# Well Dayumn! Gay Marriage is now Legal in Alabama

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [February 3, 2015, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-dayumn-gay-marriage-is-now-legal-in-alabama/711735 "2015-02-03T17:42:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2015, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-dayumn-gay-marriage-is-now-legal-in-alabama/711735/61 "2015-06-28T16:54:50Z")

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If they’re willing to quit issuing licenses, than I guess that means marriage, however defined, isn’t really very important to them. Kinda gives the lie to all the claims that it’s a “sacred” process.

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**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2015, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-dayumn-gay-marriage-is-now-legal-in-alabama/711735/62 "2015-06-29T17:26:54Z")

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Alabama Supreme Court orders probate judges to not issue same-sex marriage licenses for 25 days.

> **[Roy Moore: Judges not required to issue gay marriage licenses](https://www.al.com/news/2015/06/roy_moore_gay_marriage.html)**
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> The Alabama Supreme Court's order was confusing for some probate judges.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2015, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-dayumn-gay-marriage-is-now-legal-in-alabama/711735/63 "2015-06-30T01:50:26Z")

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I hope the U.S. district court judge down there who ruled in the earlier SSM case will set a hearing ASAP and require Moore et al. to show cause why they should not be held in contempt of court.

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2015, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-dayumn-gay-marriage-is-now-legal-in-alabama/711735/64 "2015-06-30T03:11:04Z")

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Some people just feel a need to [stand up](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stand_in_the_Schoolhouse_Door#/media/File:Wallace_at_University_of_Alabama_edit2.jpg) for what they believe in.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2015, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-dayumn-gay-marriage-is-now-legal-in-alabama/711735/65 "2015-06-30T14:16:36Z")

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Here’s CNN’s overview of conservative states leaders’ reaction to the SSM ruling, including in Alabama: [http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/29/us/same-sex-marriage-state-by-state/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/29/us/same-sex-marriage-state-by-state/index.html)

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**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2015, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-dayumn-gay-marriage-is-now-legal-in-alabama/711735/66 "2015-06-30T17:48:22Z")

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Judge Roy Moore compares legalization of same-sex marriage to killing of Jews during WWII.

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> "Could I do this if I were in Nuremberg (war crimes trials after WW II) say that I was following the orders of the highest authority to kill Jews?.. Could I say I was ordered to do so?
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> Told that trial was about killing human beings, not gay marriage, Moore asked: “Is there a difference?”

> **[Alabama Chief Justice Moore: Gay marriage 'not in accordance with Constitution'](https://www.al.com/news/2015/06/alabama_chief_justice_moore_ga.html)**
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> When asked repeatedly if the ruling by the nation's highest court meant that same sex marriage is now the law of the nation and of Alabama, Moore shook his head in disagreement.

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**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2015, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-dayumn-gay-marriage-is-now-legal-in-alabama/711735/67 "2015-07-01T03:55:38Z")

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It’s getting weirder. Lawyer for Roy Moore:

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> Jesus Christ is Lord of all. He came to save the world by His death and resurrection. That world includes you, me, the family, the civil government, all the institutions of life. He came to advance His Father’s kingdom, not watch man run rampant upon the earth as if Christ had never come. As if it were the days of Noah!
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> Public officials are ministers of God assigned the duty of punishing the wicked and protecting the righteous. If the public officials decide to officially approve of the acts of the wicked, they must logically not protect the righteous from the wicked. In fact, they must become protectors of the wicked. You cannot serve two masters; you must pick – God or Satan.
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> The criminal laws against homosexual sodomy are for the protection of the righteous, particularly the young, the weak, the vulnerable, who need the law to teach them right from wrong when in a vulnerable state. The U.S. Supreme Court, although it claims to have done so in 2003, cannot take something that God calls a crime and declare it not a crime.

> **[Roy Moore's lawyer to Gov. Bentley: 'Public officials are ministers of God'](https://www.al.com/news/2015/06/roy_moores_lawyer_to_gov_bentl.html)**
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> Win Johnson |   In harsh words and a lecturing tone, a lawyer who works for Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy Moore has written a letter seemingly directed at Gov. Robert Bentley rebuking him for saying Alabama will obey the...

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2015, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-dayumn-gay-marriage-is-now-legal-in-alabama/711735/68 "2015-07-21T13:38:43Z")

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Moore says there may be war as a result of the SCOTUS ruling: [Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore On Gay Marriage Ruling: 'I Hope We Don't Have A War' | HuffPost Latest News](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/07/08/roy-moore-gay-marriage_n_7754106.html). Yeesh.

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**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2015, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-dayumn-gay-marriage-is-now-legal-in-alabama/711735/69 "2015-08-04T00:25:21Z")

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> The Senate Finance and Taxation General Fund Committee on Monday approved the bill to do away with state-issued marriage licenses. Instead, spouses would file a signed marriage contract at probate offices.

