# Welcome back. Now fuck off.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-now-fuck-off/424436>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 29, 2007, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-now-fuck-off/424436 "2007-10-29T13:31:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![FordPrefect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e99b99/32.png) [@FordPrefect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordPrefect)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-now-fuck-off/424436/21 "2007-10-29T14:38:59Z")

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[QUOTE=SomeUserName]  
If they decide they don’t want to be a member after thirty days then no harm no foul or they get the membership fee and all is good.  
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This is so reasonable, it may work!

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**Author:** ![Winston\_Smith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e95f7d/32.png) [@Winston\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Smith)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-now-fuck-off/424436/22 "2007-10-29T14:39:51Z")

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[QUOTE=Abby\_Emma\_Sasha]  
Jesus, we get **VC03** posting all kind of racist shit, why can’t we welcome back a long gone member?  
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HEY! This isn’t about **VC03** being a racist, and it’s not about **Otto** being a liar and a thief. It’s about board policy. Stay focused.

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-now-fuck-off/424436/23 "2007-10-29T14:41:42Z")

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[QUOTE=Abby\_Emma\_Sasha]  
Otto, dear, **Skip** banned the guy when he only had one post. Isn’t there some kind of “guest” period? You know, like thirty days or so?  
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The 30-day guest privilege is a free trial period for new people … the guy who happened to run into the expression “pan-fried semen,”’ started researching where it came from, and happened on the SDMB, signed up and is trying it out. Standard board policy is that if you were a member before the pay-to-post policy went into effect, you’ve had your trial period already – you know what the place is like; pay up or take a hike. I’m not sure it’s the wisest move, but it **is** Reader policy.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-now-fuck-off/424436/24 "2007-10-29T14:42:30Z")

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> Okay, I’m tired of teaching reading for comprehension.

Excuse me?

[QUOTE=Abby\_Emma\_Sasha]  
I kinda had a problem with that too. I got a different user name when I paid my subscription and no one bothered me about it.  
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This is what you posted and people did bother you about it. Other posters were warning you to let someone know. I assure you that if you had not paid, when **TubaDiva** showed up in that thread you would have been banned.

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**Author:** ![AndyPolley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@AndyPolley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AndyPolley)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-now-fuck-off/424436/25 "2007-10-29T14:43:35Z")

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[QUOTE=Winston Smith]  
That’s some Welcome Wagon you roll in, **Skip**. I’ll bet ol’ Gazoo can’t wait to break out his credit card.  
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Seriously, how do we know it was the original **Gazoo** and not some asshat sullying his good name? There’s one way to know for sure, have him sign in under his original name. I don’t see how this is rude at all.

It takes no commitment to lurk on the boards to see who’s still hanging around. It’s pretty easy to check the FAQ and figure things out here, especially if you’ve spent a few years here in the past.

Must every single thing the mods do be thoughtlessly criticized?

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**Author:** ![Abby\_Emma\_Sasha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e68b1a/32.png) [@Abby\_Emma\_Sasha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abby_Emma_Sasha)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-now-fuck-off/424436/26 "2007-10-29T14:46:37Z")

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[QUOTE=Winston Smith]  
HEY! This isn’t about **VC03** being a racist, and it’s not about **Otto** being a liar and a thief. It’s about board policy. Stay focused.  
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You’re right, and now I’m going to change my second boy cat’s name because it’s tainted now. My cat who used to be named Otto will now be Adolf, because I can’t give him the name of a thief and a liar.

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-now-fuck-off/424436/27 "2007-10-29T14:48:50Z")

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[QUOTE=Abby\_Emma\_Sasha]  
What do you think I was in danger of?  
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Then? Nothing. Now? Near fatal loss of sarcasm detection. Frank wasn’t saying you were in any danger back then or warned by any Mod. He was saying that other poseters were advising you to contact the Mods about the fact you were using a different name than the one you initially signed on with. IOW, “other posters were warning you about the brutal mods.”

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**Author:** ![Winston\_Smith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e95f7d/32.png) [@Winston\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Smith)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-now-fuck-off/424436/28 "2007-10-29T14:51:20Z")

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[QUOTE=AndyPolley]  
Seriously, how do we know it was the original **Gazoo** and not some asshat sullying his good name? There’s one way to know for sure, have him sign in under his original name. I don’t see how this is rude at all.

It takes no commitment to lurk on the boards to see who’s still hanging around. It’s pretty easy to check the FAQ and figure things out here, especially if you’ve spent a few years here in the past.

Must every single thing the mods do be thoughtlessly criticized?  
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Kissing the mods asses doesn’t get you anywhere, Andy, _especially_ in the Pit.

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**Author:** ![Abby\_Emma\_Sasha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e68b1a/32.png) [@Abby\_Emma\_Sasha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abby_Emma_Sasha)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-now-fuck-off/424436/29 "2007-10-29T14:53:09Z")

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[QUOTE=Otto]  
Then? Nothing. Now? Near fatal loss of sarcasm detection. Frank wasn’t saying you were in any danger back then or warned by any Mod. He was saying that other poseters were advising you to contact the Mods about the fact you were using a different name than the one you initially signed on with. IOW, “other posters were warning you about the brutal mods.”  
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Okay, if my sarcasm detector was broken I apologize. Sheeeesh.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-now-fuck-off/424436/30 "2007-10-29T14:56:03Z")

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I agree with the OP that Skip’s response was abrupt to the point of rudeness. He was admittedly enforcing the rules but the “one trial only” rule was a lot less clear back in 2004 and Gazoo was probably unaware of it (he certainly didn’t act as if he thought he was breaking any rule). But, if nothing else, it was a quick demonstration of what this board is about.

