# Welcome to the Canadoper Café, 2025! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [December 31, 2024, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410 "2024-12-31T21:26:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 28
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/541 "2025-03-23T19:14:39Z")
Thing is, it’s not just about policies. Never has been. PeePee comes across as a whiner and a whiner, even with the contacts and cool crew neck. He’s no Steve Jobs. He just comes across to me like a guy who complains a lot, not a visionary. Mark Carney is a better looking individual, regardless of policy. Melanie Joly would have been another good choice, had she been interested. Carney has to work on his French though. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/542 "2025-03-23T21:11:42Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Fascinating. A month truly is an eternity in politics. Especially considering that two months ago, projections were that the Liberals might come in third, and the Bloc form the Official Opposition again. ---
**Author:** ![FinsToTheLeft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finstotheleft/32/2930_2.png) [@FinsToTheLeft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinsToTheLeft)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/543 "2025-03-24T00:27:57Z")
I’m officially calling Danielle Smith a traitor to Canada. > **[Alberta premier faces backlash for asking America to pause tariffs until...](https://globalnews.ca/news/11094625/danielle-smith-tariffs-canada-election/)** > > Danielle Smith told Breitbart she asked the Trump administration to pause tariffs until after the election, because the trade war has been benefiting the Liberals in the polls. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/544 "2025-03-24T00:42:37Z")
Loonies to TImbits she wouldn’t complain if the Conservatives were leading in the polls. Waiting for Carney to talk to Fox, Shapiro, and Brietbart. 😆 😆 😆 ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/545 "2025-03-24T00:52:30Z")
> [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > Support for the Conservatives has remained static, and high in Alberta. But the NDP have cratered at 10-13% and the Liberals seem to have won most of these intended votes. This makes them competitive in BC, ahead in Ontario and Québec and Atlantic Canada. I like the NDP in principle and have even voted for them from time to time, but right now we’re in a Trump-induced crisis. Voting for the NDP now is like voting for the guy lobbying for egalitarian dinner seating on the Titanic. I have no idea how well Mark Carney will handle the crisis, but since PP is an idiot and the NDP is currently irrelevant, he’s our only hope. My riding is hopelessly locked to Conservative, but I’m voting anyway just to boost the popular vote count for Carney. ---
**Author:** ![FinsToTheLeft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finstotheleft/32/2930_2.png) [@FinsToTheLeft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinsToTheLeft)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/546 "2025-03-24T01:21:10Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > My riding is hopelessly locked to Conservative, but I’m voting anyway just to boost the popular vote count for Carney. My riding has been Liberal for decades but flipped blue in a by-election last year. I’m expecting it to go back to the Liberals who just retook the riding provincially from the NDP. ---
**Author:** ![MacDoc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/macdoc/32/18696_2.png) [@MacDoc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacDoc)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/547 "2025-03-24T02:13:10Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > I like the NDP in principle and have even voted for them from time to time Ed Broadbent - the best PM Canada never had ☹ The life went out of him when his wife died. then Jack Layton - another one that could have served well, > Her husband, Jack Layton, was also an MP, serving as leader of the Official Opposition in 2011 and leader of the NDP from 2003 until his death in 2011. ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Finn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/34f0e0/32.png) [@Mark\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mark_Finn)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/548 "2025-03-24T11:53:32Z")
My riding has been Liberal (except for that NDP surge a few years back) ever since Bill Hamilton was John Diefenbaker’s Postmaster-General. ---
**Author:** ![Kropotkin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kropotkin/32/18045_2.png) [@Kropotkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kropotkin)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/549 "2025-03-24T11:56:38Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > The problem with the housing market isn’t that people don’t have enough money to spend on housing. It’s that there’s not enough housing to spend it on. Surely it’s both? Made intractable because wages have stagnated for decades, the gap,between the rich and everyone else has expanded, and housing is dominated by developers seeking the largest returns on their investments. If healthcare is too important to leave solely to the “market,” surely housing is too. ---
**Author:** ![Kropotkin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kropotkin/32/18045_2.png) [@Kropotkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kropotkin)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/550 "2025-03-24T12:50:35Z")
For those interested in a left critique of Carney–when did bankers become our friends?–this article will be useful. [Carney May Be Better Than Poilievre, But Serious Issues Remain](https://www.readthemaple.com/carney-may-be-better-than-poilievre-but-serious-issues-remain/?ref=maple-digest-news-newsletter) ---