> **[COMMITTEE APPROVES BILL TO TAKE ALABAMA OUT OF MARRIAGE BIZ - WVUA 23](https://www.wvua23.com/committee-approves-bill-to-take-alabama-out-of-marriage-biz/)**
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> MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) – A state Senate committee has approved a bill to take Alabama probate judges out of the wedding license business following the U.S Supreme Court ruling legalizing gay marriage. The Senate Finance and Taxation General Fund...

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2015, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-dayumn-gay-marriage-is-now-legal-in-alabama/711735/70 "2015-08-04T02:22:48Z")

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> [@Accidental\_Martyr](#):
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> [COMMITTEE APPROVES BILL TO TAKE ALABAMA OUT OF MARRIAGE BIZ - WVUA 23](http://wvua23.com/committee-approves-bill-to-take-alabama-out-of-marriage-biz/)

Slim change of passes, but if it does cue probate offices refusing to accept marriage contracts from same-sex couples. And this would not take the state of Alabama out of the “marriage business” in any meaningful way; presumably the state would still need to issue marriage _certificates_ or Alabamans are going to run into a lot of trouble proving they’re married if cross state lines.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2016, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-dayumn-gay-marriage-is-now-legal-in-alabama/711735/71 "2016-05-07T17:28:20Z")

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Chief Justice Moore has again been suspended: [Roy Moore suspended, faces new judicial ethics charges](http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/story/news/politics/southunionstreet/2016/05/06/roy-moore-faces-new-judicial-inquiry-commission-charges/84054184/)

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2016, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-dayumn-gay-marriage-is-now-legal-in-alabama/711735/72 "2016-05-07T19:28:27Z")

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Like the mills of God, sometimes the mills of Justice grind slowly, but they grind exceeding fine.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2016, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-dayumn-gay-marriage-is-now-legal-in-alabama/711735/73 "2016-05-07T20:18:54Z")

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Not until they have ground this asshole (and those who agree with him) into pate.

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**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2016, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-dayumn-gay-marriage-is-now-legal-in-alabama/711735/74 "2016-05-07T21:22:38Z")

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If the idiots here in Alabama didn’t vote for him, he would have stayed gone the first time he was removed from office. I have no doubt he could get re-elected.  
Of course there’s plenty more going on with the Republican “leadership” in the state.  
[http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/03/31/3764800/alabama-robert-bentley-governor-sex-scandal-family-values/](http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/03/31/3764800/alabama-robert-bentley-governor-sex-scandal-family-values/)  
[http://www.wpsdlocal6.com/story/31916207/chief-justices-suspension-adds-to-alabamas-political-mess](http://www.wpsdlocal6.com/story/31916207/chief-justices-suspension-adds-to-alabamas-political-mess)

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2016, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-dayumn-gay-marriage-is-now-legal-in-alabama/711735/75 "2016-05-08T03:20:47Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Not until they have ground this asshole (and those who agree with him) into pate.

Still being the voice of reason and moderation, I see. 😉

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2016, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-dayumn-gay-marriage-is-now-legal-in-alabama/711735/76 "2016-05-08T04:04:11Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Not until they have ground this asshole (and those who agree with him) into pate.

But would you then smear him thin on toast?

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-dayumn-gay-marriage-is-now-legal-in-alabama/711735/77 "2016-05-11T00:57:22Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Chief Justice Moore has again been suspended: [Roy Moore suspended, faces new judicial ethics charges](http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/story/news/politics/southunionstreet/2016/05/06/roy-moore-faces-new-judicial-inquiry-commission-charges/84054184/)

And apparently this time His “Honor” his blaming a local drag [queen](https://www.yahoo.com/news/alabama-drag-queen-suspended-chief-justices-nightmare-184150634.html).

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-dayumn-gay-marriage-is-now-legal-in-alabama/711735/78 "2016-05-11T04:20:58Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> And apparently this time His “Honor” his blaming a local drag [queen](https://www.yahoo.com/news/alabama-drag-queen-suspended-chief-justices-nightmare-184150634.html).

You go, uh, girl!

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**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-dayumn-gay-marriage-is-now-legal-in-alabama/711735/79 "2016-05-11T08:14:08Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> But would you then smear him thin on toast?

Mmmmmmm… asshole pâté toast.

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**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2016, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-dayumn-gay-marriage-is-now-legal-in-alabama/711735/80 "2016-05-20T04:20:03Z")

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More info on the current scandals in Alabama government, including Moore’s latest removal from office.

> **[Scandals Embroil Alabama Governor, Speaker and Chief Justice (Published 2016)](https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/17/us/alabama-robert-bentley-michael-hubbard-roy-moore.html)**
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> Impending trials reach to the tops of three branches of government, and the prosecution could lead to a meltdown of the state’s political system.

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