# Welcome back to Washington...JOE GIBBS!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 7, 2004, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-to-washington-joe-gibbs/223199 "2004-01-07T13:56:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2004, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-to-washington-joe-gibbs/223199/1 "2004-01-07T13:56:10Z")
Wah! The breaking news in DC this morning isn’t about the Iowa debate. It’s not about policy or politics. It’s not about local traffic. The Washington Post is reporting that **Joe Gibbs is returning to the Redskins**!!! WAH!!! ---
**Author:** ![plnnr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@plnnr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/plnnr)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2004, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-to-washington-joe-gibbs/223199/2 "2004-01-07T14:00:06Z")
A slight hijack related to Joe Gibbs: My sister in law is a great woman, but completely oblivious when it comes to football. Several years ago Joe Gibbs, who is a devout Christian, came to her church to be a lay speaker. After the service, my SIL, knowing for sure that she had seen hiim SOMEWHERE before, asked him, “Aren’t you the manager of the new Giants (grocery store in the DC area) over on Route 610?” ---
**Author:** ![GrizzRich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7ba0ec/32.png) [@GrizzRich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrizzRich)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2004, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-to-washington-joe-gibbs/223199/3 "2004-01-07T14:26:34Z")
[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A61386-2004Jan7.html](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A61386-2004Jan7.html) maybe, just MAYBE! \ ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2004, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-to-washington-joe-gibbs/223199/4 "2004-01-07T14:44:45Z")
OMFG!!! :eek: Let me quote a bit of [Michael Wilbon’s take on it](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A60844-2004Jan7.html): > [@](#): > > \*\*Not only did he retire to the Pro Football Hall of Fame, but he grew in stature because he didn’t come back to the sideline, because we saw his full personality on NBC for a couple of years in that odd-couple pairing with Mike Ditka on the NFL pregame show, because he went down to North Carolina and conquered NASCAR, a sport completely unrelated to football. If Gibbs does this, if he comes back to coach the Redskins, he comes back so much larger a figure than he left. > > He comes back so large that Snyder, the man who is orchestrating the deal to bring him back, wouldn’t dare interfere because Snyder idolizes Gibbs, speaks his name in a hushed tone on every mention.\*\* This is the best thing that could happen to this team. Would Snyder be so bold as to tell Gibbs how to run his team? Would he demand that Gibbs cut this guy or play that guy? No, he wouldn’t dare. Once again, OMFG!! ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2004, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-to-washington-joe-gibbs/223199/5 "2004-01-07T14:53:08Z")
> **[He's back! Gibbs to coach Redskins](https://www.espn.com/nfl/news/story?id=1702079)** > > In a stunning move, Joe Gibbs will return as coach of the Washington Redskins, a team he led to three Super Bowl > titles. He’s probably going to get $5 million a year, just like Spurrier. Only difference is, Gibbs is worth it. ---
**Author:** ![tarragon918](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d26b3c/32.png) [@tarragon918](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tarragon918)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2004, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-to-washington-joe-gibbs/223199/6 "2004-01-07T14:59:08Z")
Heh, well… I’ve been -trying- to tell Snyder for -years- to bring back Gibbs! (LOL like I would be able to say that to Snyder and that he would even consider listening to me!). But in all honestly, I am in complete agreement–Gibbs’ return would be the best thing to happen to the Redskin since he left, imho. Yes, Gibbs is -worth- whatever amount they pay him. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2004, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-to-washington-joe-gibbs/223199/7 "2004-01-07T15:09:55Z")
The [latest](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A61386-2004Jan7.html) from the Washington Post: > [@](#): > > Joe Gibbs, the Hall of Fame coach who led the Washington Redskins to three Super Bowl titles in the 1980s and early '90s, has reached a tentative contract agreement to return as head coach of the Washington Redskins, sources said today. > > Attorneys on both sides were working out final contract details today. It appeared likely, barring last minute snags, that Gibbs would be formally introduced as the Redskins new coach at a news conference on Thursday, though some kind of announcement by the team could come as soon as today. > \ > Gibbs has already been working to assemble a coaching staff… _Yeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwww!!!_ ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2004, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-to-washington-joe-gibbs/223199/8 "2004-01-07T15:12:27Z")
AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! Again, this is bigger than anything in this town. GWB could be caught on camera in bed with Michael Jackson today and he wouldn’t make the front page tomorrow! ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2004, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-to-washington-joe-gibbs/223199/9 "2004-01-07T15:15:25Z")
