# Well behaved animals should be allowed in more places **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [May 24, 2024, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-behaved-animals-should-be-allowed-in-more-places/1001997 "2024-05-24T00:23:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-behaved-animals-should-be-allowed-in-more-places/1001997/121 "2024-05-29T03:38:15Z")
Nice, concise and oh so wise. Thx. ---
**Author:** ![dgy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a587f6/32.png) [@dgy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dgy)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-behaved-animals-should-be-allowed-in-more-places/1001997/122 "2024-05-29T03:44:46Z")
Then why would the governing body pass such an ordinance? To facilitate selfish neighbors? When the folks behid me spent a week having new flooring installed – hammering from 7A to 5P every day – we didn’t comment. When another neighbor is now having a roof installed, again, no comment. When the “offended” neighbor power-washed his roof at 6AM, still no comment. When the latina behind us had the mariachi band playing in their back yard, late into the night, no comment. I guess we’re just all obnoxious and selfish, here! ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-behaved-animals-should-be-allowed-in-more-places/1001997/123 "2024-05-29T04:10:42Z")
You’re the _only_ good neighbor? Jeez. That seems unfair. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-behaved-animals-should-be-allowed-in-more-places/1001997/124 "2024-05-29T05:10:07Z")
> [@dgy](#): > > I guess we’re just all obnoxious and selfish, here! Sure sounds that way. ---
**Author:** ![dgy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a587f6/32.png) [@dgy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dgy)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-behaved-animals-should-be-allowed-in-more-places/1001997/125 "2024-05-29T05:45:43Z")
Of course not. We’re all – throughout the town – equally good or bad. As demonstrated by the specific examples I’ve given. ---
**Author:** ![dgy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a587f6/32.png) [@dgy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dgy)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-behaved-animals-should-be-allowed-in-more-places/1001997/126 "2024-05-29T05:46:43Z")
yes, please don’t visit or consider moving here! None of us want any more “outsiders”! Please feel free to continue to live in your sacred temples, instead. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-behaved-animals-should-be-allowed-in-more-places/1001997/127 "2024-05-29T05:54:01Z")
> [@dgy](#): > > Please feel free to continue to live in your sacred temples, instead. Yes, where we don’t wake our neighbors up at 5:45am on Sunday mornings for…reasons.   Sacred temples, indeed. ---
**Author:** ![dgy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a587f6/32.png) [@dgy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dgy)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-behaved-animals-should-be-allowed-in-more-places/1001997/128 "2024-05-29T05:54:48Z")
Have fun! Be sure not to fall off your high horse! (and, you may want to improve your reading skills as I mentioned that this was PROHIBITED on sundays) ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-behaved-animals-should-be-allowed-in-more-places/1001997/129 "2024-05-29T06:06:24Z")
> [@dgy](#): > > (and, you may want to improve your reading skills as I mentioned that this was PROHIBITED on sundays) This was as far as I got in your bloviating, and as far as I will ever get to: > [@dgy](#): > > The same neighbor recently was annoyed that I was drilling a piece of angle iron at 5:45AM, the other day: “We’re trying to sleep, here!” Sadly, he didn’t realize that _I_ had the RIGHT to do so as city noise ordinance allows me to do that “after sunrise and before 8PM – except on sundays” ---
**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-behaved-animals-should-be-allowed-in-more-places/1001997/130 "2024-05-29T11:44:00Z")
Well, that was an epic hijack. (Does anyone have thoughts about whether or not well-behaved pets should be allowed in public spaces?) ---
**Author:** ![El\_DeLuxo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_deluxo/32/9043_2.png) [@El\_DeLuxo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_DeLuxo)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-behaved-animals-should-be-allowed-in-more-places/1001997/131 "2024-05-29T19:11:25Z")
Well, if your library is a domain of cats (which sounds like a fine and wonderful thing to me, having known some delightful bookstore cats), one can see how dogs generally wouldn’t be welcome there–mainly, I assume, to spare the reigning felines the indignity and inconvenience of being chased by dogs who just don’t have any manners around cats, and to save the stacks from becoming collateral damage in that scenario. ---
