# Welcome to Canadoper Pub, 2019! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 1, 2019, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-canadoper-pub-2019/827022 "2019-01-01T03:52:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-canadoper-pub-2019/827022/81 "2019-02-28T22:02:51Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > **Declan** , what you are suggesting is counter to the Rule of Law doctrine. Rule of Law demands that you do not “ignore legal niceties.” It means that you act in accordance with the published laws, in accordance with unpublished constitutional and professional doctrines that come down to us through centuries; and you do so ethically, without making stuff up as you go along. That’s a TLDR summary; entire papers and books have been written and published on the Rule of Law doctrine. On reflection, agreed. > [@](#): > > No. As a lawyer, JWR is responsible to her profession first. That means adhering to its code of ethics, before and after politics enters the picture. If somebody (politician, lobbyist, ordinary person) asks a lawyer member of the House to do something that would contravene that lawyer’s professional ethics, then that member is ethically-bound to deny the request. Rule of Law trumps politics, and it seems to me that today, JWR indicated how she upheld Rule of Law within the context of her professional ethics, at a most difficult time. Per her testimony, she claims that Trudeau never actually said directly to do something, but simply walked around the edges. If I understood that part of the testimony correctly. Other people inside the PMO’s office may have been a bit more direct. I understand both the ethics and the legal responsibilty that you and Gorsnak have stated quite clearly. If I as usual have badly worded my response, its because I believe that the AG has the power to do what is right in the interests of the country, be it a criminal trial or that deferred option. If I also understood her testimony, she was not the one that actually brought the criminal charges, she just was not going to over rule the crown that did bring about or is about to bring about charges. ---
**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2019, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-canadoper-pub-2019/827022/82 "2019-03-02T00:48:55Z")
[Virtuecrats](https://nationalpost.com/opinion/rex-murphy-the-trudeau-virtuecrats-come-tumbling-down) Heh. Not heard that term before. Re. **Barbarian** : Agreed. So, SNC can’t bid on federal contracts. There are many competent companies that don’t break Canadian laws that can, so net job loss should be zero. Of course, the Liberal party’s concern isn’t that jobs will be lost it is that money won’t be flowing to the Liberal party. One of the reasons they don’t see what SNC did as an issue is baksheesh is their modus operandi. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2019, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-canadoper-pub-2019/827022/83 "2019-03-16T13:44:30Z")
[A message from Environment Canada.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkDvqQKGgDA) ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2019, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-canadoper-pub-2019/827022/84 "2019-03-16T15:40:50Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > [A message from Environment Canada.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkDvqQKGgDA) Ah yes. An oldie, but a goodie. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2019, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-canadoper-pub-2019/827022/85 "2019-03-17T18:48:30Z")
> [@Uzi](#): > > [Virtuecrats](https://nationalpost.com/opinion/rex-murphy-the-trudeau-virtuecrats-come-tumbling-down) Heh. Not heard that term before. > > Re. **Barbarian** : Agreed. So, SNC can’t bid on federal contracts. There are many competent companies that don’t break Canadian laws that can, so net job loss should be zero. Of course, the Liberal party’s concern isn’t that jobs will be lost it is that money won’t be flowing to the Liberal party. One of the reasons they don’t see what SNC did as an issue is baksheesh is their modus operandi. This is a remarkably persistent issue in politics; the Visible Job versus the Invisible Job. There are many companies in Canada that do what SNC Lavalin does. If SNC went belly up tomorrow, the net loss in jobs would be immeasurably tiny, if it existed at all. Other companies would simply take on the work and hire away the employees. Shit has to get built, and there’s lots of companies who will build it for you. However, SNC Lavalin is famous; people know who they are. Their jobs are visible. Bigwigs know who they are. If SNC fails, the government will be raked over the coals for what they let happen to poor, poor SNC and all the jobs they had. The fact all the jobs were picked up by J-CON, Davis-Moreau and Bronte Construction isn’t noticed because those are not famous companies, and in fact I bet not a single person reading this knows which two of those names are real and which I literally made up just now. A similarly absurd dance happens when the government is asked to bail out companies (General Motors) give them loans that will never be paid back (Bombardier) or subsidize them indirectly (all professional sports teams.) Much is said about the jobs jobs jobs they bring, but the problem is that the opportunity cost of the money thrown at them must logically be the economic productivity that money would have spurred in other, more worthy businesses. ---
