 1, but, if it were to be a one time shot [Excuse the pun] then we could ignore it, chalk it up to an attempt at humor, or some other, innocent reason.

But, again, we get Math at Dusk Two. I don’t know what to do with 100% Dead, and I don’t think anyone else can _do_ anything with it either. If it was some other number, the implication to me, is that someone could have a resurrect power, or some other “near death experience” triggering event. [Either Pro-town, via a doctor, or Pro some other eventuality we do not know yet.]  
\*\*  
I wonder if Ghosts or some other assumed Third plays here. If the numbers point to a window for a third party.  
\*\*

Then again, it could just be a red herring.

> [@Mahaloth](#):
>
> “Well, that’s one Crimson Thorn down. How many more are there?” inquired one townsperson.
> 
> A general murmur indicated that no one really knew.
> 
> Storyteller approached the crowd of townspeople. “Yeah, hey, guys. I don’t know how to say this, but….I’m a Crimson Thorn.”
> 
> “Uh, what?” said….well, everyone.
> 
> “Yep. Crimson Thorn. That’s me. I’m one of them. Yep,” said Storyteller.
> 
> “Oh. Hmmm. Let’s kill Storyteller,” said the majority.
> 
> So they did. They walked up to him, took out the same knife they had used the previous days, and cut storyteller’s throat.
> 
> Storyteller is 100% dead.
> 
> BOOM!!!  
> Everyone jumped. What was that noise?
> 
> They looked around.
> 
> “Oh, sorry,” said one townsperson, “I just knocked some pots over.”
> 
> But who was Storyteller anyway? Was he really a member of the Crimson Thorns?
> 
> It is now Night. Day Four begins at 10:00 AM Eastern on Monday, August 24.

One has to wonder, if Ma just threw in the ““Boom!!!”” line because Town willed it into being. That is, if Story was the Bomb, would we have a ““Boom!!!”” as we had it ?

Let me put on the flame-proof suit:

Good WIFOM on Ma’s part.

> [@Mahaloth](#):
>
> “The DOOM must have really hurt when it entered his new wounds with each dip,” stated one townsperson.”
> 
> Floating next to the townsperson in the barrel was a piece of leather, which had something stamped into it. It appeared to be another note. It said:
> 
> 50%
> 
> “What is that supposed to mean?” asked one individual.
> 
> No one answered.
> 
> “I choose NatLaw,” stated Storyteller. And then he disappeared.
> 
> It is now Day Four. Day Four will end on Friday, August 28 at Noon Eastern.  
> [/COLOR]\*\*

\*\*And from this, we have quite a few things. \*\*

\*\*“” The Doom “” \*\*is so… obtuse in phrasing, that I think it does NOT mean just the barrel, or the iD game.

\*\*50% \*\* I assume that this can be compared to the 100% So something got easier for someone, somwhere. Given that we have 2 scum down, compared to a much larger population of Town [Pure basic MAFIA Math] I think and hope that Town has gotten further towards winning.

Those of you that can do something, do something with this, if you can.

**I chose Natlaw.**

A: Storyteller is Third, or a CT with Alpha and other powers.

B. Storyteller got to get his NK in, before his death.

I lean more towards the first option.

* * *

The vote on Diver is not likely to go away.

Mahaloth is not going to give info away before he has to.

Let’s see what tonight brings, and toss that into this mix, and see what happens.  
As it is now, Something has to happen. I am willing to bet that, that something will happen, and soon. Otherwise, Im totally clueless here.

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1038 "2009-08-25T21:37:18Z")

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> [@Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](#):
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> I’m not sure what you expect. Just like I said over and over to Meeko Yesterday, there is no chance in hell that we’re at LYLO. As such, there is exactly a zero percent chance I’ll vote for the claimed Detective who successfully outted one Scum so far over a claimed Vanilla that said claimed Detective has said is Scum. Further, your last statement doesn’t make sense. If you come up as anything other than Scum or Miller we’ll have a pretty good idea of what happened Today. Why would more information make it HARDER to figure out what’s going on?

You’re misunderstanding me. I’m not asking you to unvote for me. I can’t argue that I’m the best lynch candidate for Today. I’m just worried about all the assumptions that people are making with false information and I’d like to caution you all to at least keep the possibility that I’m town in the back of your mind.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1039 "2009-08-25T21:37:51Z")

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NETA:  
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Those of you who can do something with this refers back to 50% NOT Nat\*\*law.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1040 "2009-08-25T21:38:58Z")

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UGH.

New Topic ::

\*\*Does anyone want to Call out a breadcrumb they put into a post? \*\*

Hell, we got people claiming left right and center, would be nice to have a breadcrumb in there.

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