# Weirdest relationships in comc books **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 28, 2015, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weirdest-relationships-in-comc-books/736015 "2015-10-28T21:05:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weirdest-relationships-in-comc-books/736015/41 "2015-10-29T19:47:14Z")
OK, I thought this one took the cake, but I’d forgotten about the Summers clan. yeesh! Anyway, I’ll share it anyway. Not _exactly_ a comic, although inspired by superhero comics: George R.R. Martin’s _Wild Cards_ series. (though they did make at least one comic based on it) Anyway, there’s a character named Cameo, who has the superpower to channel dead people by touching their belongings. (Technically, it’s just the imprint left on the belongings, not the real spirit of the person, because they only remember up to the last time they touched the object.) When she does this, she kind of “rides along” in the back of her head, while the dead person takes over. (and she can use whatever powers that person might have had, too.) Anyway, she’s in love with a guy named Nick, who she’s never actually met because he’s dead and she has his fedora to channel him with. Then there’s Jonathan “Bugsy” Hive (who can transform in full or in part into a swarm of green wasps). He was dating a girl named Aliyah , a.k.a. Simoon (dust/whirlwind powers) who died. But Cameo was able to channel her through her earring and let her continue the relationship. So Bugsy loves Simoon who sometimes inhabits Cameo who loves Nick, who also sometimes inhabits Cameo. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weirdest-relationships-in-comc-books/736015/42 "2015-10-29T19:49:01Z")
The Starbrand guy and his retarded\* fucktoy “Debbie-the-Duck” who is a mentally challenged woman/girl. That alone–a creepy 30-something guy preying on a mentally disabled girl-is bad enough, but the writer, Jim Shooter, point-blank said that he based Starbrand on himself and “Debbie-the-Duck” was just like one of his old girlfriends. \*I mean that literally. Developmentally disabled. She had an IQ of about 80…her mental age was about 7 years old and she thought it was \ hysterically funny to \ say “quack” at \ random points in a sentence \" ---
**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weirdest-relationships-in-comc-books/736015/43 "2015-10-29T20:02:41Z")
Are you writing the [second part of this article](http://www.cracked.com/article_16230_the-6-creepiest-comic-book-characters-all-time.html), Skald? Anywhoo… one of the creepiest/weirdest relationships in ALL fiction is probably between Golden Age Supergirl and the Super-horse Comet. He is really in love with her. Even transfmogrifies into a humanoid. And back. ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weirdest-relationships-in-comc-books/736015/44 "2015-10-29T20:04:10Z")
It’s been a while but I don’t recall Debbie the Duck being 7 years old mentally. I know she had self esteem issues and wasn’t smart but it didn’t seem that extreme. > **[Debbie the Duck (Character) - Comic Vine](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/debbie-the-duck/4005-30335/)** > > Debbie "the Duck" Fix (a.k.a. Madeline Felix) is a close friend and confidante of Ken Connell. Though he treats her poorly, she is nevertheless infatuated with him. She gives birth to the Starchild. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weirdest-relationships-in-comc-books/736015/45 "2015-10-29T20:21:53Z")
> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#): > > It’s been a while but I don’t recall Debbie the Duck being 7 years old mentally. I know she had self esteem issues and wasn’t smart but it didn’t seem that extreme. > > [http://www.comicvine.com/debbie-the-duck/4005-30335/](http://www.comicvine.com/debbie-the-duck/4005-30335/) Check out the panels where she thinks it’s hi-larious that she had to hide on the floor of Ken’s car for hours. And how she “dint” want to mess things up for him and other misspellings/grammar problems. 7 may be an overstatement, but she was certainly far younger mentally than her physical age and was retarded. > **[Comic Vine](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/images/1300-3091514/)** > > The largest comic database online, Comic Vine features Comic Reviews, News, Videos, and Forums for the latest in and more! Hell…Sugar and Spike were more articulate. 😉 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weirdest-relationships-in-comc-books/736015/46 "2015-10-29T20:27:53Z")
I agree with the **Intergalactic Gladiator** , even if the 80 IQ is accurate, around one in 6 people have an IQ below 80. It’s not brilliant, but it’s nowhere near the level where an adult would have the mind of a seven year old. And that Star Brand guy is no intellectual giant himself. It’s a weird relationship, but not as creepy as all that. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weirdest-relationships-in-comc-books/736015/47 "2015-10-29T20:30:16Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > Check out the panels where she thinks it’s hi-larious that she had to hide on the floor of Ken’s car for hours. And how she “dint” want to mess things up for him and other misspellings/grammar problems. Odd spellings and weird grammar indicate mental retardation? Damn! That puts a whole new spin on Claremont’s run on X-Men, doesn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weirdest-relationships-in-comc-books/736015/48 "2015-10-30T00:51:05Z")
