# Welcome back to Paragon City - how to play the revived City of Heroes

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** video-games-e-games\
**Created:** [May 21, 2019, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-to-paragon-city-how-to-play-the-revived-city-of-heroes/834264 "2019-05-21T02:48:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2019, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-to-paragon-city-how-to-play-the-revived-city-of-heroes/834264/61 "2019-06-23T16:42:08Z")

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Yep, I’ve already recreated another alt; this time with a more fitting name. Elec/Elec Blaster, name of Tarmonpesae (actually supposed to be Tarmonpesä but the client can’t handle special characters). Started him off in Praetoria.

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**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2019, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-to-paragon-city-how-to-play-the-revived-city-of-heroes/834264/62 "2019-06-23T17:06:24Z")

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> [@Dangerosa](#):
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> Brainiac keeps wanting to play through old sets, so the highest character I have is Eliza. I never played through a lot of types - I never got a controller past 30, never got a tank into the 20s - so I want to play new characters.

Well, one of the alts I recreated has a completely different build–Little Tin God was a Titan Weapons/Willpower scrapper on Live, and now he’s a Dark/Time controller (both sets I’ve never played). He’s got the same name, appearance, and backstory, though, so I consider him the same character.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2019, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-to-paragon-city-how-to-play-the-revived-city-of-heroes/834264/63 "2019-06-23T17:53:15Z")

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Just added Cerulean Cool (Ice/Shield Scrapper), the ordinary PPD officer who found a shield generator while on patrol.

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**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-to-paragon-city-how-to-play-the-revived-city-of-heroes/834264/64 "2019-06-24T14:26:36Z")

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> [@Balance](#):
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> Well, one of the alts I recreated has a completely different build–Little Tin God was a Titan Weapons/Willpower scrapper on Live, and now he’s a Dark/Time controller (both sets I’ve never played). He’s got the same name, appearance, and backstory, though, so I consider him the same character.

Eliza did get guns - kinetic blast as a secondary was horrible on her. Guns is far more fun.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-to-paragon-city-how-to-play-the-revived-city-of-heroes/834264/65 "2019-06-25T00:24:04Z")

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Flaminatrix dinged 31 this afternoon, after going through an insanely long storyline revolving around the Circle of Thorns and the Banished Pantheon (with a bit of Warriors tossed in for fun) - the Scroll of Tielekku (sp?) storyline. Fun arc, but I’m thinking it would be cool if I could stumble into a storyline involving villain groups that drop Mutation enhancements. I keep ending up fighting Magic groups.  
Anyway, I plowed through most of that story arc without stopping, so the recipes and salvage just piled up. I was able to return to base and craft myself a great big stack of IOs. I had to withdraw a good number of common salvage from the racks, but once I was finished I deposited all of my remaining common salvage.

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**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-to-paragon-city-how-to-play-the-revived-city-of-heroes/834264/66 "2019-06-25T16:04:18Z")

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> [@Mister\_Rik](#):
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> Flaminatrix dinged 31 this afternoon, after going through an insanely long storyline revolving around the Circle of Thorns and the Banished Pantheon (with a bit of Warriors tossed in for fun) - the Scroll of Tielekku (sp?) storyline. Fun arc, but I’m thinking it would be cool if I could stumble into a storyline involving villain groups that drop Mutation enhancements. I keep ending up fighting Magic groups.  
> Anyway, I plowed through most of that story arc without stopping, so the recipes and salvage just piled up. I was able to return to base and craft myself a great big stack of IOs. I had to withdraw a good number of common salvage from the racks, but once I was finished I deposited all of my remaining common salvage.

Magic seems to be the best origin for drops.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-to-paragon-city-how-to-play-the-revived-city-of-heroes/834264/67 "2019-06-25T18:01:40Z")

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I put some Science SOs in the base storage thingy. Think they are about level 30. My main, Kahbueme, is magic origin and can’t use them.

