# Well dang. If you didn't think Scott Adams was a piece of shit before, just look at him now! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 24, 2023, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-dang-if-you-didnt-think-scott-adams-was-a-piece-of-shit-before-just-look-at-him-now/980277 "2023-02-24T06:16:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-dang-if-you-didnt-think-scott-adams-was-a-piece-of-shit-before-just-look-at-him-now/980277/81 "2023-02-25T19:01:07Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > If they were a decent newspaper they would have been carrying **Frazz** anyway They had Frazz in the online edition, but not in the dead tree edition. They’ve now moved it to the paper edition so everyone gets it. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-dang-if-you-didnt-think-scott-adams-was-a-piece-of-shit-before-just-look-at-him-now/980277/82 "2023-02-25T19:02:44Z")
OK - another half point because I’m feeling generous today. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-dang-if-you-didnt-think-scott-adams-was-a-piece-of-shit-before-just-look-at-him-now/980277/83 "2023-02-25T19:14:47Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I think you’re outside of the right wing mainstream. Most right wingers nowadays believe that they personally should be free from consequences for their speech and actions. But they don’t believe that other people should have the same consequence free lifestyle. You might be right; or you might just be basing your impression of “most right wingers nowadays” on the ones who shout the loudest or act the looniest or get talked about most in the news and social media. Without somehow obtaining a statistically unbiased sample, or at least paying way more attention to a way larger swath of right-wingers than I want to, I don’t feel at all qualified to say how “most right-wingers” think. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-dang-if-you-didnt-think-scott-adams-was-a-piece-of-shit-before-just-look-at-him-now/980277/84 "2023-02-25T19:20:38Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I think you’re outside of the right wing mainstream. Most right wingers nowadays believe that they personally should be free from consequences for their speech and actions. I must be, because you go on to say stuff that strikes me as equally weird. Take, say, this: _“If you don’t like who got elected President, you should be free to riot in the capital. And after you riot, you should be allowed to go home and not be arrested”_ — I don’t feel that way, and I can assure you that the right-wingers I talk with express the exact opposite sentiment. Atamasama says: _“Countless people on the right have claimed being kicked off Twitter for deliberately violating their rules is cancel culture.”_ Which — okay, finally, I’m glad to hear something that doesn’t sound jarringly weird: I take it that such people think the, uh, Twitter rules in question were put in place for reasons they’d describe as reflecting ‘cancel culture’ motivations and they’d be — correct? Incorrect? Depending on the specifics, I figure they could well be correct; and, if they owned their own site, they’d presumably put rules in place that reflect _their_ values; and, if given the chance, they’d probably want to make the case for their values with those who make Twitter’s rules. But: so what? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-dang-if-you-didnt-think-scott-adams-was-a-piece-of-shit-before-just-look-at-him-now/980277/85 "2023-02-25T19:21:07Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > Without somehow obtaining a statistically unbiased sample, or at least paying way more attention to a way larger swath of right-wingers than I want to, I don’t feel at all qualified to say how “most right-wingers” think. If their voices are muzzled voluntarily and they sit on their hands, does it matter what they think? Last time I checked, we don’t vote by telepathy. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-dang-if-you-didnt-think-scott-adams-was-a-piece-of-shit-before-just-look-at-him-now/980277/86 "2023-02-25T19:22:17Z")
IMHO if there are right-wingers that do not support the loonies, the problem now is that the ones that are not loonies are nowadays very painfully quiet and do not withdraw support to the ones that do crazy shit. Things like this are missing from right wing leaders and influencers for a long time now: > **[Watch John McCain defend Barack Obama against a racist voter in 2008](https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/8/25/17782572/john-mccain-barack-obama-statement-2008-video)** > > A Minnesota woman said Obama was "Arab." McCain took the microphone from her. And yes, McCain had no problems “cancelling” a nut back then. (too bad that to get support he got a VP candidate that brought more nutters into the Republican Party) ---
**Author:** ![echoreply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/echoreply/32/3641_2.png) [@echoreply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/echoreply)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-dang-if-you-didnt-think-scott-adams-was-a-piece-of-shit-before-just-look-at-him-now/980277/87 "2023-02-25T19:28:02Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Then why are they always complaining when speech results in consequences You’ve got it all wrong! They aren’t complaining when _speech_ results in consequences. They are complaining when _their speech_ results in consequences. No need to invoke double standard or hypocrisy arguments. They don’t care. They even have an answer when asked “who gets to decide what speech has consequences?” They get to decide. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-dang-if-you-didnt-think-scott-adams-was-a-piece-of-shit-before-just-look-at-him-now/980277/88 "2023-02-25T19:48:28Z")
If opposition to speech having consequences wasn’t a mainstream part of the current right wing, then why is there even a term for “cancel culture”? “Cancel culture” just means that there are consequences for some speech. Why is that worthy of its own name? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-dang-if-you-didnt-think-scott-adams-was-a-piece-of-shit-before-just-look-at-him-now/980277/89 "2023-02-25T19:55:40Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > If opposition to speech having consequences wasn’t a mainstream part of the current right wing, then why is there even a term for “cancel culture”? “Cancel culture” just means that there are consequences for some speech. Why is that worthy of its own name? I’m not sure I follow. Consider the opposite: the clichéd situation where a right-winger says _“get woke, go broke”_ when explaining that this or that corporation has taken a left-wing stance they disagree with, and so they’re going to take their business elsewhere, and they figure that so many people who agree will do likewise as to cause consequences worth noting due to said speech. Forget a _term_ for it; they deploy a whole _phrase_, and with gusto. Is that worthy of a whole phrase? ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-dang-if-you-didnt-think-scott-adams-was-a-piece-of-shit-before-just-look-at-him-now/980277/90 "2023-02-25T20:30:41Z")
