# Welcome to the Canadoper Café, 2025!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [December 31, 2024, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410 "2024-12-31T21:26:25Z")\
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**Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/101 "2025-01-12T21:43:11Z")

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This paragraph has really brightened my day

> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> To Donald Trump, from one old guy to another: Give your head a shake! What could make you think that Canadians would ever give up the best country in the world – and make no mistake, that is what we are – to join the United States?"

And yeah - I could come up with a good lot of Stephen Harper awfulness, but in no hijack mood.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2025, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/102 "2025-01-13T00:49:31Z")

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Yeah, that’s a fair cop - what I should have said was something along the lines of “If you voted for the Republican party, you caused this situation. If you voted for the Democratic party, you tried to prevent this situation. If you didn’t vote, you allowed this situation to happen.”

But that wasn’t what I said. What I said wasn’t funny enough to be satire, wasn’t clear enough to be a metaphor, and is a poor reflection of how I actually feel. There have been jurisdictions where voting for a certain party is viewed as a crime, but none of those are jurisdictions noted for their free and fair elections. My comment smacks of those chants of ‘Lock her up!’ at Trump rallies, or people who feel Justin Trudeau should be arrested for treason, and it directly feeds into the narrative of people like Jordan Peterson who accuse the left of being totalitarian and autocratic.

I apologize for my remarks, particularly for their tone. Although I remain convinced that we are all going to rue the results of the 2024 US election.

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**Post date:** [January 13, 2025, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/103 "2025-01-13T14:36:50Z")

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I’lll just pop this in right here. Go figure.

> **[Alberta Premier Danielle Smith visits Donald Trump at Mar-a-Lago | CBC News](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/alberta-danielle-smith-visits-mar-a-lago-1.7429358)**
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> Premier says she had "friendly and constructive conversation" with U.S. president-elect.

And of course with slaphead Kevin O’Leary and toxic commentator Jordan Peterson flitting about.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2025, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/104 "2025-01-13T14:41:35Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> I’lll just pop this in right here. Go figure.

I’ve said it before and will again; it’s awfully convenient that the Quislings are making it so we’ve got a handy list of their names. After the resistance wins, it’ll be easy to round them up.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2025, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/105 "2025-01-13T14:42:07Z")

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My wife and I were talking last night about how we both missed Jean Chrétien. I think the golf balls moment at the Gomery inquiry was my favourite bit of his political theatre - [https://youtu.be/MD6Pzfr\_dn0?si=PqWrdNBvvA8d1SKl](https://youtu.be/MD6Pzfr_dn0?si=PqWrdNBvvA8d1SKl)

If I remember the context correctly, someone questioned the expense of monogrammed golf balls for Jean Chrétien, and Gomery commented that this was an example of Chrétien being ‘small town cheap’. Several weeks later, when Mr. Chrétien was on the stand, he had an opportunity to show off his collection of golf balls, including one from Mr. Gomery’s own law firm.

There’s a lot about Mr. Chrétien’s style that you just don’t see anymore…

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2025, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/106 "2025-01-13T14:45:20Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> There’s a lot about Mr. Chrétien’s style that you just don’t see anymore…

Chretien did a lot of bad things but at least he had some moral courage. We haven’t seen that in awhile.

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**Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/107 "2025-01-15T16:05:17Z")

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Yesterday, January 14th, was the 24th anniversary of Rev. Brent Hawkes performing the first legal same-sex marriages in the world. Here’s a video that he made about it in 2014. [https://youtu.be/TPe5KEAzBHk?si=5Nv2VctlxeVC1UJo](https://youtu.be/TPe5KEAzBHk?si=5Nv2VctlxeVC1UJo)

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2025, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/108 "2025-01-16T03:51:08Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Chretien did a lot of bad things but at least he had some moral courage. We haven’t seen that in awhile.

One of the best things Chrétien did was restrict political donations to real people only, not corps, unions, or other collectivities, and put caps on those donations. It’s the opposite of _Citizens United_ and is a stand for democracy over oligarchy.