Speaking of him, Kahbueme is level 33 now. Mostly solo, with an occasional team. think I’ve run two task forces…Posi 1 and Moonfire.

My brute is 18. so I guess I need to read up on how to get from Imperial City back to the regular game world.

My corrupter is 17, living large on the red side.

I think my next alt will be a recreation of my old main, Invulnerable/Super Strength Tanker named Angus McKenzie.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-to-paragon-city-how-to-play-the-revived-city-of-heroes/834264/68 "2019-06-25T18:24:18Z")

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My Martial Art/Invuln scrapper, Swift Justice, recently hit 20. I wish I had more time to play. I have so much fun with him.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-to-paragon-city-how-to-play-the-revived-city-of-heroes/834264/69 "2019-06-25T21:11:41Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> My brute is 18. so I guess I need to read up on how to get from Imperial City back to the regular game world.

IIRC, the Praetorian storyline ends with sending you to Paragon.

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**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-to-paragon-city-how-to-play-the-revived-city-of-heroes/834264/70 "2019-06-26T16:58:56Z")

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> [@Mister\_Rik](#):
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> IIRC, the Praetorian storyline ends with sending you to Paragon.

At level 20, I believe. So you can literally shoot your way there.

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**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-to-paragon-city-how-to-play-the-revived-city-of-heroes/834264/71 "2019-06-26T17:25:38Z")

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I was firmly established on Excelsior before the SDMB picked a server, so I would only be a tourist on Everlasting, but might pop by occasionally.

Highest is a 31 Savage Melee/Willpower Scrapper, the **American Pit Bull**. Talk about Willpower, I went to bed at 31.9, postponing the capstone primary power I’d get at 32, heh.

But I have several mid-level characters now…altitis indeed.

The **Stormy Knight** : 28 Storm/Dark Defender. Gosh I love Storm.

The **Longbowman** : 26 Archery/Tactical Arrow Blaster

The **Great Wave** : 23 Water/Martial Blaster

**Annapurna** : 20 Ice/Time Controller

**Ironclad** : 16 Inv/SS Tanker

…and, let’s see…28 others…heh.

One observation I’m dying to share: I’ve read a lot of praise for the “ranged powers only, no blapping” composition of the Tactical Arrow secondary. I have been enjoying it. BUT, that said, when I started leveling the 23 Water/Martial Blaster, I rediscovered how much I like blapping. And /martial is a great secondary for blapping, because the sustain power has a PBAoE slow and flee effect. So instead of everybody and his brother pounding me into a grease spot while I melee, the effect is “everyone is slowly running around mostly ignoring me and trying to get out of the radius” while I kick the ever-loving bejeebers out of one of them. The slow/flee is _really great_ for getting into melee range. Add to that there’s a teleport-into-the-pack PBAoE attack (I forget the name), which is a great way to close in after the water blasts are on cooldown. Not sure how great it is for damage, as I have nothing slotted in it so far.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-to-paragon-city-how-to-play-the-revived-city-of-heroes/834264/72 "2019-06-26T19:34:24Z")

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Ah, the joys of trying to hit +1 mobs at low levels. Fighting a Vahz Reaper on my level 16, magic-origin, SS/Inv brute, and he’s down to that last sliver of health:  
JAB! (misses)  
PUNCH! (misses)  
HAYMAKER! (misses)  
KNOCKOUT BL… oh, it’s still on cooldown.  
Screw it.  
APPRENTICE CHARM!  
“You have defeated Reaper”

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**Author:** ![Brainiac4](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brainiac4/32/3534_2.png) [@Brainiac4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brainiac4)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-to-paragon-city-how-to-play-the-revived-city-of-heroes/834264/73 "2019-06-28T03:54:05Z")

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> [@Sailboat](#):
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> I was firmly established on Excelsior before the SDMB picked a server, so I would only be a tourist on Everlasting, but might pop by occasionally.

