# Welcome to the Canadoper Café, 2025! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [December 31, 2024, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410 "2024-12-31T21:26:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/381 "2025-02-28T08:14:36Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > I haven’t heard them mention that in forever. Or anything else. Their entire platform is that Trudeau sucks and the carbon tax sucks. > > You cannot win an election in Canada without an affirmative position. He saw what was happening in the US, where Biden was, policy-wise, one of the best Presidents we’ve ever seen, who made major accomplishments in the face of a recalcitrant Congress who had to be cajoled into doing anything at all, and yet, despite all that, he was lagging behind an obnoxious blow-hard who did nothing but whine and complain. PP figured that would be a winning strategy here, and he might have even been right, had Trump not won the last election. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/382 "2025-02-28T08:15:42Z")
An in other news, looks like Doug Ford won again. That’s not too surprising, but I’m waiting to see how low the voter turnout was this time. Can we break last time’s record for lowest turnout? ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/383 "2025-02-28T09:44:32Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > PP figured that would be a winning strategy here, and he might have even been right, had Trump not won the last election. Agree. Here in Alberta, I know a number of people who are planning to vote Liberal in the next election. Who is the Liberal leader? They don’t care, because they see PP as much more dangerous than any Liberal. He’s a Trumpist, and surprisingly (to the ROC and to the world at large), Trump is not much liked out here in Alberta. Liked by some, sure, but certainly not by everybody. Look for the Liberals to pick up a couple of seats in Edmonton. And if PP continues to paint himself as “Canada’s Trump,” then I don’t see him getting a lot of support in Ontario and Quebec, or even BC. Minority CPC government at best right now. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/384 "2025-02-28T12:26:22Z")
> [@hogarth](#): > > I had to Google the names of the non-Conservative candidates in my riding because there seemed to be little or no effort to let me know who they were. That doesn’t strike me as a very promising endorsement for their chances at unseating the incumbent. It ended up being pretty close (less than a thousand votes over the Liberal candidate) but the PC incumbent held on in my riding. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/385 "2025-02-28T14:37:13Z")
> [@hogarth](#): > > It ended up being pretty close (less than a thousand votes over the Liberal candidate) but the PC incumbent held on in my riding. In my riding the PC candidate won by 40 votes. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/386 "2025-02-28T20:46:28Z")
I caught some of the coverage of British PM Keir Starmer’s recent visit to the White House, and it gives us a pretty good idea of the amount of support we can expect from Britain against Trumpian hostilities. Starmer was shamelessly obsequious throughout the visit. I don’t mean normal diplomacy, I mean utterly spineless and groveling, unlike Macron who showed some integrity, Starmer must have already started igniting the bromance over the phone, because Trump greeted him warmly on his arrival, unlike Macron who was left to be greeted by a staffer. But the low point came at the subsequent joint press conference. A reporter asked Starmer about Trump’s threats to annex Canada, and what views King Charles had on the issue. Starmer could have a taken a principled stand, or he could have fallen back on weak diplomacy-speak. Instead, his stunning reply was to attack the reporter, accusing him of sowing divisiveness. IOW, how dare you try to interfere in this here beautiful budding bromance I got going. Maybe when Britain needed our help when they were fighting for their existence in World War II, we should have told them to buzz off, we were busy sucking up to Hitler. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/387 "2025-02-28T21:13:05Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > PP figured that would be a winning strategy here, and he might have even been right, had Trump not won the last election. Even without Trump I think he might well have frittered away a majority as long as the Liberals named a new leader did didn’t have Trudeau’s baggage, His strategy isn’t working and he just keeps at it. ---
**Author:** ![FinsToTheLeft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finstotheleft/32/2930_2.png) [@FinsToTheLeft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinsToTheLeft)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/388 "2025-02-28T22:55:58Z")
> [@hogarth](#): > > It ended up being pretty close (less than a thousand votes over the Liberal candidate) but the PC incumbent held on in my riding. We managed to boot the NDP candidate in favour the Liberals. PC was a distant third. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2025, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/389 "2025-03-05T17:14:22Z")
I was travelling yesterday when all the tariff stuff was happening live, so I went into the LCBO today just to see it with my own eyes. Yep, a bunch of empty shelves with signs on them explaining the situation. I particularly liked the one empty shelf right next to all the tequila. But, weirdly, not as many empty shelves as I was expecting. Percentage-wise, does anyone know how much of the LCBO’s inventory was from the US? ---
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2025, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/390 "2025-03-05T17:35:38Z")
You can see their [entire catalogue online and filter by country (sidebar)](https://www.lcbo.com/en/products#t=clp-products&sort=relevancy&layout=card)… however they removed all USA products already. So who knows. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2025, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/391 "2025-03-05T22:46:21Z")
A quick look at LCBO financial reports suggests they sell about $7 billion worth of booze a year. About $1 billion is in US goods. Assuming average costs are divided among many goods, this suggests about 15% of goods sold at the LCBO are American. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2025, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/392 "2025-03-05T22:50:05Z")
Yeah, 15% feels about right for the number of shelves that we empty. ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Finn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/34f0e0/32.png) [@Mark\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mark_Finn)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2025, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/393 "2025-03-08T04:30:04Z")
With the large (200%+) tariffs apllied to dairy prodicts exceeding certain quotas (I assume the quota is an annual one) - how often are these quotas exceeded? ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2025, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/394 "2025-03-08T19:54:47Z")
Pretty much never. Canada has an excellent regulated supply and demand system for eggs which sees little waste. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2025, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/395 "2025-03-09T15:58:30Z")
post deleted. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2025, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/396 "2025-03-09T23:50:17Z")
> **[Mark Carney to replace Justin Trudeau as the next prime minister of Canada](https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/liberal-leadership/article/mark-carney-elected-liberal-leader-to-soon-replace-justin-trudeau-as-pm/)** > > Mark Carney has been elected as the new leader of the Liberal Party of Canada. Carney clinched victory decisively, on the first ballot. > Carney clinched victory decisively, winning on the first ballot with 85.9 per cent of the vote, I literally said “Woah!” out loud when I read that. Let’s hope he works out. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2025, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/397 "2025-03-09T23:53:41Z")
Hoping he’ll turn out to be as fiercely anti-Trump as Freeland has been. ---
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2025, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/398 "2025-03-09T23:59:56Z")
I’ve started seeing now BOTH anti-Carney and anti-PP ads. “Mark Carney… he’s JUST LIKE JUSTIN!” “PP… He’s Trump’s favourite man!” I understand how both parties want to take control of the other’s narrative, but wasn’t Carney pursued by the Conservatives too (before he left to become Bank of England president)? Kinda takes all the punch out of the fear-mongering, no? Meh, such ads are not targeted towards me, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![FinsToTheLeft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finstotheleft/32/2930_2.png) [@FinsToTheLeft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinsToTheLeft)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2025, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/399 "2025-03-10T00:07:44Z")
> [@orcenio](#): > > I understand how both parties want to take control of the other’s narrative, but wasn’t Carney pursued by the Conservatives too (before he left to become Bank of England president)? I think Carney was always a Liberal. I’m not at al surprised by the outcome, I did except more votes for Freeland. She was my last choice. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2025, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/400 "2025-03-10T00:57:59Z")
> [@orcenio](#): > > but wasn’t Carney pursued by the Conservatives too (before he left to become Bank of England president)? He was governor of the Bank of Canada under Harper, around the time of the 2008 financial crisis. He was generally praised for his work during those years, but of course the current Conservative party is trying to ret-con that, and claim he was a typical terrible Liberal. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410.md?page=21)