**Author:** ![Kropotkin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kropotkin/32/18045_2.png) [@Kropotkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kropotkin)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/551 "2025-03-26T12:10:36Z")
For Canadopers and others concerned with Canada/US relations and the threats of annexation and invasion, this article outlines the case for non-violent resistance. It has several good links. > **[Amid U.S. threats, Canada’s national security plans must include training in...](https://theconversation.com/amid-u-s-threats-canadas-national-security-plans-must-include-training-in-non-violent-resistance-252451?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Latest%20from%20The%20Conversation%20for%20March%2026%202025&utm_content=Latest%20from%20The%20Conversation%20for%20March%2026%202025%2BCID_0d86c47976c37b87e6e216f6e9a015ad&utm_source=campaign_monitor_ca&utm_term=Amid%20US%20threats%20Canadas%20national%20security%20plans%20must%20include%20training%20in%20non-violent%20resistance)** > > Amid the ongoing threats against Canadian sovereignty, Canada is an ideal candidate for effective civil defence. It is of course unlikely the government would provide such training, because it would be used by those who challenge the agenda of business and government, but other groups could take it up. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/552 "2025-03-26T17:39:52Z")
Today’s Economist polls show the Libs at 43%, Cons at 37%, and NDP down to 9%. > **[2025 Canada election poll tracker](https://www.economist.com/interactive/2025-canada-election)** > > Monitor our tracker of nationwide polls to see who is ahead in the race Today’s CBC “average of polls” shows the Libs up 40% to 37% with an 87% chance of winning the most seats. > **[Poll Tracker](https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/elections/poll-tracker/canada/)** > > If an election were held today, who would win? The CBC News Poll Tracker is your guide to following the polls. Get the latest numbers and analysis on where the political parties stand from Éric Grenier. ---
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/553 "2025-03-26T18:26:20Z")
338 is currently [showing a red wave](https://338canada.com/) in all provinces save Alberta and Sask. NDP is clinging onto 6 seats with 10% of the vote. ---
**Author:** ![FinsToTheLeft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finstotheleft/32/2930_2.png) [@FinsToTheLeft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinsToTheLeft)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/554 "2025-03-26T19:54:37Z")
Has anyone tried out Vote Compass this time around? Certainly no surprises from me. [![](https://i.imgur.com/39XRc3M.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/39XRc3M.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/555 "2025-03-26T20:05:24Z")
> [@orcenio](#): > > NDP is clinging onto 6 seats with 10% of the vote. The NDP is flirting with the worst performance in party history; in 1993 they got just 6.88% of the vote. ---
**Author:** ![FinsToTheLeft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finstotheleft/32/2930_2.png) [@FinsToTheLeft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinsToTheLeft)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/556 "2025-03-26T23:35:58Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > The NDP is flirting with the worst performance in party history; Unfortunately they have lost their relevance. ---
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/557 "2025-03-26T23:51:42Z")
My predictions: 1. Carney wins a minority. PP is booted. The CPC hold a leadership convention and Charest loses to another hyper partisan Conservative who was one of Harper’s “boys in short pants” gang. The NDP elect another leader. Lets say… Rachel Notley. And the Bloc endures (as always). 2. Carney wins a majority. PP is booted. The CPC hold a leadership convention and Charest wins! In four years its red Tory v banker Liberal. Charest beats Carney! He does this by ETA: I hate formatting. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/558 "2025-03-27T00:44:00Z")
> [@FinsToTheLeft](#): > > Unfortunately they have lost their relevance. Well, Singh decided to basically make them part of the Liberal Party for a few years and he didn’t even get to be part of a coalition. So, the voters figure they may as well vote for the real thing. ---
**Author:** ![FinsToTheLeft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finstotheleft/32/2930_2.png) [@FinsToTheLeft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinsToTheLeft)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/559 "2025-03-27T00:47:11Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > So, the voters figure they may as well vote for the real thing. Concur 100% with that. ---
**Author:** ![MacDoc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/macdoc/32/18696_2.png) [@MacDoc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacDoc)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/560 "2025-03-27T05:15:07Z")
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