# Weird Wild West Mafia/Werewolf/Psychopath

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [July 30, 2009, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801 "2009-07-30T19:03:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1241 "2009-09-07T06:27:33Z")

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> [@CatInASuit](#):
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> Meeko, just bringing this back up from the start of the game.
> 
> If you want to know why Boozy Squid and I have a running battle going we have
> 
> [Boozy’s Post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9091197&postcount=1145)
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> followed by [my post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9096365&postcount=1247)
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> He wasn’t happy when I threatened to blow him up 😃
> 
> My pelt currently adorns the back of the Conspiracy Bar

And it should be known that, despite my nigh-constantly repeated threats and rantings and ravings against **Cat** , I still view that interchange as my favorite moment of all the Mafia games I’ve played, and, indeed, my favorite moment of all my internet board exchanges.

That’s the fun of these games, out of adversarial relationships comes great things.

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**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1242 "2009-09-07T06:31:54Z")

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Oh, it’s also notable that **Cat** wasn’t a Necromancer, had no blow-up ability, **Blaster Master** was my fellow witch, and that I totally bowed down to Cat’s threat and let him live another night, which damn near won the game for him.

Despite the fact that the Town won that game, and **Cat** ’s Undead lost it, both of us know that he won it right there.

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1243 "2009-09-07T13:28:32Z")

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::Does walk of shame::

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**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1244 "2009-09-07T14:07:30Z")

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There’s something so very wrong about the walk of shame with a 😃 in it.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1245 "2009-09-07T14:09:52Z")

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\*\*When the townspeople awoke, most of their thoughts went immediately to the loud noise they had heard in the Night. They were a bit more anxious than usual to leave their homes, but they eventually did.

There was a faint smoky smell in the air. It seemed to get stronger from one area. As they townspeople entered the home where the smell was strongest, they were not surprised to find a body.

AllWalker was in his bead, looking still asleep. However, he had a bullet hole in his head and blood had soaked into his mattress and sheets. He was quite clearly dead.

“Yes, I died during the Night,” said AllWalker’s ghost, who now appeared just behind the crowd of townspeople. “I don’t know what happened. I was just lying there, and then I was gone….I didn’t even hear it happen,” he continued.

“Who killed you?” asked one townsperson.

A tear fell down AllWalkers face. “I don’t know. But I will say, I told you I was against this plan.”

And he disappeared.

AllWalker, who was an ordinary townsperson, is 100% dead.

As the townspeople exited AllWalker’s house, they noticed one of the town signs had been removed and was lying on the ground. It was the sign that read, “Enjoy yourselves, but never too much.” It usually hung outside the barn that was used as a dance hall on weekends.

They picked up the sign and turned it over. There was a note scratched into it. It read:

Not Even Close Yet

There was also a thin trail of blood that led into the barn. As they entered, the sight shocked the town into silence. Naked corpses were hanging from strings, like marionette dolls, which each limb attached to a string. They were the bodies of those who had died in the previous Nights. All but AllWalker’s new corpse were there. It was disturbing, to say the least, to see their lost friends there. They were all coupled together, as if the bodies had danced during the Night and had fallen asleep on the spot, frozen in their dancing forms.

They all had their faces pulled into smiles and had leather notes sewn into their skin. The notes all said the same thing. The notes read:

Have Fun With The Method

In the middle of the floor their lay a new corpse, that of MHaye, who appeared to have been trodden to death under the feet of the other corpses. He had been tied down, though he had a smile on his face.

“It must have taken a long time to die,” said one townsperson.

As the townspeople exited the barn, dreading the clean-up that awaited them, they were greeted by MHaye’s ghost.

He still had a weird smile on his face.

"I was stricken! Taken treacherously at unawares by the evil of the Night. May their points be blunted. And not one of you deigned to show a poor lonely old man even one shapely limb. Watching those nude corpses dance was the only enjoyment this old soul ever got, and I only got that at the end!”

Then he disappeared.

MHaye, who was a town Pervert\*, is 100% dead.

It is now Day Six. Day Six will end on Friday, September 11, at 3:30 PM(note the new time) Eastern.

\*The pervert was able to look into your homes at Night and see if anyone was leaving to perform some sort of action.  
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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1246 "2009-09-07T14:11:07Z")

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I don’t know, I always have a shit eating grin on my face when I do one.

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1247 "2009-09-07T14:15:15Z")

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**What about Pede and Z?**

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**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1248 "2009-09-07T14:23:50Z")

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Well Zeriel was an ordinary towsnperson according to the end of Day #1216.

Pedescribe is as yet unknown.

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1249 "2009-09-07T14:59:25Z")

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Thanks, I forgot that and was expecting 4 revealed.

I’m trying to figure out why NAF or cucuy wasn’t killed but it gets deep into WIFOM territory.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1250 "2009-09-07T15:05:13Z")

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\*\*The town was more depressed than ever. AllWalker’s death left them with a bitter taste and their mouth and the knowledge about MHaye’s true nature left them disgusted, as did the condition in which they found him. As they turned back to the Barn to begin removing the hanging corpses, they were met with the ghost of Pedescribe.

He yelled at them, “Seriously? Condemn and ties? That was the best you could come up with? You people don’t deserve the luck you have had. If only you knew what each of you were thinking during the Night! I know your thoughts!”

And he, too, disappeared.

Pedescribe, who was a Crimson Thorn Mind Reader\*, is 100% dead.\*\*

\*Mind Reader is a detective role.

