# welcome to the pit you annoying venue patrons.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-pit-you-annoying-venue-patrons/583450>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 27, 2011, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-pit-you-annoying-venue-patrons/583450 "2011-05-27T17:28:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2011, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-pit-you-annoying-venue-patrons/583450/21 "2011-05-28T02:49:18Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Now, there’s two possible reasons people do this. One: they’re deliberately trying to fuck up the OP’s picture, which makes them assholes. Two: they _actually think they look good doing that._ Which makes them idiots.
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> Either way, it’s a completely valid reason to pit the motherfuckers.

I would guess there’s a third possible reason, which is that they think they look _funny_ (funny ha ha, not just funny weird) doing this, and feel it will make for an amusing photo. Plenty of women fear they’re not going to look _good_ in a photo no matter what they do, and I’d expect there are some who intentionally go for goofy instead.

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**Author:** ![Euryphaessa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Euryphaessa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euryphaessa)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2011, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-pit-you-annoying-venue-patrons/583450/22 "2011-05-28T03:07:37Z")

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> [@Lamia](#):
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> I would guess there’s a third possible reason, which is that they think they look _funny_ (funny ha ha, not just funny weird) doing this, and feel it will make for an amusing photo. Plenty of women fear they’re not going to look _good_ in a photo no matter what they do, and I’d expect there are some who intentionally go for goofy instead.

My last roommate was convinced she didn’t look good smiling in pictures, and so every picture that she was in had her making the duckface. Well, more of a puckered mouth than true duckface, which is sort of flattened. Still, I know what you mean.

I also see duckface in pictures where girls are trying to look ironically “gangster”.

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2011, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-pit-you-annoying-venue-patrons/583450/23 "2011-05-28T07:11:38Z")

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> [@](#):
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> The OP can correct me if I’m wrong, but my impression is that people are making that face directly in response to realizing someone is taking their picture. They’re not just standing around with a dopey expression, they’re thinking, “Hey, that guy’s taking our picture! Quick! Duckface!” Thus ruining the picture the OP is trying to take, because that expression looks incredibly fucking stupid. Now, there’s two possible reasons people do this. One: they’re deliberately trying to fuck up the OP’s picture, which makes them assholes. Two: they actually think they look good doing that. Which makes them idiots.

I REALLY don’t like to be photographed. I’ve always hated it, even when I was a kid. When someone took a family photo, I’d try to “accidentally” have my face partially or totally obscured. And this was if a family member took the pic. Nowadays, I’ll allow family members and VERY close friends to take my pic, but not strangers. I’ve had people try to include me in random public photos, but I turn my head (and for the more persistent ones, I give the one finger salute). Now that I know the Power of the Duckface, I’ll be sure to use it on the next offender.

Yes, technically people have the right to take my picture if I’m in a public place. I am under NO obligation to help them obtain a shot that they can sell, though. There are plenty of attention whores who are more than willing to pose for shots. Now, if someone ASKS to be photographed, and makes the duckface, that’s one thing. But if I’m minding my own business, why am I supposed to smile for the camera if I didn’t ask for a photo?

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2011, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-pit-you-annoying-venue-patrons/583450/24 "2011-05-28T19:42:04Z")

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> [@pikey pete](#):
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> I can understand getting lit up every once in a while, but come on. Have a little dignity.

I see you do not understand heavy drinking.

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**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2011, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-pit-you-annoying-venue-patrons/583450/25 "2011-05-28T19:48:25Z")

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Thank goodness for Photoshop.

Anyhoo…why a duck?

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2011, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-pit-you-annoying-venue-patrons/583450/26 "2011-05-28T20:53:24Z")

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Oh god, concert photographers. The arseholes who get in the way of me watching the band, bitch about being bumped into when they’re stupid enough to get in the fucking moshpit with their thousand pound camera, and take photos that are slightly worse than the ones I can take with my phone.

Oh, and the drunk people? They are the ones giving money to the venue to give to you, so in effect pay your wages. You should probably get the fuck over yourself.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2011, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-pit-you-annoying-venue-patrons/583450/27 "2011-05-28T23:08:32Z")

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I’m sensing the presence of some indignant duckfacers.

Photo-shy, feeling goofy, desire to look “gangster”— trust me when I say _there is no good excuse_ for making that dumb fucking face. Shield yourself with your hands, if you must. Make “jazz hands” in front of your face. Make the _Home Alone_/Edvard Munch “oh NO!” face. Wear a bag with eye-holes. Anything, _anything_ but that stupid goddamned pucker. If you could only fathom just how ridiculous you look, you’d do the honorable thing and shred your own face off with a broken bottle.

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2011, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-pit-you-annoying-venue-patrons/583450/28 "2011-05-28T23:37:16Z")

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A link for the OP:

> **[AntiDuckface](https://antiduckface.com/)**
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> you know that face you make when you're about to take that perfect picture of yourself for the...