When my Cowboys played the Redskins earlier this year, it was their poorest and most inept perforrmance of the year, but still the Skins couldn’t do squat against them. We did everything we could to throw away the game and Spurrier and his boys still couldn’t capitalize. While that was uproariously funny in that we knew it must have driven Snyder mental, it wasn’t good football. We should have gotton spanked for such a performance, yet the Skins handed us an undeserved win. With the hiring of Gibbs, those days are gone and I don’t for one second miss them. He’s such a quality coach and quality person, a worthwhile advesary. This is awesome. The competition is back! Not only do Redskin fans have a reason to rejoice, their opponents do as well. Let’s get the Giants back in shape and then rejoice at the rebirth of the NFC East. This makes for good football. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2004, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-to-washington-joe-gibbs/223199/10 "2004-01-07T15:37:42Z")
I like the attitude of [Tom Friend](http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1702341) on [ESPN.com](http://ESPN.com): > [@](#): > > What, this isn’t big news to you? The Redskins rehiring Joe Gibbs? If it’s not, the hell with you then. ---
**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2004, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-to-washington-joe-gibbs/223199/11 "2004-01-07T16:04:59Z")
I’ve heard a rumor that Gibbs has already hired Gregg Williams (ex-Buffalo head coach) as defensive co-ordinator. Probably a good move, as Williams was running a good defense up here, though was out of his element as a head coach. ---
**Author:** ![Bruce\_Daddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Bruce\_Daddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Daddy)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2004, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-to-washington-joe-gibbs/223199/12 "2004-01-07T17:15:10Z")
Doesn’t look like this will affect the Nextel Cup teams [either](http://jayski.thatsracin.com/). > [@](#): > > The former coach’s youngest son, Coy, finished 14th last season in the Busch Series standings [but is not racing in 2004 and is supposedly ‘retired’.([ThatsRacin.com/AP](http://ThatsRacin.com/AP)), no word on how this effects the team, but Gibbs has his son’s in place running most of the day-to-day operation already.(1-7-2004) It would be a shame if it did though, seeing how he won 2 championships in 3 years. Go Smoke! ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2004, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-to-washington-joe-gibbs/223199/13 "2004-01-07T17:16:23Z")
Tom Friend’s anguish over Gibbs frequent losses to Parcells are still pretty evident under his thin skin, eh? Heh, I love it. Let the games begin. (My limited Googling skills couldn’t come up with a Parcell vs Gibbs record. Any help here?) ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2004, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-to-washington-joe-gibbs/223199/14 "2004-01-07T17:32:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lord Ashtar \* > **He’s probably going to get $5 million a year…** And a small percentage of the 'Skins to make up for having to sell his small percentage of the Falcons. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2004, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-to-washington-joe-gibbs/223199/15 "2004-01-07T18:30:40Z")
[Joe says it’s official!](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A61386-2004Jan7.html) ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2004, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-to-washington-joe-gibbs/223199/16 "2004-01-07T18:33:31Z")
Wow, **lieu** just showed me something I’d never seen before. A rational Cowboys fan! How cool! ---
**Author:** ![Rib\_Eye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/53a042/32.png) [@Rib\_Eye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rib_Eye)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2004, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-to-washington-joe-gibbs/223199/17 "2004-01-07T18:37:26Z")
Yeah. Welcome back…to Raljon. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![An\_Arky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@An\_Arky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Arky)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2004, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-to-washington-joe-gibbs/223199/18 "2004-01-07T18:45:58Z")
Well, let me be (likely) the lone voice of dissent and say that the hiring of Joe Gibbs isn’t going to lead to success on the field next season (anyone remember when Bud Grant came back to Minnesota?). I do predict that they won’t lose as stupidly as last year, though. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2004, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-to-washington-joe-gibbs/223199/19 "2004-01-07T18:47:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by lieu \* > My limited Googling skills couldn’t come up with a Parcell vs Gibbs record. Any help here? [www.pro-football-reference.com](http://www.pro-football-reference.com) has the answers. Gibbs and Parcells overlapped as head coaches in the 1983-90 seasons, IOW Parcells’ tenure as Giants head coach. The Giants went 10-6 against the Redskins in the regular season during this time, plus beating them in the NFC championship in January 1987. ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2004, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-to-washington-joe-gibbs/223199/20 "2004-01-07T19:10:58Z")
I agree the 'Skins couldn’t have chosen a better coach, he’s the one guy who Danny Boy might, and I say might, leave alone ( you can never be sure with the ego-that-walks-like-a-man). Gibbs needs to be damned sure he does like Parcells did in Dallas to Jerry Jones- Kick the old man upstairs and keep him around just to sign the checks. Joe Bugle is back as Assistant Head Coack too, looks like old home week in Raljon. That being said, don’t look for a Bengals-like turnaround in 1 year. Gibbs won his championships with a dominating O line and a strong running game ( he’d love the Ravens ), those are the 'Skins biggest weaknesses. It’ll take a year or so to turn it around, if ever. Better hope that Vermeil isn’t a fluke and old dogs can learn new tricks. If anyone can do it, it’s Gibbs. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-back-to-washington-joe-gibbs/223199.md?page=2)