# Weird Wild West Mafia/Werewolf/Psychopath **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 30, 2009, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801 "2009-07-30T19:03:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 75
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1481 "2009-09-18T21:40:20Z")
> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#): > > Oh, I feel totally amiss in my feelings of celebration: > > Thanks, **Mahaloth** , for a great game. Nicely balanced, on reflection. We are getting far too weird about assuming all sorts of things about the nature of this game, and it’s nice to have those things be shaken up a little (NAF is way too powerful: he must be an unmentioned third party!) without upsetting game balance. Great color work, as well, especially getting input from slain players. I keep hearing mumblings about the game being unbalance, but to my untrained eye, I think it was just fine. Considering it ended up coming down to two town and one scum (as opposed to, say, 5 or 6 town alive at end game). ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1482 "2009-09-18T21:59:59Z")
Yeah, I don’t think it as unbalanced at all. There were elements that may have been a little less than fair to either side, but on the whole I think the unfair elements balanced out nicely and the game itself worked well. The game was hard, but that doesn’t mean it was unballanced, it just means it was good. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1483 "2009-09-18T22:15:19Z")
The game itself worked fabulously. It was great fun to follow along with, both spoiled and not. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1484 "2009-09-18T22:22:15Z")
Now that the game is over, I have to ask, what’s everyone’s opinion on messing with another player. I have to admit that near the beginning I was messing with Meeko to keep him worked up. IME, the game slows to a halt when he gets like that so I tried to do fire him up, then back off a little and let everyone else get all fired up. Once it dies down, I start it back up a little (it started to really work in my favor when people started voting him). On the one hand, Ped mentioned that the idea kinda bugged him and seemed unfair, my opinion was that, at the heart of it, this game is all about social engineering. Yeah, I was using his personality to work against town, but that’s what this game is all about. It’s not a game of randomness (like a dice game is), it’s all about how people react to the other players. So, is it fair to get people worked up to slow the scum hunting down? FTR, I’m not just talking about me doing it to Meeko, I’ve seen Paul (or was it Peeker) do it also (to me). ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1485 "2009-09-18T23:00:28Z")
Alright way to go town. I’m off to read the spoiler boards before I make any comments. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1486 "2009-09-18T23:29:56Z")
Well. I’m not sure what to make of all of this. I kinda dropped off long before my death. Then again, if I had to pick between playing Mafia all day, or learning the ins and outs at my new Job… I love you guys, but, you know, I got to get money in here sooner or later. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1487 "2009-09-18T23:36:40Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > So, is it fair to get people worked up to slow the scum hunting down? > FTR, I’m not just talking about me doing it to Meeko, I’ve seen Paul (or was it Peeker) do it also (to me). Totally fair. It’s also totally fair to lynch someone for doing the same. But as Hoopy said (somewhere) scum are always at a slight disadvantage in a well balanced game, so my feeling is that it’s ok for them to fight a little dirty. Town needs to recognize that it’s not ok for town to fight dirty though, because seeing who is fighting dirty is a great way to help pick out scum. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1488 "2009-09-18T23:37:43Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > Well. I’m not sure what to make of all of this. > > I kinda dropped off long before my death. > > Then again, if I had to pick between playing Mafia all day, or learning the ins and outs at my new Job… I love you guys, but, you know, I got to get money in here sooner or later. Eventually you will figure out how to do both. We all do. At this point you are trapped. Don’t try to fight it, mafia has already won. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1489 "2009-09-18T23:43:43Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Will the game with **pede** be here? I’m about due for another game, but I don’t like venturing out into the cold, dark depths of the Internet alone. It will be here. And yes, it will be awesome. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1490 "2009-09-19T00:21:12Z")
> [@](#): > > Totally fair. It’s also totally fair to lynch someone for doing the same. That’s the stance I’d take, too. Likewise, I’ve seen Scum going ballistic (or faking the same) all on their own, as a way to distract from what they see as an impending Town win, and I’ve voted on that basis, too (one of the lynches I spearheaded in the Lost game was based on that-- For a short while, it looked like we might be able to get to where the confirmed were a majority of living players, and someone (I can’t remember whom offhand) got extremely upset at the possibility). ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1491 "2009-09-19T00:25:17Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Will the game with **pede** be here? I’m about due for another game, but I don’t like venturing out into the cold, dark depths of the Internet alone. Yes, as ped said already. And you are all invited. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1492 "2009-09-19T01:39:06Z")
Ah, I found what I was referring to in my previous post-- [It was **ShadowFacts**](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11307349#post11307349). ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1493 "2009-09-19T01:52:11Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > Eventually you will figure out how to do both. We all do. At this point you are trapped. Don’t try to fight it, mafia has already won. Well, to be fair here NAF, I have only been at my job for 8 work days. So, yeah, sitting out for a bit. Then again, wasn’t that my plan for this game? … And then I started up another one on top of that. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1494 "2009-09-19T03:03:18Z")
I was one of those who initially thought that the unblockable-kill Godfather was unbalanced, but in retrospect it was more of a monkey wrench than anything else. ---
**Author:** ![cucuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7feea3/32.png) [@cucuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cucuy)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1495 "2009-09-19T20:34:17Z")
Great game, guys! Way to go, Town! I had my suspicions about JoeyP after after he came up as Town in my investigation but didn’t put it together that he might be undetectable as a Godfather role until after I died. It made sense I saw USCDiver as scum since he was a Miller, but again I missed that until too late. All told, my failure rate never actually materialized— I had 100% responses to all investigations, as any full-power Investigator would know, those results will come up in any game. Great game, Mahaloth! Thanks for having me play, and thanks to Tom for allowing me to come in. This was my first time participating in Dope Mafia and I hope I can play another game soon. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1496 "2009-09-19T20:56:10Z")
Just go here: > **[Login Required | Mahaloth's Message Board](https://mahaloth.proboards.com/)** > > Visit our forum at: mahaloth.proboards.com And I’ll approve anyone for spoiler discussion or a chance to see the scum discussion. ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1497 "2009-09-19T23:16:36Z")
When are we going to get the next one going, **pede**? ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1498 "2009-09-19T23:17:25Z")
Just for the record I did send in a block on my last Night. I followed Boozy’s plan and blocked NAF. I just rechecked and the PM is in my sent folder. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2009, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1499 "2009-09-20T00:38:41Z")
> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#): > > When are we going to get the next one going, **pede**? Soon, we’re working on some small details. Signups should be quite soon. I can’t wait for the next one. Ped’s made a very interesting game and I’m thrilled to co-mod it. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1500 "2009-12-15T21:35:35Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > Idle wasn’t supposed to have been able to self protect. But somehow that fact was failed to be communicated to him clearly. Pardon me, but this is wrong. It wasn’t communicated to me _at all_, in case you forgotten. 😛 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801.md?page=74) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801.md?page=76)