# Welcome to the Canadoper Café, 2025!

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [December 31, 2024, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410 "2024-12-31T21:26:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2025, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/401 "2025-03-10T01:28:24Z")

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Carney has said that Harper asked him to join the Conservatives as Finance Minister in 2012.

Meanwhile, Harper has been complaining about Carney taking credit for actions during the 2008 financial crisis, saying it was all Jim Flaherty’s doing, Bank of Canada had nothing to do with anything.  
[https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/harper-carney-financial-crisis-1.7473091](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/harper-carney-financial-crisis-1.7473091)  
Harper’s being a whiny shit. Canada got through the 2008 financial crisis as well as it did due mostly to the pre-existing regulatory structure which meant our banks weren’t exposed to the crap that US banks were. What current politicians did was largely secondary. I will leave it as an exercise for the reader to determine whether the Harper Conservatives were supportive of stricter banking regulations.

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Not sure where best to put this, but I’ve seen some people on SDMB suggesting that the UK and/or France do just this:

> **[Reddit - Dive into anything](https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/1j8v0p3/french_nuclear_attack_submarine_surfaces_at/?rdt=34216)**

French nuclear submarine FS Tourville photographed in Halifax Harbour

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**Post date:** [March 12, 2025, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/403 "2025-03-12T01:29:19Z")

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The Federal Court dismissed the constitutional challenge to the prorogation, brought by two citizens from Nova Scotia.

> **[Federal court says it can review Trudeau’s decision to prorogue Parliament...](https://www.canadianlawyermag.com/news/general/federal-court-says-it-can-review-trudeaus-decision-to-prorogue-parliament-but-declines-to-intervene/391653)**
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> The court said applicants challenging Trudeau’s decision failed to show he exceeded his authority

> **[2025 FC 422 (CanLII) | MacKinnon v. Canada (Attorney General) | CanLII](https://www.canlii.org/en/ca/fct/doc/2025/2025fc422/2025fc422.html)**
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> Access all information related to judgment MacKinnon v. Canada (Attorney General), 2025 FC 422 (CanLII) on CanLII.

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**Post date:** [March 12, 2025, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/404 "2025-03-12T01:45:23Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> French nuclear submarine FS Tourville photographed in Halifax Harbour

This was yesterday, March 10. Kudos to France! The only thing wimpy ass-kissing Keir Starmer has done so far is invite Trump to a state dinner with King Charles. “Canada?”, says Starmer. “I think I heard about it once. Isn’t it somewhere around the North Pole?”

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**Post date:** [March 12, 2025, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/405 "2025-03-12T01:50:52Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> This was yesterday, March 10. Kudos to France!

No it wasn’t. It was in 2017.

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**Post date:** [March 12, 2025, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/406 "2025-03-12T01:53:30Z")

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Wikipedia says the FS Suffren submarine was launched in 2019 and declared fully operational in 2022.

Is there much chance it could have made it to Halifax without being detected by the US if it wanted be undetected?

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**Post date:** [March 12, 2025, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/407 "2025-03-12T02:12:31Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> > [@wolfpup](#):
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> > This was yesterday, March 10. Kudos to France!
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> No it wasn’t. It was in 2017.

Are you sure? **[This article](http://shipfax.blogspot.com/2025/03/a-bit-of-everything.html)** is a survey of ships observed in Halifax harbour on Monday, March 10, 2025, and it includes the FS Tourville S637, a _Suffren_ class nuclear attack submarine. It was only commissioned last year.

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**Author:** ![Kropotkin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kropotkin/32/18045_2.png) [@Kropotkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kropotkin)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2025, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/408 "2025-03-12T02:47:16Z")

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In case you missed it, “MAGA Man,” a parody of Neil Young’s “Southern Man” for our times

> **[MAGA Man (A Neil Young Parody - Canada Ain't Your 51st State) - WNYmedia...](https://wnymedia.net/2025/03/04/maga-man-a-neil-young-parody-canada-aint-your-51st-state/)**
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> https://www.youtube.com/embed/feQN4Uc\_BVo

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**Post date:** [March 12, 2025, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/409 "2025-03-12T08:05:40Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Are you sure? **[This article](http://shipfax.blogspot.com/2025/03/a-bit-of-everything.html)** is a survey of ships observed in Halifax harbour on Monday, March 10, 2025, and it includes the FS Tourville S637, a _Suffren_ class nuclear attack submarine. It was only commissioned last year.

It’s not nearly as exciting as a nuclear submarine, but I was in St. John’s, Newfoundland, when it was visited by the French Navy ship _Monge_ in October, 2023:

> **[French (Military) Ship Monge in St. John’s Harbour](https://ntv.ca/french-military-ship-monge-in-st-johns-harbour/)**

It was pretty cool to see it come in the harbour, and its arrival certainly slowed down breakfast in the hotel restaurant, as we all gravitated towards to the windows to watch it come in. It’s long since left St. John’s, undoubtedly, but it does indicate to me that France is watching this side of the Atlantic too.

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**Post date:** [March 12, 2025, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/410 "2025-03-12T08:09:18Z")

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Hey, beer drinkers – you might want to consider a Presidential Pack of Moosehead Lager to help you get through the next four years. It contains 1,461 cans of fine Canadian lager, one for each day. But since one can of beer a day is hardly going to be sufficient, consider buying a dozen of these Presidental Packs.

Also, if Trumpian tariffs collapse the economy, the crate each one comes in could make a nice compact home until things recover …

[![](https://i.cbc.ca/1.7480970.1741730326!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg) ](https://i.cbc.ca/1.7480970.1741730326!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg)

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**Post date:** [March 12, 2025, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/411 "2025-03-12T08:21:10Z")

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Well, sure, but the return is going to be an SOB. As one who worked the return desk at the Beer Store, I rarely had enough in my float to cover $146.10 all at once. Plus, at one beer a day, most of the beer would be well past its Best Before date after four months. Really, though, let’s face it: nobody will have just one a day, especially with summer coming.

But I like the idea. I’m not sure where I could put a pallet that big, but I like the idea.

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Likely there partly to reassure Saint-Pierre et Miquelon that France is taking care of them.

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**Post date:** [March 14, 2025, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/413 "2025-03-14T04:24:39Z")

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The Irish Rovers are still touring?!?

They are.

On the “60 Years a’Roving” tour, led by George Millar, one of the group’s founders.

And I just came back from seeing them. If you like lively Irish music, they were great!

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**Post date:** [March 14, 2025, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/414 "2025-03-14T04:27:58Z")

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Send them my way!

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Calgary on Saturday!

> **[The Irish Rovers - March 15, 2025 - Grey Eagle Resort & Casino](https://www.greyeagleresortandcasino.ca/events/the-irish-rovers-march-15-calgary/)**

Oops, just checked - may be sold out.

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Wouldn’t be able to make it anyway.

Unless their tour bus takes a wrong turn at Medicine Hat. “Highway 3 west to Calgary.” We just won’t say that it’s the long way. Hmmm …

😉

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Great - thanks for “The Unicorn” earworm.

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Would you prefer 🎶“Wasn’t that a party!” 🎶 ?

I’ll be here all night, folks.

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> Oops, just checked - may be sold out.

You can always catch my band “The Record Grooves” doing the same song same day at Bunkers Live Pub in North Edmonton.🤠🤡😁😎

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**Post date:** [March 14, 2025, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/420 "2025-03-14T13:55:19Z")

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Damn! Wish I’d known this earlier - Brockville would have definitely been doable. Oh well, I’ll see the Red Hot Chilli Pipers in a couple of weeks - that’ll have to be my live Celtic music fix for a while.

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