I must admit that it’s fairly easy to resist the urge to chuck a duckpin ball right into the mini-golf 18th hole duckface. But that doesn’t mean it’s not absurd.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2011, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-pit-you-annoying-venue-patrons/583450/29 "2011-05-28T23:59:16Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> \<snip\> indignant duckfacers.  
> \<snip\>

If I only had my custom title again…

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**Author:** ![RedWood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f08c70/32.png) [@RedWood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedWood)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2011, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-pit-you-annoying-venue-patrons/583450/30 "2011-05-29T01:04:02Z")

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Thanks OP! Now I know how to get your annoying damn camera AWAY from me…

My family can take my picture. They’re polite.  
You want to make MONEY off my image? O Really?  
Model release AND my share of the $… or it’s Duckface to you! 😃 😃 😃

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2011, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-pit-you-annoying-venue-patrons/583450/31 "2011-05-29T03:43:54Z")

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> [@Rhythmdvl](#):
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> A link for the OP:  
> [http://antiduckface.com/](http://antiduckface.com/)  
> I must admit that it’s fairly easy to resist the urge to chuck a duckpin ball right into the mini-golf 18th hole duckface. But that doesn’t mean it’s not absurd.

That site made me cry. I had to stop only 2 or 3 pages in. Is there any correlation between bad make-up, botoxed lips, and the urge to duckface? [I had never heard that term before, but I certainly have seen the pose many times]

Why the hate for the OP? People making the duckface are mugging for the camera, not trying to get the photog to go away. If they don’t want to be shot, look away or simply say, “Don’t shoot me.” Then he pits serial binge drinkers and he’s the evil one?

Is this backwards day?

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2011, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-pit-you-annoying-venue-patrons/583450/32 "2011-05-29T03:47:57Z")

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> [@](#):
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> People making the duckface are mugging for the camera, not trying to get the photog to go away. If they don’t want to be shot, look away or simply say, “Don’t shoot me.”

Eh, saying “don’t shoot me” doesn’t always work. This is why I have resolved to use the power of the duckface next time someone gets obnoxious about taking my pic.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2011, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-pit-you-annoying-venue-patrons/583450/33 "2011-05-29T04:00:43Z")

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Duckface season!

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2011, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-pit-you-annoying-venue-patrons/583450/34 "2011-05-29T04:09:45Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Duckface season!

[Rabbitface](http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljpqx1Zilq1qj49ido1_500.png) season!

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2011, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-pit-you-annoying-venue-patrons/583450/35 "2011-05-29T04:13:11Z")

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> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#):
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> Eh, saying “don’t shoot me” doesn’t always work. This is why I have resolved to use the power of the duckface next time someone gets obnoxious about taking my pic.

I don’t like having my picture taken either. However, if I’m going to be immortalized on celluloid (or pixels), I would rather they get the back of my head than one of the dumbest facial expressions that can be made. The real sad part is that people make this face not to screw with the photog, but because they feel it is an attractive or sexy look.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2011, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-pit-you-annoying-venue-patrons/583450/36 "2011-05-29T04:18:16Z")

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> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#):
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> Eh, saying “don’t shoot me” doesn’t always work. This is why I have resolved to use the power of the duckface next time someone gets obnoxious about taking my pic.

“HA HA! Foolish mortal… your puny _image capturing ray_ is no MATCH for my power to MAKE MYSELF LOOK STUPID! _Mmph_… flash… battery… _whining_… must… protrude… LIPS!”

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**Author:** ![Gleena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b3f665/32.png) [@Gleena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gleena)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2011, 10:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-pit-you-annoying-venue-patrons/583450/37 "2011-05-29T10:27:42Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> ::Makes note about **Oakminster’s** preferred facial expression in pictures.:: 😃

Puckering on both ends.

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2011, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-pit-you-annoying-venue-patrons/583450/38 "2011-05-29T10:45:19Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> “HA HA! Foolish mortal… your puny _image capturing ray_ is no MATCH for my power to MAKE MYSELF LOOK STUPID! _Mmph_… flash… battery… _whining_… must… protrude… LIPS!”

I’m trying to work my way up to my mother’s famous Evil Eye that can strike people unconscious at 20 paces.

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**Author:** ![sqweels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@sqweels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sqweels)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2011, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-pit-you-annoying-venue-patrons/583450/39 "2011-05-30T22:50:43Z")

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Yeah, I’d hate to have a good-looking girl look at me that way. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2011, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/welcome-to-the-pit-you-annoying-venue-patrons/583450/40 "2011-05-30T23:54:20Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> Oh god, concert photographers. The arseholes who get in the way of me watching the band, bitch about being bumped into when they’re stupid enough to get in the fucking moshpit with their thousand pound camera, and take photos that are slightly worse than the ones I can take with my phone.
> 
> Oh, and the drunk people? They are the ones giving money to the venue to give to you, so in effect pay your wages. You should probably get the fuck over yourself.

Most gig photographers are grand but it’s mental when you go to a gig and there’s a gaggle of the bad eejits up the front, knocking into the paying customers who just wanna enjoy the band.

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