**Author:** ![El\_DeLuxo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_deluxo/32/9043_2.png) [@El\_DeLuxo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_DeLuxo)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-behaved-animals-should-be-allowed-in-more-places/1001997/132 "2024-05-29T19:38:10Z")
Just because they aren’t acting out doesn’t mean they’re not unhappy with their circumstances; training a dog or other companion animal to not howl and tear stuff up while s/he is alone at home doesn’t help with the main issue, which is that many dogs get lonely, bored and anxious when their humans go away, and would probably enjoy accompanying them. I’m coming at this from the pet happiness aspect more than the human one; I think we should consider how the individual animal in a given situation feels about it, sometimes, and give the ones who live with us as friends, servitors, and comforters a certain amount of say-so in the matter. They’ve earned some extra rights and privileges by their close association with mankind. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-behaved-animals-should-be-allowed-in-more-places/1001997/133 "2024-05-29T21:59:45Z")
> [@El\_DeLuxo](#): > > They’ve earned some extra rights and privileges by their close association with mankind. And responsibility. Just like a person takes on responsibility when they get a pet. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-behaved-animals-should-be-allowed-in-more-places/1001997/134 "2024-05-29T22:03:25Z")
> [@El\_DeLuxo](#): > > many dogs get lonely, bored and anxious when their humans go away, and would probably enjoy accompanying them. Maybe it would help if one gave the dog its own pet kitty. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/kI4yoXyb1_M/maxresdefault.jpg "Dog Wants a Kitty") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kI4yoXyb1_M) ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-behaved-animals-should-be-allowed-in-more-places/1001997/135 "2024-05-30T17:25:53Z")
We could leave the house & she might not even lift her head up. OTOH, we’ll frequently take her to a park, whether that was a regular park for a leashed walk or a dog park for some unleashed running/playing with her new friends & might need to run an errand on the way home. She’s fine & _lying down_ on the backseat in her harness that’s attached to the seatbelt so she can’t go flying in an accident / stop short but OMG if one of us gets out to run into whatever store, especially me. She’s sitting up at attention, intently staring one where I went, whimpering & all this is with her mom or me sitting in the car with her. I won’t do that & leave her all alone in the car given how upset she gets when there’s still someone she knows & loves still in the car with her. When kidlet was in college, we’d sometimes go out to see her games; at her request we’d take the 4-legged one so kid could see her. We could hold her leash & sit in the stands, or walk her around the open fields outside of the stadium. After the game, we’d take the dog back to her apartment where one of her roommates would keep an eye on her while we treated college kid to a decent meal. There were no hotels right on campus so a 20 min drive to a pet-friendly hotel where we’d spend the night, it was a bit of juggling in the morning as only one of us could go out to pick up some takeout breakfast food (usually meant a sam’ich) & bring it back to the room to eat as we didn’t want to leave her alone in a strange place. I would have _much_ preferred being able to take her to a restaurant with us. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-behaved-animals-should-be-allowed-in-more-places/1001997/136 "2024-05-30T17:57:36Z")
> [@Spiderman](#): > > She’s sitting up at attention, intently staring one where I went, whimpering & all this is with her mom or me sitting in the car with her Our dogs are similar. Luggage near the door? They will lie right by it. Run into the store real quick? One will be in the drivers seat waiting for us. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-behaved-animals-should-be-allowed-in-more-places/1001997/137 "2024-06-16T16:54:20Z")
Took my dog to a brew pub the other day. They have a patio that’s dog friendly. We got tasting flights, and the waiter brought a dish of water for dog. And he also brought a dog menu. We got him the dog meatballs. When they arrived, he looked at us in disbelief. Normally when we go to a patio with him, he knows the drill: Just lie down and be bored until we’re ready to go. Great place - we’ll be back. They also have dog beer. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-behaved-animals-should-be-allowed-in-more-places/1001997/138 "2024-06-16T20:09:49Z")
One of my coworkers had guide dogs (sequentially), and one Japanese restaurant we went to often would bring a dish of grilled chicken (without the teriyaki sauce) for Gina. She would get so excited in the car when she realized which restaurant we were going to. Of course, she was an exception to the no-dogs rule, but the waitresses loved her and loved feeding her. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-behaved-animals-should-be-allowed-in-more-places/1001997/139 "2024-06-16T20:33:55Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > And he also brought a dog menu. We got him the dog meatballs. Many of the brewery food truck proprietors have gotten to know Kizzy. A barbecue truck owner sets aside scraps for her. She knows his scent, and when he brings her meat she sends some love his way. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-behaved-animals-should-be-allowed-in-more-places/1001997.md?page=6)