# Welcome to the Canadoper Café, 2025!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [December 31, 2024, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410 "2024-12-31T21:26:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/782 "2025-09-19T02:55:13Z")

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Let me guess:

“Bless you” ?

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/783 "2025-09-19T03:07:40Z")

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You’re too kind, @Northern_Piper . I might use something a little stronger, but that’s just me.

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**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/784 "2025-09-19T03:09:02Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> I might use something a little stronger, but that’s just me.

Mine would have ”……..you” at the end but not “bless” at the beginning.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/785 "2025-09-19T03:47:06Z")

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Bless your heart is three words…

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**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/786 "2025-09-19T04:21:45Z")

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> [@Dr\_Paprika](#):
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> Bless your heart is three words

Mine would have been two word, the second one being ———- you.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/787 "2025-09-19T13:37:03Z")

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Yes, your point was already very clear. My post was meant to be slightly sardonic.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/788 "2025-09-19T15:37:33Z")

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I think it’s past time for ‘elbows up’ to morph into ‘drop the gloves’.

What frustrates me is the number of companies and nations who are willing to grovel and submit to the current US administration. You have to stand up to bullies - appeasement never works!

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**Author:** ![velomont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8491ac/32.png) [@velomont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velomont)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/789 "2025-09-19T18:57:14Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> What frustrates me is the number of companies and nations who are willing to grovel and submit to the current US administration. You have to stand up to bullies - appeasement never works!

Especially regarding nations, and as a Canadian, this really concerns me in that I fear that we’ll just be shut out of every other country’s successful suck-up program (eg the UK and the recent state visit). I can only hope that all of that is just a humungous time-buying exercise while, behind the scenes, all of the non-US “free world” nations are colluding on various deals and super-deals that exclude, and render us all somewhat safe from, economic punishment from the US.

And so far, I certainly trust Carney and, unless proven otherwise, I believe that we are fortunate to have him.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/790 "2025-09-19T19:35:13Z")

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“difficult to find Canadians who are passionate about the American-Canadian relationship”

Oh, we’re _passionate_ about it, just not in the way you want…

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2025, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/791 "2025-09-20T00:09:59Z")

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I hate to say it, but my country’s ambassador to our longtime ally in the north is either stoopid or willfully obtuse. Maybe… both?

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2025, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/792 "2025-09-21T02:58:39Z")

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Some pushback:

> When you kick the dog, you can’t blame it for snarling back," said Flavio Volpe, president of the Automotive Parts Manufacturers’ Association and member of the prime minister’s Canada-U.S. relations council.

[https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/us-ambassador-anti-americanism-pushback-canada-1.7639396](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/us-ambassador-anti-americanism-pushback-canada-1.7639396)

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2025, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/793 "2025-10-13T14:29:18Z")

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Happy Thanksgiving, everyone!

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**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2025, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/794 "2025-10-13T15:49:26Z")

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Happy Thanksgiving up there from the windswept Great Plains!

Must be tempting to want to switch Canada’s Thanksgiving to the Fourth of July. Every Fourth of July.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2025, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/795 "2025-10-20T12:45:29Z")

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The most remarkable thing about **[this blameless Canadian couple heading down to Florida for the winter](https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/snowbirds-u-s-registration-9.6943354)** being fingerprinted and photographed, and their RV thoroughly searched, isn’t so much this new tyranny as the fact that no one at the border actually knows what the fuck they’re doing. Welcome to the idiocracy of TrumpWorld, where no one knows anything and nothing makes sense.

Personally, I plan to visit the US sometime around when hell freezes over.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2025, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/796 "2025-10-20T12:53:42Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> The most remarkable thing about **[this blameless Canadian couple heading down to Florida for the winter](https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/snowbirds-u-s-registration-9.6943354)** being fingerprinted and photographed, and their RV thoroughly searched, isn’t so much this new tyranny as the fact that no one at the border actually knows what the fuck they’re doing. Welcome to the idiocracy of TrumpWorld, where no one knows anything and nothing makes sense.

They chose to vacation there. I have no sympathy. Oh, boo hoo, they were held up a little. Let me just get out the world’s smallest violin and play a sad song for the massive indignity of a routine check crossing an international border.

And anyway, if an American couple drove an RV up here would anyone really have a problem with it being searched? You don’t have an unfettered right to just drive into a country you aren’t a citizen of.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2025, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/797 "2025-10-21T08:16:27Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> And anyway, if an American couple drove an RV up here would anyone really have a problem with it being searched?

No, but having crossed the border on a great many occasions in better and less hostile times, a search would be considered quite unusual. But would Canadian authorities insist on fingerprinting and photographing a visiting elderly American couple? Are you really trying to deny that the Orange Buffoon currently tyrannizing the North American landscape is a factor in this?

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**Author:** ![MacDoc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/macdoc/32/18696_2.png) [@MacDoc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacDoc)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2025, 8:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/798 "2025-10-21T08:34:24Z")

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It may not have been a factor tho the finger printing is distressing. I’ve crossed hundreds of times but once on the mcycle was put through a thorough search purely because of random choice ….buddy ridinwith me was not. Officer said it was random.

Finger printing tho …..🤬 I think it likely their number came up for a search.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2025, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/799 "2025-10-21T10:23:02Z")

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During the first Trump administration, the US CPB felt empowered to implement arbitrary and draconian restrictions in the midst of the “Muslim ban” and rampant xenophobia. **[This young woman](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/canadian-denied-entry-us-immigrant-visa-1.4011202)**, a Canadian citizen and holder of a valid Canadian passport, was detained at the border for six hours and ultimately denied entry to the US. No reason was given, but just look at her name and how brown her skin is!

This time, Trump is on a completely unhinged rampage – things are 10 times worse and, unsurprisingly, Canadian tourism to the US is down very dramatically. Frankly, I’m surprised there are any Canadians going to the US at all. And we used to be the global exemplars of the best possible international neighbours!

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2025, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/800 "2025-10-21T13:07:08Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> No, but having crossed the border on a great many occasions in better and less hostile times, a search would be considered quite unusual. But would Canadian authorities insist on fingerprinting and photographing a visiting elderly American couple? Are you really trying to deny that the Orange Buffoon currently tyrannizing the North American landscape is a factor in this?

The photographing thing is new. The fingerprinting isn’t - they’ve been doing that routinely for long stay for a long time. And searching RVs is pretty common both ways.

Trump is evil, but I have no sympathy for a Canadian visiting the USA at all, or for a Canadian driving a whole goddamned house to another country being surprised they might want to look inside it.

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2025, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/801 "2025-10-21T14:32:45Z")

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I moved to the US on a student visa during the Clinton Administration. When I crossed the border with my hatchback stuffed full of my earthly belongings US Customs searched everything and I had to spend an hour jigsawing it back in when they were done.

This sort of thing isn’t terribly remarkable.

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