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**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1251 "2009-09-07T15:09:00Z")

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That’s better

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**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1252 "2009-09-07T18:06:20Z")

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Well, the shot that rang out in the night was my gun, and I killed poor VT AllWalker. Sorry, dude. My gun is now empty, but my foot is intact.

I gues we’re waiting on cucuy?

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1253 "2009-09-07T18:29:29Z")

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I am. I think our direction toDay is going to change based on his discovery.

Just for the record I did sleep with Meeko.

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**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1254 "2009-09-07T19:37:14Z")

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> [@Oredigger77](#):
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> I am. I think our direction toDay is going to change based on his discovery.
> 
> Just for the record I did sleep with Meeko.

Why do you think our direction will change? What result do you think he will give?

And for the record, I guess that is why you did the walk of shame, huh? 😉

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1255 "2009-09-07T20:19:18Z")

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Well, if cucuy found scum our direction is pretty fixed on the other hand if not we need to decide if we’re going to lynch Meeko to finish up the vanilla pool, lynch cucuy to prove his investigations (to be fair the lynching of the scum investigator makes cucuy the town investigator more likely) or go after the rest of the power roles.

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**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1256 "2009-09-07T23:44:44Z")

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> [@Oredigger77](#):
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> Well, if cucuy found scum our direction is pretty fixed on the other hand if not we need to decide if we’re going to lynch Meeko to finish up the vanilla pool, lynch cucuy to prove his investigations (to be fair the lynching of the scum investigator makes cucuy the town investigator more likely) or go after the rest of the power roles.

We also need to lynch Cat to finish up the Vanilla pool.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2009, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1257 "2009-09-08T00:01:49Z")

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> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#):
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> We also need to lynch Cat to finish up the Vanilla pool.

Even if Cucuy’s investigation shows him as VT?

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**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2009, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1258 "2009-09-08T00:22:50Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> Even if Cucuy’s investigation shows him as VT?

Come on, it’s lynching CatinaSuit. If I’m not allowed to get excited about the possibility, I’m packing up my toys and going home. 😃

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**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2009, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1259 "2009-09-08T00:56:31Z")

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**Final Day One Vote Count:**  
**Freudian** (6): **AllWalker** , MentalGuy, Storyteller, Boozahol, Pedescribe, **USCDiver**  
Boozahol (2): **Freudian** , JoeyP  
NAF (2): CatinASuit, Oredigger  
Meeko (2): **Specialed** , **Nanook**  
Tom Scud/Cucuy (1): **Zeriel**  
Oredigger (1): NAF  
Zeriel (1): Tom Scud/Cucuy  
Pedescribe (1): Meeko,  
JoeyP (1): **MHaye**

**Final Day Two Vote Count:**  
**Oredigger** (4): **MHaye** , CatInASuit, Joey, Pedescribe  
MentalGuy (5): NAF, **Zeriel** , Oredigger, Cucuy, **USCDiver**  
**JoeyP** (3): **AllWalker** , Meeko, Mentalguy

**Final Day Three Vote Count:**  
JoeyP (1): Oredigger  
Storyteller(7): **AllWalker** , CatInASuit, Pedescribe, **Mhaye** , NAF, **Natlaw** , Meeko  
Meeko (1): **Nanook**  
NAF1138 (1) : storyteller

**Town List Claims:**

Vanilla

1. Meeko
2. JoeyP
3. CatInASuit

Power Role:

1. [del]Tom Scud[/del] Cucuy - Investigator
2. NAF 1138 - Inventor
3. Oredigger - Roleblocker
4. Boozahol Squid, P.I. - Vig

**Dead**

1. Freudian Slit - Vanilla - Lynch D1
2. SpecialEd - Vanilla1. NK - N1
3. MentalGuy - CT Roleblocker - Lynch D2
4. Storyteller - CT Vanilla - Lynch D3
5. [del]Ro0sh[/del] Natlaw - Vanilla - NK - N3
6. [del]Alka Seltzer[/del] USCDiver - Miller - Lynch D4
7. Nanook of the North Shore - Doctor - NK N4
8. Zeriel - Vanilla - DK D5
9. pedescribe - CT Investigator - Lynch D5
10. AllWalker - Vanilla - NK N5
11. MHaye - Watcher - NK N5

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**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2009, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1260 "2009-09-08T01:12:49Z")

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Power roles

Unknown claimed:  
Investigator  
One shot vig  
Roleblocker  
Inventor aka Vig + Doctor + Watcher + Lynch Stopper + Vote Buyer

Town power role:  
Doctor  
Miller (townie looks like scum)  
Watcher

Scum Power Role:  
Roleblocker  
Investigator

I would be surprised if there was not a godfather role on the scum side ie: a scum who looks like a town, because it would fit neatly in having the same roles on both sides, with the only extras being NAF1138’s claimed powers which may or may not be true,  
Possible Scum Setup:  
godfather  
Roleblocker  
Investigator  
jack-of-all-trades (doctor/watcher/one-shot-vig)  
vanilla

Possible Town Setup:  
Doctor  
investigator  
roleblocker  
watcher  
one shot vig  
miller  
vanilla

Yes, this means I think there are 5 scum in the game and that NAF1138 is possibly one of them. It also means that one of Meeko or JoeyP are the godfather, which I would guess is JoeyP. I believe we are not at LoL yet, so for the moment.

**vote JoeyP**

Some more analysis in the morning pending any other results coming back, but if cucay went with the plan it would be CIAS = VT

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