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**Author:** ![TroubleAgain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e480ec/32.png) [@TroubleAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroubleAgain)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-now-fuck-off/424436/31 "2007-10-29T15:05:24Z")

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[QUOTE=Winston Smith]  
Maybe you should. You know, just to see if the place has changed since last time you were there.  
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They can’t get a feel for the board by lurking? Which you can do with no ID at all?

I’ve let my subscription lapse more than once. You can still log in with your old name and password; you just can’t post or search. But the subscribe function is available with the name you already established. If you don’t know your password, I’m sure there’s a mechanism for getting it reset.

I’m sorry, but I am sure people would be jumping all over Skip for NOT banning/closing, if he hadn’t. Mods can’t win around here. The rules are the rules, and even if they’re not always evenly enforced, I think Skip did the right thing here.

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**Author:** ![Winston\_Smith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e95f7d/32.png) [@Winston\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Smith)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-now-fuck-off/424436/32 "2007-10-29T15:16:05Z")

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[QUOTE=TroubleAgain]  
The rules are the rules, and even if they’re not always evenly enforced, I think Skip did the right thing here.  
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Yes, he was following the letter of the law. Of that there is no doubt.

Please elaboate on your comment about the rules not being “evenly enforced”. I’m very interested in hearing more about that.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-now-fuck-off/424436/33 "2007-10-29T15:18:13Z")

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The post:

[QUOTE=SkipMagic]  
Mod Note:

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Welcome back, Gazoo.

We started requiring a subscription a few years back, so when you get a moment, you’ll want to sign in under your original name and click on “Subscribe” at the top of the screen.

Since we allow only one account per user, I’ve gone ahead and removed the posting privileges of this second account. I’ll also close this thread.  
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He says welcome back, explains the SDMB rules and asks him to sign back in.

Over all not too rude at all. He probably should have included a contact Email to take care of the problem as the odds are Gazoo will have no clue what his password was and may not have his original Email account used to sign up as Gazoo.

Perhaps someone has Emailed GazooII in the meantime with information to clear up this minor problem.

I see \*\*Skip \*\* doing nothing more than enforcing a rule. I also think **AndyPolley** makes a good point, that it is possible for someone to troll the board by claiming to be “some poster from the past”.

Jim

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-now-fuck-off/424436/34 "2007-10-29T15:18:27Z")

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I have more than one inaccessible login, on other sites, which were based on an old email address. Hence I cannot ask for them to send me my old password, and when I try to register and log in using my new address, it apparently recognizes my IP and refuses to okay the new registration. Likely something similar happened to **Gazoo** here, so I think he is deserving of some slack.

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**Author:** ![Abby\_Emma\_Sasha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e68b1a/32.png) [@Abby\_Emma\_Sasha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abby_Emma_Sasha)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-now-fuck-off/424436/35 "2007-10-29T15:19:06Z")

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[QUOTE=TroubleAgain]

I’m sorry, but I am sure people would be jumping all over Skip for NOT banning/closing, if he hadn’t. Mods can’t win around here. The rules are the rules, and even if they’re not always evenly enforced, I think Skip did the right thing here.  
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I don’t. I think Magoo posted in good faith and should be given a chance. If you can show me he’s a sock puppet or something like that then I’ll concede.

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**Author:** ![Winston\_Smith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e95f7d/32.png) [@Winston\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Smith)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-now-fuck-off/424436/36 "2007-10-29T15:22:08Z")

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]  
I also think **AndyPolley** makes a good point, that it is possible for someone to troll the board by claiming to be “some poster from the past”.

Jim  
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That’s a good point. **GazooII** might be posting from a grassy knoll somewhere, too.

Can’t be too careful.

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**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-now-fuck-off/424436/37 "2007-10-29T15:35:30Z")

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[QUOTE=Abby\_Emma\_Sasha]  
I don’t. I think Magoo posted in good faith and should be given a chance. If you can show me he’s a sock puppet or something like that then I’ll concede.  
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Who the hell is Magoo? If you mean Gazoo, then by definition he was a sock because he signed in under a second account. That’s not allowed.

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**Author:** ![Abby\_Emma\_Sasha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e68b1a/32.png) [@Abby\_Emma\_Sasha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abby_Emma_Sasha)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-now-fuck-off/424436/38 "2007-10-29T15:36:10Z")

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[QUOTE=Winston Smith]  
That’s a good point. **GazooII** might be posting from a grassy knoll somewhere, too.

Can’t be too careful.  
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Hey, what if he’s Jimmy Hoffa? You never know.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-now-fuck-off/424436/39 "2007-10-29T15:36:49Z")

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[QUOTE=Abby\_Emma\_Sasha]  
I don’t. I think Magoo posted in good faith and should be given a chance. If you can show me he’s a sock puppet or something like that then I’ll concede.  
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He is being given a chance. Usually when someone is found with two accounts, both are banned. This time, only the second account was banned with a request to use the original account.

People simply don’t get two accounts here. That’s how it is.

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**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-now-fuck-off/424436/40 "2007-10-29T15:38:38Z")

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[QUOTE=Abby\_Emma\_Sasha]  
I don’t. I think Magoo posted in good faith and should be given a chance. If you can show me he’s a sock puppet or something like that then I’ll concede.  
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He WAS given a chance. He was told to log in using his old credentials. He was banned for life.

[QUOTE=AndyPolley]  
Must every single thing the mods do be thoughtlessly criticized?  
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Apparently. Sheesh, people. :rolleyes:

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