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**Post date:** [January 16, 2025, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/109 "2025-01-16T03:55:02Z")

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I’ve seen a link to a website that sells hats and toques: “Canada is Not for Sale” and “Canada True North Strong and Free” in red & white. Didn’t have a chance to buy one today, but will do so tomorrow.

Since we can’t put commercial links up, I won’t link here. If you’re interested, send me a pm and I’ll send you the link.

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**Post date:** [January 16, 2025, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/110 "2025-01-16T04:49:19Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> There’s a lot about Mr. Chrétien’s style that you just don’t see anymore…

I recall one time, a 9/11 truther tried to give him a copy of a DVD of one of their “movies” when he was at some public autograph thingy. Chretien smiled and nodded, and then used the guy’s DVD as a coaster for his bottle of water. Just a casual epic putdown regarding the value he placed on their nonsense.

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**Post date:** [January 16, 2025, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/111 "2025-01-16T05:25:24Z")

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And then there was Chrétien’s famous “Shawinigan handshake”:

> **[The PM, the protester and the 'Shawinigan handshake' incident | CBC](https://www.cbc.ca/archives/the-prime-minister-and-the-protester-1.5009463)**
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> Feb. 15, 1996 was Canada's first annual Flag Day. It was also the day the prime minister got physical with a protester who stood in his way.

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**Post date:** [January 16, 2025, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/112 "2025-01-16T19:53:10Z")

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**Post date:** [January 17, 2025, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/113 "2025-01-17T02:54:05Z")

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The Cherry Blossom season ends.

> **[Hershey Canada stopping production of Cherry Blossom candy](https://toronto.citynews.ca/2025/01/16/hershey-canada-stopping-production-of-cherry-blossom-candy/)**
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> Hershey Canada has confirmed with CityNews that it is discontinuing its Cherry Blossom candy.

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**Post date:** [January 17, 2025, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/114 "2025-01-17T02:58:32Z")

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Sigh. I love (note the present tense) Cherry Blossoms. Guess I should stock up while I can.

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More than the actual candy, I have great nostalgia for this ad from the early 70s - [https://youtu.be/xgawtIMv39s?si=JUY6AHs92moLRGvx](https://youtu.be/xgawtIMv39s?si=JUY6AHs92moLRGvx)

The jingle is not Lighthouse, but it comes pretty close…

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**Post date:** [January 17, 2025, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/116 "2025-01-17T03:13:47Z")

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Ha! I remember that commercial. We used to sing that jingle at school. Not as part of a music class or school choir, but just because it was catchy.

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> We used to sing that jingle at school. Not as part of a music class or school choir, but just because it was catchy.

We also did that at our elementary school back then, but doing it to gross ourselves out, much like the item in question. 🤢  
Possibly the reason why I came to hate cherry more than any flavour.

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**Post date:** [January 17, 2025, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/118 "2025-01-17T21:09:39Z")

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I haven’t had one in years, always loved those things. I don’t recall the last time I saw one though.

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**Post date:** [January 18, 2025, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/119 "2025-01-18T23:57:20Z")

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The hat website is going gangbusters after Doug Ford wore one of their hats before the meeting of all the first ministers: blue cap with « Canada is not for sale. »

> **[20,000 and counting: From the U.S. to Australia, entrepreneur says sales are...](https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/article/canada-is-not-for-sale-hats-take-canadian-entrepreneur-on-very-wild-ride/)**
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> A Canadian entrepreneur says he hasn’t slept much in the last few days, describing the experience as a ‘a very wild ride’ after his company’s ‘Canada is not for sale’ hat was worn by Ontario Premier Doug Ford.

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**Post date:** [January 19, 2025, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-canadoper-cafe-2025/1012410/120 "2025-01-19T02:05:09Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> And yeah - I could come up with a good lot of Stephen Harper awfulness, but in no hijack mood.

Harper was awful, but just normally awful, not Trump awful, not near. Imagine putting a creationist in charge of science policy. Lots of other awfulness, but not in the same universe as Trump.

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