It’s all shibboleth binding US against THEM. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.E](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.e/32/8932_2.png) [@Mr.E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.E)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-dang-if-you-didnt-think-scott-adams-was-a-piece-of-shit-before-just-look-at-him-now/980277/91 "2023-02-25T20:35:01Z")
“Cancel Culture” doesn’t mean there are consequences for some speech, it refers quite specifically to complaining about consequences for speech that one thinks should be consequence-free. It’s always deployed as a reaction to someone being censured for something they said or did, with the implication that the problem is the punishment rather than the crime. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-dang-if-you-didnt-think-scott-adams-was-a-piece-of-shit-before-just-look-at-him-now/980277/92 "2023-02-25T21:45:10Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Well, now he can go on faux noos and complain about how he’s been cancelled and he has no way to speak out. Or he could go on nightly news and tell viewers about a Dilbert strip. _ **News Anchor:** Up after the break, we have Ty Roberts with sports. But first, here’s Scott Adams with today’s “Dilbert.” Over to you. Scott._ _ **Scott Adams** Thanks, Walter. Okay, today we have Asok the Intern in the conference room with Pointy-Haired Boss. Asok says, “I think the sales reps from Elbonia might be engaging in corporate espionage.” And then the Pointy-Haired Boss says…_ ---
**Author:** ![Ponch8](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponch8/32/9883_2.png) [@Ponch8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponch8)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-dang-if-you-didnt-think-scott-adams-was-a-piece-of-shit-before-just-look-at-him-now/980277/93 "2023-02-25T22:53:58Z")
So far, no word from the Chicago Tribune if they’ll drop this piece-of-shit comic strip. The Tribune is way overdue for replacing lots of its other dinosaur comic strips as well, like Mr. Boffo and Animal Crackers. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-dang-if-you-didnt-think-scott-adams-was-a-piece-of-shit-before-just-look-at-him-now/980277/94 "2023-02-25T23:29:53Z")
> **[‘Dilbert’ dropped by Chicago Tribune, other publications, after cartoonist’s...](https://www.chicagotribune.com/announcements/comics-dilbert-20230225-dtyaek5dovgybofnfjohgi2gjq-story.html)** > > The Chicago Tribune is dropping the comic strip “Dilbert” due to racist remarks from creator Scott McAdams. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-dang-if-you-didnt-think-scott-adams-was-a-piece-of-shit-before-just-look-at-him-now/980277/95 "2023-02-25T23:43:20Z")
Say “goodnight Scott”. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-dang-if-you-didnt-think-scott-adams-was-a-piece-of-shit-before-just-look-at-him-now/980277/96 "2023-02-25T23:45:12Z")
I stand corrected about Adams not getting canceled. His ass is getting canceled **hard**. As it should, for fucks’ sake his comments stand out even in today’s environment of normalizing hate speech. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-dang-if-you-didnt-think-scott-adams-was-a-piece-of-shit-before-just-look-at-him-now/980277/97 "2023-02-25T23:54:25Z")
Dropped by The Oregonian, with an explanation of the difference between “cancelling” and editing: [Letter from the Editor: Why we are no longer running the comic strip ‘Dilbert’ - oregonlive.com](https://www.oregonlive.com/opinion/2023/02/letter-from-the-editor-why-we-are-no-longer-running-the-comic-strip-dilbert.html?fbclid=IwAR0MCCPpGaHSiW63mpJHFH089QsKAoFyJHObbgIbrPwh_M5hMGFRZHbEfWQ) ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-dang-if-you-didnt-think-scott-adams-was-a-piece-of-shit-before-just-look-at-him-now/980277/98 "2023-02-25T23:57:01Z")
> [@Mr.E](#): > > “Cancel Culture” doesn’t mean there are consequences for some speech, it refers quite specifically to complaining about consequences for speech that one thinks should be consequence-free. It’s always deployed as a reaction to someone being censured for something they said or did, with the implication that the problem is the punishment rather than the crime. Yes, I think this is accurate. To simply “cancel” someone has no negative connotation with respect to the people doing the canceling. But “cancel culture” is an idiom with an intrinsic negative connotation, implying that the practice of canceling is ubiquitous and unjustified. You can say “there is nothing wrong with canceling people”, but if you say “there is nothing wrong with cancel culture” that just means that you don’t understand the idiom. We’ve had similar discussions about the idiom “virtue signaling”, which similarly carries a negative connotation. You can say “there is nothing wrong with signaling virtue”, but you cannot say “there is nothing wrong with virtue signaling”. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2023, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-dang-if-you-didnt-think-scott-adams-was-a-piece-of-shit-before-just-look-at-him-now/980277/99 "2023-02-26T00:05:22Z")
> [The Washington Post](https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2023/02/25/scott-adams-dilbert-canceled/) on Saturday asked Adams how many newspapers are still carrying the strip, to which he said: “By Monday, around zero.” ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2023, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-dang-if-you-didnt-think-scott-adams-was-a-piece-of-shit-before-just-look-at-him-now/980277/100 "2023-02-26T00:09:31Z")
Obscenely wealthy, mumbles about free speech, posts barely coherent unfiltered nonsense with ugly alt-right tendencies, out of a job, totally unqualified to run a social media company… Wasn’t Elon looking for someone to take over as CEO? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-dang-if-you-didnt-think-scott-adams-was-a-piece-of-shit-before-just-look-at-him-now/980277.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-dang-if-you-didnt-think-scott-adams-was-a-piece-of-shit-before-just-look-at-him-now/980277.md?page=6)