If you have a community and such on Excelsior, I totally understand, but they are offering server migration tokens so you could move if you wanted to.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-to-paragon-city-how-to-play-the-revived-city-of-heroes/834264/74 "2019-06-28T17:02:05Z")

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The Croatoa story arcs are a pain in the ass. All of them seem to love the “Kill x of mob y at location Z” type missions, and then the spawn rate for the type of mob you need in that location is unreasonably low. Spent hours there getting little experience just flying around looking for the right type of mob.

My Brute ended up staying in Praetoria until level 21 to finish up a Penelope Yin arc.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-to-paragon-city-how-to-play-the-revived-city-of-heroes/834264/75 "2019-06-28T19:45:42Z")

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General Kaos (orignally Gen. Chaos) the Robitics/Kinetics Mastermind has joined my alts as a Villain. Unlike Gen. Chaos, his pets are being named after KAOS members.

> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Yep, I’ve already recreated another alt; this time with a more fitting name. Elec/Elec Blaster, name of Tarmonpesae (actually supposed to be Tarmonpesä but the client can’t handle special characters). Started him off in Praetoria.

I’m pretty sure this blaster is now higher than his original incarnation as Phasenleitung; I don’t recall ever getting Phase out of the Hollows.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-to-paragon-city-how-to-play-the-revived-city-of-heroes/834264/76 "2019-07-03T00:39:20Z")

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I recently remembered having a Hero with a War Mace somewhere. Can’t recall the name or the secondary so this will somewhat new. Being so close to the Fourth, I’ve added Emory “The Star-Spangled Bammer” LaCasse, wielding a giant tenderizer (actually just a standard Mace).

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-to-paragon-city-how-to-play-the-revived-city-of-heroes/834264/77 "2019-07-06T21:01:55Z")

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Holy crap I’m enjoying my SS/Rad brute (“Roentgen Bull”) now that he’s into the 20s. He’s been doing missions involving the Tsoo and the Family, which means the mission maps are so full of mobs, so close together, that he can just go go go as his fury builds up up up. It’s a blast one-shotting mobs with Knockout Blow.  
He just picked up the “Rage” power, and I was really surprised at how long the effect lasts. He ran into the last room of a map, hit Rage, then clobbered the named boss in about three hits. Then he looked around, saw how many more mobs were still in the room and thought, “I can’t let all this rage go to waste!” and proceeded to annihilate the entire room before the rage finally wore off. It was exhilarating!  
Meanwhile, Flaminatrix, my Fire/Fire blaster, hit level 35 while working on Provost Marchand’s “New Praetorians” story arc. Quite a difficult fight on the last mission of the first arc - fighting an elite boss named “Silver Sable” (or Silver-something). Killed me in no time flat on my first attempt. On the second attempt it occurred to me to stay airborne and out of melee range. It still took forever, and I had to pound through all 15 purple inspirations I was carrying, but I finally got her. Was rather disappointed with only getting 6 Reward Merits after all that.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-to-paragon-city-how-to-play-the-revived-city-of-heroes/834264/78 "2019-07-06T21:06:42Z")

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If I go on that one website and manage to find my old toons, will they be the same level they were when I last played them?

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**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-to-paragon-city-how-to-play-the-revived-city-of-heroes/834264/79 "2019-07-06T21:22:49Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> If I go on that one website and manage to find my old toons, will they be the same level they were when I last played them?

No. All of the data on accounts and characters is gone.

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**Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-to-paragon-city-how-to-play-the-revived-city-of-heroes/834264/80 "2019-07-06T21:30:22Z")

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Okay, so I’m doing the right thing to just re-create them from memory as best I can. Thanks!

ETA: There’s a lot I forgot about so it’s cool having my memories challenged. I like the interface as far as talking to NPCs, opening doors, using ladders, etc. The graphics are a bit dated, but so far the game is fun to play like I remembered. Thanks to everyone here for this thread!

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