# Weird Wild West Mafia/Werewolf/Psychopath **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 30, 2009, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801 "2009-07-30T19:03:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 71
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1401 "2009-09-17T14:58:14Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > Across the 6 films, how many times has that line been used? Did each person get to use it at least once? > > Also, first line in New Hope, by C3PO right? It’s said five times over the course of the three movies: I don’t think C3PO says it until the third movie. I want to say Han says it twice (in New Hope and RoJ), Luke says it in NH, and Leia says it in ESB. > [@Meeko](#): > > Not that is worth it now, but yeah. … I mean, The ironic thing is, you all got your wish on my posting level. – Not sure when I will join up in a new game. > > But again, in so many ways, there was nothing more I felt I could have added to the game. I mean, not when other people are over powered. That’s a shame. You could become a very good player if you focussed your attention on the game itself, rather than on personal quarrels within the game. Your posting would be more substansive, and I think you’d find that people welcomed your posts (whatever their amount) a bit more if that were the case. Take some time, settle down in the new job, and give it another go. When you do come back (in addition to brining pie), try to divest yourself of the mindset that overpowered roles determine who’s a contributing player. Certainly, they can be crutches, but a vanilla townsperson can be just as important as a Cop or a Man-Of-A-Thousand-Tricks like **NAF** here. It is worth remembering, of course, that in the end-game, VTs _will_ get lynched if they haven’t been confirmed, but they can make a very positive contribution in the hunt for scum. The best players of this game will all tell you that they’d rather have a sharp player on their side in this rather than an extra power role. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1402 "2009-09-17T15:09:07Z")
> [@Scuba\_Ben](#): > > [COLOR=“DarkOrange”] > I am disinclined to play in a Mafiascum game on the job if Meeko is also in it – I won’t be able to do my day job AND keep up with the game. If there is a haggle game on the Dope, which we really need to have one by the way, don’t play with Meeko if you don’t like high post counts. He broke the record on our last game. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1403 "2009-09-17T15:48:45Z")
I’d forgotten about that. I went back and look and Meeko had 45.5% of the posts in that game just over 800 in 5 days. Speaking of which it’s been almost 6 months since the last Haggle and we need to do another one. Eventually Meeko won’t screw me. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1404 "2009-09-17T16:19:56Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > Not that is worth it now, but yeah. … I mean, The ironic thing is, you all got your wish on my posting level. – Not sure when I will join up in a new game. > > But again, in so many ways, there was nothing more I felt I could have added to the game. I mean, not when other people are over powered. Read the spoiled thread. Seriously. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1405 "2009-09-17T17:06:24Z")
Right, 800 posts in 5 days was a record in my book. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1406 "2009-09-17T20:12:36Z")
\*\*You woke up. There, laid out before you, was the body of Oredigger. He looked oddly happy. “That felt great!” said the ghost of Oredigger, who disappeared without another word. Oredigger, who was a Town Slut\*, is now 100% dead. Meeko’s ghost appeared as well. He opened his mouth and said…nothing. He disappeared. Guess he was the quiet type. Meeko, who was an Ordinary Townsperson, is now 100% dead. No note was found. It is now Day. This Day will end on Friday, September 18 at 4:00 PM. \*Roleblocker Note the very short Day. \*\* ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1407 "2009-09-17T20:18:30Z")
So who all is left, me Boozy and JoeyP? ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1408 "2009-09-17T20:29:04Z")
Something here isn’t right. JoeyP was blocked the previous Night. If he was the last remaining scum he should not have been able to get off a Night kill. Just to make sure Maha isn’t Idle (who believes that roleblockers can’t effect scum Night kills) HEY MOD, WOULD A ROLEBLOCKER HAVE THE ABILITY TO STOP A SCUM NIGHT KILL? If the answer to the above is yes, then we have a bit of a pickle and I will be tempted to vote for myself as scum in disguise even from myself. Cucuy got an investigation of Boozy that actually picked out his power role, and Boozy then used that power. It should be totally cut and dry that he is who Cucuy says he was. That said, I know I am not scum, and if Digger was able to block Joey’s Night Kill… As I said, a bit of a pickle. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1409 "2009-09-17T20:32:40Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > Cucuy got an investigation of Boozy that actually picked out his power role, and Boozy then used that power. It should be totally cut and dry that he is who Cucuy says he was. That said, I know I am not scum, and if Digger was able to block Joey’s Night Kill… And I know I’m not scum, I’ve also been investigated and to do you one better, I’ve been blocked when there was a NK. Did Cucuy have a fail rate? **Vote NAF** ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1410 "2009-09-17T20:33:53Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > HEY MOD, WOULD A ROLEBLOCKER HAVE THE ABILITY TO STOP A SCUM NIGHT KILL? What sort of nonsense would involve having a pro-town roleblocker who couldn’t block a nightkill? **vote: NAF1138** ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1411 "2009-09-17T20:35:02Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > Did Cucuy have a fail rate? He did. But when he failed, he got no result. He failed on his last investigation, which I believe (correct me if I’m wrong, I’m not going to bother going back to check on it) was on NAF ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1412 "2009-09-17T20:35:17Z")
I don’t know. But I do know I am not scum and lynching me loses the game for town. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1413 "2009-09-17T20:35:36Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > HEY MOD, WOULD A ROLEBLOCKER HAVE THE ABILITY TO STOP A SCUM NIGHT KILL? **No comment.** ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1414 "2009-09-17T20:37:50Z")
**Vote Joey P** Conditionally. It makes way more sense that he is scum and that Digger either had a faliure rate or that he couldn’t block Night Kills then it does that Boozy is scum or that I was lied to about my alignment. Boozy. Honestly. Look at my play. How does any of it make sense as me being scum? ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1415 "2009-09-17T20:39:34Z")
Hell, look at my proven powers. Forget about the lynch block, just go with the ones you KNOW I have. How does that make sense as me being scum? Additionally, if I was scum and I could block the lynch toDay, there would be no reason to hide that I was scum anymore. Blocking the lynch toDay is a win for scum. All I would need to do was stop toDay’s lynch and the game would be over. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1416 "2009-09-17T20:42:47Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > **No comment.** Bullshit Gastardly answer mod man. Not that I blame you, it’s a tough call, but still. Gastard. ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1417 "2009-09-17T20:48:26Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > Bullshit Gastardly answer mod man. Not that I blame you, it’s a tough call, but still. Gastard. Wait, hold the phone. You weren’t blocked last night? **unvote: NAF** ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1418 "2009-09-17T20:49:49Z")
> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#): > > What sort of nonsense would involve having a pro-town roleblocker who couldn’t block a nightkill? The sort of nonsense that involves having a scum investigator and roleblocker, I suppose. ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1419 "2009-09-17T20:52:33Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > Additionally, if I was scum and I could block the lynch toDay, there would be no reason to hide that I was scum anymore. Blocking the lynch toDay is a win for scum. All I would need to do was stop toDay’s lynch and the game would be over. It would have required you to fake up that claim a long time ago. In preparation for a situation like this. That’s the sort of thing that begs for an investigator look-see. Which makes sense for a Batman-level Godfather like **RoOsh** and I had in our game. Now I’ve gotta figure if **Mahaloth** is as much of a prick as **RoOsh** and I were. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1420 "2009-09-17T20:53:52Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > Hell, look at my proven powers. **Forget about the lynch block, just go with the ones you KNOW I have.** How does that make sense as me being scum? Additionally, if I was scum and I could block the lynch toDay, there would be no reason to hide that I was scum anymore. Blocking the lynch toDay is a win for scum. All I would need to do was stop toDay’s lynch and the game would be over. Bolding mine. You want us to look at your proven powers and you want us to ignore the lynch stopping power, then you build your case on having the lynch stopping power. Actually, you’re building your case on having it and not using it. I agree, if you use it today, scum wins, that makes sense. But we have no proof that you have it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801.md?page=70) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801.md?page=72)