# Weird Wild West Mafia/Werewolf/Psychopath **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 30, 2009, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801 "2009-07-30T19:03:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 70
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1381 "2009-09-16T15:03:18Z")
I should add that **Oredigger** , you _must_ block **NAF** tonight. If **NAF** is the final scum, and his lynch-stopping power (which he said he had, but never used) is real, then we’ve lost if he manages a kill tonight. We’ll be at three people tomorrow (probably with \*\*Ore \*\*dead), and even if **JoeyP** and I vote against **NAF** , he can just stop the lynch against two powerless townies and use a bonus night to bring the game down to 1v1: a scum win. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1382 "2009-09-16T15:34:42Z")
> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#): > > I should add that **Oredigger** , you _must_ block **NAF** tonight. If **NAF** is the final scum, and his lynch-stopping power (which he said he had, but never used) is real, then we’ve lost if he manages a kill tonight. We’ll be at three people tomorrow (probably with \*\*Ore \*\*dead), and even if **JoeyP** and I vote against **NAF** , he can just stop the lynch against two powerless townies and use a bonus night to bring the game down to 1v1: a scum win. After all this you still think it’s likely that I am actually scum? Honest to god, other than my mistake with Cat, what have I done that was anti town in any way? I helped bring down not one but TWO other scum via lynch for christ sake. ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1383 "2009-09-16T16:48:33Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > After all this you still think it’s likely that I am actually scum? Honest to god, other than my mistake with Cat, what have I done that was anti town in any way? I helped bring down not one but TWO other scum via lynch for christ sake. I didn’t say that, **NAF**. What I’m saying is that if you are scum, and you do have a lynch-stopping power, you’d be unstoppable if you got a lynch off tonight. Am I wrong? ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1384 "2009-09-16T16:49:50Z")
NETA: Got a kill off tonight, not a lynch off ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1385 "2009-09-16T17:54:54Z")
> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#): > > I didn’t say that, **NAF**. What I’m saying is that if you are scum, and you do have a lynch-stopping power, you’d be unstoppable if you got a lynch off tonight. Am I wrong? No no, you aren’t wrong. It’s just that Digger’s blocking power could be more usefull if directed at someone who is actually likely to be scum. ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1386 "2009-09-16T17:55:26Z")
So here’s what I’m saying: Tomorrow morning, either Oredigger or myself will be dead. We’re both fairly firmly confirmed townies. I’m a little more confirmed, but **Oredigger** is much more powerful (and able to end the game in a draw, if it comes down to 1v1) That is, if the game goes on tomorrow morning. If **NAF** and **JoeyP** are scumbuddies, this game will be over at dawn, given that **Oredigger** doesn’t block (and even then, it’s inevitable that eventually hell be outguessed by a scum pair). If **Meeko** ’s the last remaining scum, we win. If **Meeko** ’s scum and the game continues, then… really nothing changes for my next bit of analysis. If the game starts up tomorrow morning, and there’s been no kill, we then have to decide if **Oredigger** blocked **NAF** ’s kill, or **JoeyP** decided strategically to not kill in order to frame NAF. Even so, we can lynch a townie **NAF, Oredigger** can block **Joey** that night, and we can finish **Joey** off the next Day. If there is a kill, then the two remaining of \*\*Oredigger, NAF \*\*and I will just lynch **Joey** , and the town wins. If **Oredigger** ’s scum… the town’s lost, in large part because of me. I don’t see much way around it at this point. Did I miss anything? ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1387 "2009-09-16T17:57:40Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > No no, you aren’t wrong. It’s just that Digger’s blocking power could be more usefull if directed at someone who is actually likely to be scum. I suppose if **Meeko** turns out to be scum, it does increase the possibility of **JoeyP** being scum, as well. If he’s town, it greatly raises the possibility of you being scum (given that JoeyP was blocked on a night that the town killed) It’s up to his discretion, of course. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1388 "2009-09-16T18:30:53Z")
> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#): > > So here’s what I’m saying: > Tomorrow morning, either Oredigger or myself will be dead. We’re both fairly firmly confirmed townies. I’m a little more confirmed, but **Oredigger** is much more powerful (and able to end the game in a draw, if it comes down to 1v1) > That is, if the game goes on tomorrow morning. If **NAF** and **JoeyP** are scumbuddies, this game will be over at dawn, given that **Oredigger** doesn’t block (and even then, it’s inevitable that eventually hell be outguessed by a scum pair). If **Meeko** ’s the last remaining scum, we win. If **Meeko** ’s scum and the game continues, then… really nothing changes for my next bit of analysis. > If the game starts up tomorrow morning, and there’s been no kill, we then have to decide if **Oredigger** blocked **NAF** ’s kill, or **JoeyP** decided strategically to not kill in order to frame NAF. Even so, we can lynch a townie **NAF, Oredigger** can block **Joey** that night, and we can finish **Joey** off the next Day. > If there is a kill, then the two remaining of \*\*Oredigger, NAF \*\*and I will just lynch **Joey** , and the town wins. > If **Oredigger** ’s scum… the town’s lost, in large part because of me. I don’t see much way around it at this point. > > Did I miss anything? Huh, that’s…not a bad plan acutally. We’re fucked if Digger is scum, but we know that Digger is a roleblocker and we know that scum already had a roleblocker whoe is dead, so again, the odds of Digger being scum are slim. ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1389 "2009-09-16T19:06:29Z")
I’d like to suggest another even shorter night: this game has gone on for quite some time now, and there’s at most (given **Oredigger** is town) two orders (scum-kill and block) to go in. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1390 "2009-09-16T19:30:41Z")
\*\*The town gathered rather quickly around Meeko, and killed him. He looked surprised, actually. Meeko is 100% dead. But who was he really? It is Night. Day will begin tomorrow, Thursday September 17, at 3:30 PM. Note the very short Night.\*\* ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1391 "2009-09-16T20:32:36Z")
::Enjoys a quickie and sneaks home:: Stupid short Nights I was in mood for a hell of a session 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1392 "2009-09-16T20:45:03Z")
> [@Oredigger77](#): > > ::Enjoys a quickie So you’re blocking yourself tonight?:dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1393 "2009-09-16T20:46:38Z")
I’ve got a bad feeling about this. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1394 "2009-09-16T21:28:13Z")
It’s a short night let’s not read too much into my fluff crap. Geeze, guys I just wanted to let you know that I’d sent my PM and try to be funny. On a side note I’m going to be driving again Friday so I’ll be mostly absent again if the game is still going on. ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1395 "2009-09-16T22:34:40Z")
> [@Oredigger77](#): > > It’s a short night let’s not read too much into my fluff crap. Geeze, guys I just wanted to let you know that I’d sent my PM and try to be funny. I was just quoting Star Wars. I think JoeyP’s quaking in his scumboots. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1396 "2009-09-17T10:40:21Z")
> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#): > > I’ve got a bad feeling about this. Across the 6 films, how many times has that line been used? Did each person get to use it at least once? Also, first line in New Hope, by C3PO right? ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1397 "2009-09-17T10:41:33Z")
And I mean, the VERY first line in the movie. Oh, and I died. Fun. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1398 "2009-09-17T10:45:06Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > Well, that’s 4 of us voting. Meeko, you want to chime in? Not that is worth it now, but yeah. … I mean, The ironic thing is, you all got your wish on my posting level. – Not sure when I will join up in a new game. But again, in so many ways, there was nothing more I felt I could have added to the game. I mean, not when other people are over powered. Not going to claim otherwise, not going to say anything else. You guys know what I am. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1399 "2009-09-17T12:36:42Z")
**For discussion: 1398 posts in the thread; Meeko has 302 of them.** I am disinclined to play in a Mafiascum game on the job if Meeko is also in it – I won’t be able to do my day job AND keep up with the game. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1400 "2009-09-17T14:41:22Z")
That’s only 22% he’s really clamed down on his posting. He was over 24% of the posts in both of his previous games. I like it because there is normally something new to read when ever I check on the thread. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801.md?page=69) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801.md?page=71)