# Weirdest relationships in comc books **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 28, 2015, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weirdest-relationships-in-comc-books/736015 "2015-10-28T21:05:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weirdest-relationships-in-comc-books/736015/81 "2015-11-02T18:51:15Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > Not completely. Otherwise she couldn’t change back. …how so? ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weirdest-relationships-in-comc-books/736015/82 "2015-11-02T19:24:24Z")
> [@Push\_You\_Down](#): > > …how so? Mystique’s body clearly contains some organ or other element (maybe on a celluar level) that non-shapeshifters lack. The body of – oh, let’s say Natasha Romanov, another hot redheaded superspy, only lacking shapeshifting powers – does not. If Mystique were to impersonate the Widow, she would obviously have to retain her own unusual shapeshifting factor to change back (or into, say, Siryn, or Mary Jane Watson, or Jean Grey), and thus has not completely changed. Also, she doesn’t can’t imitate non-muscular abilities. If she emulates Jean Grey, she doesn’t become nigh-omnipotent; otherwise, why would she ever change back? ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weirdest-relationships-in-comc-books/736015/83 "2015-11-02T19:50:51Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > Mystique’s body clearly contains some organ or other element (maybe on a celluar level) that non-shapeshifters lack. The body of – oh, let’s say Natasha Romanov, another hot redheaded superspy, only lacking shapeshifting powers – does not. If Mystique were to impersonate the Widow, she would obviously have to retain her own unusual shapeshifting factor to change back (or into, say, Siryn, or Mary Jane Watson, or Jean Grey), and thus has not completely changed. > > Also, she doesn’t can’t imitate non-muscular abilities. If she emulates Jean Grey, she doesn’t become nigh-omnipotent; otherwise, why would she ever change back? She doesn’t get the special abilities or those she shape shifts into… but base physiological functions seem something her body can handle. It may be inconsistent, but considering she has shapeshifted into a multi-armed version of herself with two functioning faces…sperm production seems pretty simple. ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weirdest-relationships-in-comc-books/736015/84 "2015-11-02T20:05:20Z")
It’s all just X’s and Y’s anyway, right? ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weirdest-relationships-in-comc-books/736015/85 "2015-11-02T21:24:46Z")
> [@Push\_You\_Down](#): > > She doesn’t get the special abilities or those she shape shifts into… but base physiological functions seem something her body can handle. It may be inconsistent, but considering she has shapeshifted into a multi-armed version of herself with two functioning faces…sperm production seems pretty simple. Oh. I agree that Mystique could become functionally male, and I much prefer to think of Nightcrawler as being helr/his son by destiny than as her son by a devil. (Chuck Austen can go fuck himself, which Mystique, incidentally, could also do easily). I was just nitpicking the word “completely.” 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2015, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weirdest-relationships-in-comc-books/736015/86 "2015-11-03T02:37:11Z")
> [@G0sp3l](#): > > If I bring up Storm and T’challa will you send someone to beat the screaming jesus out of Reginald Hudlin? 'Cause seriously, putting two characters together simply because they’re both black pisses me off to no end. They’re also both from Africa, so that’s something anyway? I dunno, I got nothin’. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2015, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weirdest-relationships-in-comc-books/736015/87 "2015-11-03T05:53:06Z")
> [@Dale\_Sams](#): > > Whats being left out is WTF did/does Jean see in Scott? His emo angst can only go so far. Even Wolverine can tell she’s way too good for him. Shrug, one of his powers appears to be “makes any telepath wets his/her pants”. Betsy is the exception, unless they hooked up at some point when I wasn’t looking. > [@furryman](#): > > Hey, this is the same comic that heavily implied bisexual orgies. > And how did Cutters elves get wolf blood in the first place? Oh, that’s actually explained. Maybe I’ve been wooshed, but their tribe’s first ancestress made whoopie with a wolf; both the elves and their wolves are descended from that pairing. Every wolfrider (humanoid or canid) is blood family. ---
**Author:** ![Reluctant\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@Reluctant\_A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reluctant_A)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2015, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weirdest-relationships-in-comc-books/736015/88 "2015-11-03T06:44:30Z")
> [@Push\_You\_Down](#): > > She doesn’t get the special abilities or those she shape shifts into… but base physiological functions seem something her body can handle. It may be inconsistent, but considering she has shapeshifted into a multi-armed version of herself with two functioning faces…sperm production seems pretty simple. She might be able to produce sperm, when she assumes male form, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that the sperm would be viable. ---
**Author:** ![Don\_Draper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Don\_Draper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_Draper)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2015, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weirdest-relationships-in-comc-books/736015/89 "2015-11-03T15:28:36Z")
[Howard the Duck](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_the_Duck#Fictional_character_biography) and Beverly Switzer - Howard is a duck, Beverly…is not. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2015, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weirdest-relationships-in-comc-books/736015/90 "2015-11-03T17:13:23Z")
> [@Reluctant\_A](#): > > She might be able to produce sperm, when she assumes male form, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that the sperm would be viable. It is if the writer says it is, until a later writer says it’s not.😃 ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weirdest-relationships-in-comc-books/736015/91 "2015-11-04T01:31:51Z")
> [@Don\_Draper](#): > > [Howard the Duck](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_the_Duck#Fictional_character_biography) and Beverly Switzer - Howard is a duck, Beverly…is not. Would it help to think of Howard as just a person from a place where people happen to be shaped like ducks? I thought not. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weirdest-relationships-in-comc-books/736015.md?page=4)