# Weird Wild West Mafia/Werewolf/Psychopath **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 30, 2009, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801 "2009-07-30T19:03:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 72
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1421 "2009-09-17T20:56:32Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > Bolding mine. > > You want us to look at your proven powers and you want us to ignore the lynch stopping power, then you build your case on having the lynch stopping power. Actually, you’re building your case on having it and not using it. I agree, if you use it today, scum wins, that makes sense. But we have no proof that you have it. What powers do we know NAF had? He had a one-shot Daykill. He had a one-shot Vote-Change. He (claimed to have) had a one-shot Watch ability. Anything else? ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1422 "2009-09-17T20:58:16Z")
Maybe it’s time to go back and look at what was going on when storyteller threw in the towel. I don’t even frickin’ remember if he was outed when he did so, but I don’t think so. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1423 "2009-09-17T21:02:17Z")
Those were two seperate thoughts. Thought 1, based soley on what you know I can do, Day Kill, Buy Votes, etc my role makes no sense as a scum role. None. Thought 2, One of the roles I claimed and claimed early on was a lynch block. If I am not lying about having that power (and I haven’t lied about any of the others) then if I was scum the game would now be over. Also, Boozy, no I was not blocked last Night. Were you? ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1424 "2009-09-17T21:02:40Z")
Okay… so cucuy outed story, but was told twice to be careful about it. NAF claimed to attempt to day-kill him, but failed. story turned up as a vanilla CT. Sorry for spamming the thread, guys, I’m just recording my thoughts in an easy-to-see place. Hopefully, this is amusing for those in spoiled land. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1425 "2009-09-17T21:03:36Z")
> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#): > > What powers do we know NAF had? He had a one-shot Daykill. He had a one-shot Vote-Change. He (claimed to have) had a one-shot Watch ability. Anything else? Actually, it was a two shot vote change. I still have another one. I am just trying to make sure that it’s Joey I want to die and not you Boozy. ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1426 "2009-09-17T21:03:44Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > Also, Boozy, no I was not blocked last Night. Were you? I was not. Oredigger explicitly said he sent the PM off. It doesn’t make any sense that he’d block JoeyP again, either. Which tends to lend itself to the theory that kills are processed before roleblocks. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1427 "2009-09-17T21:04:40Z")
NETA: I was so very wrong about CIAS when it counted that I am being very carefull before I use it. ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1428 "2009-09-17T21:06:16Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > Actually, it was a two shot vote change. I still have another one. I am just trying to make sure that it’s Joey I want to die and not you Boozy. Please, then. Change my vote and take this out of my hands. If I’m not pro-Town (I was investigated as a pro-town vig by a detective who later was shown to be pro-town himself. We have seen that when his detective ability failed, he got no result instead of a false reading), this is the sort of game where we can throw our hands in the air and just decide never to play in **Mahaloth** ’s games again. ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1429 "2009-09-17T21:09:56Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > NETA: I was so very wrong about CIAS when it counted that I am being very carefull before I use it. Tell you what. The more I think about this, the more I know that the game is out of my hands. If you’re telling the truth about this vote-change, nothing I do will make a difference: you have one vote, and can sway another vote. That’s two votes in your hands out of three. If you’re lying, I can’t see any reason other than that you’re scum. **vote: NAF1138** ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1430 "2009-09-17T21:11:14Z")
\*\*Hey, Modly one: Can you give us a list of the players left alive in this game? \*\* ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1431 "2009-09-17T21:17:06Z")
> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#): > > Please, then. Change my vote and take this out of my hands. If I’m not pro-Town (I was investigated as a pro-town vig by a detective who later was shown to be pro-town himself. We have seen that when his detective ability failed, he got no result instead of a false reading), this is the sort of game where we can throw our hands in the air and just decide never to play in **Mahaloth** ’s games again. Fair enough then, I’ll use my power on you. We might as well end the Day at that point. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1432 "2009-09-17T21:18:17Z")
Hey, I just realized, this is my first endgame as town (2nd endgame ever)! It’s not like what I thought it would be. ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1433 "2009-09-17T21:19:17Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > Fair enough then, I’ll use my power on you. We might as well end the Day at that point. Sounds fine to me. ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1434 "2009-09-17T21:21:18Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > Hey, I just realized, this is my first endgame as town (2nd endgame ever)! It’s not like what I thought it would be. Ditto. It’s surprisingly less exhilarating than it was a moment ago, when I thought I’d spend the next three hours combing over your and Joey’s posts with a fine tooth comb. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1435 "2009-09-17T21:40:04Z")
I am still not certain that it wouldn’t have been better to let you both look and build cases before I threw my vote buy power out there, but you actually asked so I figure I shouldn’t lie. And you are right, if you are scum then I think we can all collectivly throw our hands in the air. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1436 "2009-09-17T21:59:02Z")
**Unvote** **vote Boozy** Think about this NAF why would Boozy give up his vote at lylo unless he KNEW he could get a win out of it, it’s a hell of a chance to take at this point. Frankly, I still think you’re the one, but since the only way for you to go down at this point is to vote yourself, I don’t see that happening. I’ve moved my vote to Boozy. You have control of Boozy’s vote. Put his vote on me and I die, put his vote on himself and he dies. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1437 "2009-09-17T22:00:54Z")
> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#): > > \*\*Hey, Modly one: Can you give us a list of the players left alive in this game? \*\* Of course. In no particular order: NAF Boozahol JoeyP ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1438 "2009-09-17T22:48:39Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > I’ve moved my vote to Boozy. You have control of Boozy’s vote. Put his vote on me and I die, put his vote on himself and he dies. Wait. So…you still think I am scum but you are ok with lynching Boozy instead of me just for the hell of it? ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1439 "2009-09-17T23:59:28Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > Wait. So…you still think I am scum but you are ok with lynching Boozy instead of me just for the hell of it? An excellent question, NAF. A townie might be willing to sigh and go down with the ship, leaving his vote on a scum as a last gasp. A scum player might move his vote in order to give you mind to pause and reconsider. \*\* unvote: NAF1138 vote: JoeyP\*\* My that was a tasty brew I just had. I’ve gotta get some of that secret ingredient stocked in the Conspiracy Bar. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1440 "2009-09-18T00:18:58Z")
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