I think the official threshold for mental retardation is considered to be 70 (i.e., two standard deviations below the mean), not 80. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_John\_Marcej](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Richard\_John\_Marcej](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_John_Marcej)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weirdest-relationships-in-comc-books/736015/49 "2015-10-30T00:56:27Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > It’s especially tragic how somebody broke into your house, fettered you to a chair but left your hands free, and forced you to open and read this thread. What a monster! > > I’d sue if I were you. To be fair, you **DID** title this thread _“Weirdest relationships in **comic books** ”_ and there are other types of comic books than just superhero ones. Hell, I’d say the weirdest relationship in comics would be Joe Matt and anyone else in any copy of **“Peep Show”**. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weirdest-relationships-in-comc-books/736015/50 "2015-10-30T01:21:01Z")
Tom Welling/Clark & Allison Mack/Chloe (Smallville) _ **Kryptonite Smack!** _ WTF is _wrong_ with you, Clark…!? ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weirdest-relationships-in-comc-books/736015/51 "2015-10-30T02:42:26Z")
Whats being left out is WTF did/does Jean see in Scott? His emo angst can only go so far. Even Wolverine can tell she’s way too good for him. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weirdest-relationships-in-comc-books/736015/52 "2015-10-30T13:16:38Z")
51 posts in, and no mention of Harley Quinn/Joker? [I dunno, maybe they’re not weird enough…] ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weirdest-relationships-in-comc-books/736015/53 "2015-10-30T13:19:51Z")
I dunno, both of them are completely insane (in fact, that’s their defining character trait), so one would expect any relationship either of them is in to be pretty well screwed. In fact, if anything their relationship is far more normal and healthy than anyone should have any right to expect. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weirdest-relationships-in-comc-books/736015/54 "2015-10-30T19:39:08Z")
Harley Quinn / Power Girl? ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weirdest-relationships-in-comc-books/736015/55 "2015-10-30T19:47:21Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > Harley Quinn / Power Girl? No one cares about your sick fantasies, elf. Do they even have a relationship? And if so, how is it weirder than Harley/Ivy? In other news…it wasn’t WEIRD, but I shall mention Power Girl/Terra anyway on account of it being so funny and sweet. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weirdest-relationships-in-comc-books/736015/56 "2015-10-30T19:58:36Z")
There’s an obscure one called “Tailgunner Jo” that’s pretty weird - father and daughter are injured in a horrible car accident, and combined into one cybernetic entity with two brains. [http://www.cosmicteams.com/obscure/t.htm](http://www.cosmicteams.com/obscure/t.htm) ---
**Author:** ![Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maggie_the_Ocelot)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weirdest-relationships-in-comc-books/736015/57 "2015-10-30T20:02:56Z")
Since Terra was brought up… Terra/Deathstroke the Terminator, back in the Wolfman&Perez era. He was in his 50’s, she was…14. And it was heavily implied that they’d had sex. Ewww. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weirdest-relationships-in-comc-books/736015/58 "2015-10-30T20:14:41Z")
> [@Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](#): > > Since Terra was brought up… > > Terra/Deathstroke the Terminator, back in the Wolfman&Perez era. > > He was in his 50’s, she was…14. And it was heavily implied that they’d had sex. > > Ewww. :: slaps Maggie’s whipping boy, since I don’t hit wimminfolk :: Mention not that blonde strumpet in my presence again, or Shia LaBoef suffers further. ---
**Author:** ![G0sp3l](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c68b51/32.png) [@G0sp3l](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G0sp3l)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weirdest-relationships-in-comc-books/736015/59 "2015-10-30T22:08:15Z")
Terra, Terra, Terra, Terra, Terra, poor Gar, Terra, Terra, Terra, Terra, Terra. If I bring up Storm and T’challa will you send someone to beat the screaming jesus out of Reginald Hudlin? 'Cause seriously, putting two characters together simply because they’re both black pisses me off to no end. And the only good thing about _House Party_ was Robin Harris. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weirdest-relationships-in-comc-books/736015/60 "2015-10-30T22:48:05Z")
> [@G0sp3l](#): > > Terra, Terra, Terra, Terra, Terra, poor Gar, Terra, Terra, Terra, Terra, Terra. Shia is _Maggie’s_ whipping boy, not yours. > [@](#): > > If I bring up Storm and T’challa will you send someone to beat the screaming jesus out of Reginald Hudlin? 'Cause seriously, putting two characters together simply because they’re both black pisses me off to no end. > . Frankly, Storm is too awesome to have a boyfriend less than Thor. And I’m not sure even he’s worthy. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weirdest-relationships-in-comc-books/736015.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weirdest-relationships-in-comc-books/736015.md?page=4)