**Author:** ![Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-canadoper-pub-2019/827022/86 "2019-03-18T11:29:22Z")
It’s always fun to watch the Junos and go “Hey, I know that guy! I met him at a party” (In this particular case it was one of the performers, Tyler Shaw, who was on immediately after Corey Hart got the lifetime achievement award) ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2019, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-canadoper-pub-2019/827022/87 "2019-04-26T04:59:22Z")
I hope none of our eastern Dopers is in trouble because of the flooding? ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2019, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-canadoper-pub-2019/827022/88 "2019-04-26T05:07:27Z")
Not me, but it’s quite pervasive here. We had a very snowy and cold winter. Once things started melting the ground was still frozen, and then we had a lot of rain. More rain coming this weekend. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2019, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-canadoper-pub-2019/827022/89 "2019-04-26T09:26:59Z")
Stay safe, **Leaffan**! ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2019, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-canadoper-pub-2019/827022/90 "2019-04-26T23:47:26Z")
Evacuation in the Rouge valley complete. Now waiting to see if the Bell Dam breaks in a thousand year flood. [https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-flooding-bell-falls-dam-evacuation-1.5111947](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-flooding-bell-falls-dam-evacuation-1.5111947) ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2019, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-canadoper-pub-2019/827022/91 "2019-04-27T00:28:33Z")
Yeah, it’s pretty bad here. ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2019, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-canadoper-pub-2019/827022/92 "2019-04-27T01:01:18Z")
Yep expected to be 50cm over 2017 levels. I’m nowhere near river level but it’ll be bad. I expect Dunrobin to get hit again. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2019, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-canadoper-pub-2019/827022/93 "2019-04-27T02:30:55Z")
> [@Grey](#): > > Yep expected to be 50cm over 2017 levels. I’m nowhere near river level but it’ll be bad. I expect Dunrobin to get hit again. And Constance Bay. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-canadoper-pub-2019/827022/94 "2019-04-29T23:06:13Z")
Well, they just dedicated the entire 6:00 PM Monday local Ottawa CTV newscast to the flooding in this area, and it’s not supposed to peak till Wednesday or Thursday. ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-canadoper-pub-2019/827022/95 "2019-04-29T23:32:28Z")
Yep. My kids’ high school just sent out emails to look for volunteers to fill sandbags tomorrow to ship out to the local sites. ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2019, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-canadoper-pub-2019/827022/96 "2019-04-30T19:39:04Z")
\>10,000 sandbags! Here’s hoping the boy’s exhausted. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2019, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-canadoper-pub-2019/827022/97 "2019-04-30T19:46:03Z")
> [@Grey](#): > > \>10,000 sandbags! Here’s hoping the boy’s exhausted. 🙂 Good for them! ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2019, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-canadoper-pub-2019/827022/98 "2019-05-02T18:12:13Z")
What’s the name for a fund-raising party for a wedding couple in the Thunder Bay Area? Has come up in lunch conversation and we can’t remember. ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2019, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-canadoper-pub-2019/827022/99 "2019-05-02T18:23:04Z")
Buck and Doe? ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2019, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-canadoper-pub-2019/827022/100 "2019-05-02T18:37:45Z")
'Round these parts it’s stag and doe, but I’m guessing most people call it that. Muffin or Mona Lisa Simpson might know. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-canadoper-pub-2019/827022.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-canadoper-pub-2019/827022.md?page=6)