# Well FUCK ALL about Wars...

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-all-about-wars/541259>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 30, 2010, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-all-about-wars/541259 "2010-05-30T03:31:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2010, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-all-about-wars/541259/21 "2010-05-30T15:22:33Z")

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I am burning your country.

How does that feel?

Not liking it one bit.

Tit for tit.

Tat for tat.

And all that.

Rock on.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2010, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-all-about-wars/541259/22 "2010-05-30T15:29:28Z")

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War! huh-yeah  
What is it good for?  
Absolutely nothing  
Uh-huh

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2010, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-all-about-wars/541259/23 "2010-05-30T15:53:06Z")

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> [@chacoguy](#):
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> Nah, it keeps 'em docile. So the wars can go on…DON’T YOU\* SEE\*?!?

\<Looking around in a shifty manner\>…

You know too much.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2010, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-all-about-wars/541259/24 "2010-05-30T17:46:30Z")

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He fucks you up, your Uncle Sam  
He may not mean to, but he does.  
He bills you for the war, a sham,  
And adds some extra, just because.

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**Author:** ![straight\_man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/straight_man/32/3027_2.png) [@straight\_man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/straight_man)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2010, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-all-about-wars/541259/25 "2010-05-30T18:18:26Z")

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I sympathize with your frustration,  
ill-versed as it may be,  
But while the US seems a hypocrite nation,  
there are reasons —as you shall see.

The system of nations lacks authority,  
or power to keep folks in line,  
If you can’t trust your neighbours, there’s no place for charity,  
and you fight just to stay fine.

When one nation gains power, the others all lose some  
since “power” means power over others;  
And power means security, so losing it hurts one,  
you’d have all the power, had you your druthers.

So countries jostle for position and power,  
and people die as they clash,  
And some dominate some, which may make them sour,  
or maybe just saves them some cash.

America’s the hegemon, which means that they run things,  
so their states are always secure —  
But they have to fight battles, and topple the odd king,  
just so that they can be sure.

The other folks hate them, but really are just like them,  
since they really want the same things:  
Peace and security, and maybe even freedom,  
and to be able to keep all their bling.

Into the mix, we add cooperation,  
since life isn’t just about safety,  
And people (like me!) have been working for much time,  
but it takes time to change everything —see?

There’s no reason to think that it’s all a conspiracy,  
it’s just rulers all have the same aims.  
So the world today looks a lot like in history,  
from Sparta to Delhi and up the Thames.

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**Author:** ![straight\_man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/straight_man/32/3027_2.png) [@straight\_man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/straight_man)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2010, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-all-about-wars/541259/26 "2010-05-30T18:19:28Z")

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…and yes, if anybody is curious, that _is_ in fact the worst poetry I’ve ever written. Thanks for asking.

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2010, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-all-about-wars/541259/27 "2010-05-30T18:22:32Z")

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Put a funky beat to it and I can hear Gil Scott-Heron saying that.

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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2010, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-all-about-wars/541259/28 "2010-05-30T20:50:17Z")

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> [@lurking\_guest](#):
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> Of COURSE, anyone who disagrees with **RIGAMOR  
> OLE**\*\*\*\* is, obviously… no no…lay down…HE is surperior…smarter…has a better brain…he and chacoguy…good buds…smart guys…
> 
> OK lets see YOUR version(s) of politics and the World? Something more…conventional?

I’m… not quite sure how to respond to this.

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**Author:** ![toofs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4491bb/32.png) [@toofs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/toofs)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2010, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-all-about-wars/541259/29 "2010-05-30T21:42:45Z")

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> [@Rigamarole](#):
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> I’m… not quite sure how to respond to this.

You should…respond…sort of…like this…

It is _OBVIOUS_ how a retort…to SUCH LOGICAL…smarter…

good buds…smart guys…

VERSION(S) of politics…

don’t you SEE it???

no no

Conventional politics of the World!

It is OBVIOUS…

yOU DISAGREE…

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**Author:** ![Ace309](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ace309/32/1050_2.png) [@Ace309](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ace309)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2010, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-all-about-wars/541259/30 "2010-05-31T01:41:24Z")

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> [@Lust4Life](#):
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> I think that the O.P.s got a point, until he mentioned it I thought that war was good, also rape, murder and incest.
> 
> BOY ! do I feel silly now.

The OP is a woman who, iirc, is in her 60s. She tends to post in this style and often (as here) blames things on [politics,](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=531776) [men’s refusal to care for their daughters,](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=535484) and [knees to the groin.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=530242)

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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2010, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-all-about-wars/541259/31 "2010-05-31T01:49:15Z")

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Ah, yes.  
Now it feels like home.

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**Author:** ![emcee2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7bcc69/32.png) [@emcee2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emcee2k)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2010, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-all-about-wars/541259/32 "2010-05-31T02:17:18Z")

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> [@lurking\_guest](#):
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> I’m sick of it. Them. Wars.
> 
> Not just in Countries.
> 
> Not just in History Books.
> 
> China. North Korea.
> 
> …
> 
> …
> 
> When EVER will this power matter?
> 
> God bless the USA.

Burma-Shave.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2010, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-all-about-wars/541259/33 "2010-05-31T02:24:14Z")

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> [@Cicero](#):
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> This is the funniest thread I’ve seen in ages.

Even better if your hearing William Shatner reading the OP aloud it in your head.

CMC fnord!

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**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2010, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-all-about-wars/541259/34 "2010-05-31T02:37:46Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> War! huh-yeah  
> What is it good for?

It’s good for you, it’s good for me.

[…]

It shows the world that we’ve got stones  
And carriers with fighter drones.

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/yknZf6xER60/hqdefault.jpg "Sam & Max - The War Song") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yknZf6xER60)

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2010, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-all-about-wars/541259/35 "2010-05-31T06:11:16Z")

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> [@lurking\_guest](#):
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> MEN the World over know how it is all interconnected.
> 
> To retain Power they must mate with one another.  
> Keep the ‘other’ seven billion people turning toward their goals..

Oh, they’re interconnected all right. Damn homosexual conspiracy.

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**Author:** ![Lust4Life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecc23a/32.png) [@Lust4Life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lust4Life)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2010, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-all-about-wars/541259/36 "2010-05-31T08:39:15Z")

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I blame their parents myself.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2010, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-all-about-wars/541259/37 "2010-06-02T04:11:12Z")

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I bet Bill Clinton would have fucked a war.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2010, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-all-about-wars/541259/38 "2010-06-02T21:36:24Z")

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**Euphonius** , posting the entire lyrics to a song like that is a violation of copyright. I’ve edited down to just the first verse to bring it into compliance with fair use.

(Also, I was totally going to post that.)

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2010, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-all-about-wars/541259/39 "2010-06-02T21:48:04Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> **Euphonius** , posting the entire lyrics to a song like that is a violation of copyright. I’ve edited down to just the first verse to bring it into compliance with fair use.
> 
> (Also, I was totally going to post that.)

It was not the entire lyrics to the song. I particularly made sure that I did not post all of the lyrics. I left many of the lyrics out. There are many more lyrics that I did not include.

But thanks anyway.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2010, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-all-about-wars/541259/40 "2010-06-02T22:02:19Z")

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Clinton’s problem was starting too few wars, not too many. Of course, it would have lead to that particularly hilarious phenomenon of 90s hippie republicans asking why a couple hundred american boys have to die to save a couple hundred thousand rwandans or bosnians.

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