# Well, fuck, it looks like it's going to be Bush. Putcher rants here. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 3, 2004, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-it-looks-like-its-going-to-be-bush-putcher-rants-here/272651 "2004-11-03T01:08:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-it-looks-like-its-going-to-be-bush-putcher-rants-here/272651/21 "2004-11-03T01:56:43Z")
Well, the Yahoo map (which uses the AP as their source) now has Bush “pink” in Florida and Ohio. (Meaning that he’s got a slight lead but it’s too soon too tell.) This may change at any moment, though. Time will tell, time will tell. Kerry’s gonna get New York and California, of course. I think that the odds are slightly better for Kerry, but I doubt this is gonna be a slam dunk for either side. Time will tell, time will tell. ---
**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-it-looks-like-its-going-to-be-bush-putcher-rants-here/272651/22 "2004-11-03T01:57:56Z")
Bush hasn’t taken a single state that I didn’t assume he was going to take. He hasn’t won any state that I was wondering about, let alone worried about. The ones to watch are Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida (whichever candidate wins two of three puts the other at a big disadvantage), Wisconsin Michigan Minnesota & Iowa (if Bush picks off several of these Kerry is in trouble unless he pulls down all three of the beforementioned big ones), New Mexico Colorado and Nevada (Kerry stands a good change of picking off at least one, which could make up for Wisconsin or Iowa if Bush scores there). ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Badger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/848f3c/32.png) [@Dead\_Badger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Badger)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-it-looks-like-its-going-to-be-bush-putcher-rants-here/272651/23 "2004-11-03T02:00:16Z")
Dammit, Ohio, I was going to wait until you declared then go to bed. Fuck it, this Britdoper is too knackered. Wake me up in 2008. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-it-looks-like-its-going-to-be-bush-putcher-rants-here/272651/24 "2004-11-03T02:01:11Z")
Don’t forget about the 55 big ones from California going to Kerry. ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-it-looks-like-its-going-to-be-bush-putcher-rants-here/272651/25 "2004-11-03T02:02:11Z")
It is really too early, I think, to even call them now. Right? Aren’t polls still open? ---
**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-it-looks-like-its-going-to-be-bush-putcher-rants-here/272651/26 "2004-11-03T02:04:27Z")
Missouri is light blue on the Yahoo map. Slightly leaning towards Kerry. However, all polls say that Missouri is going to go for Bush, so who knows if this will stick. Too soon to tell, too soon to tell. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-it-looks-like-its-going-to-be-bush-putcher-rants-here/272651/27 "2004-11-03T02:15:38Z")
No states have flipped (from where they were in 2000) yet, so I don’t know what the OP is talking about. All signs indicate a Kerry win. ---
**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-it-looks-like-its-going-to-be-bush-putcher-rants-here/272651/28 "2004-11-03T02:26:36Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > No states have flipped (from where they were in 2000) yet, so I don’t know what the OP is talking about. All signs indicate a Kerry win. You know, I’ll prob’ly be able to post in GD and The Pit again before the election’s settled. ---
**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-it-looks-like-its-going-to-be-bush-putcher-rants-here/272651/29 "2004-11-03T02:35:54Z")
Missouri is now pink. (See my post a few back for clarification.) See how quickly things change? Too soon to tell, folks. But I think I mentioned that before. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-it-looks-like-its-going-to-be-bush-putcher-rants-here/272651/30 "2004-11-03T02:38:08Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > No states have flipped (from where they were in 2000) yet, so I don’t know what the OP is talking about. All signs indicate a Kerry win. Even a slight Bush lead in Ohio and Florida certainly “indicates” a Bush win, doesn’t it? Kerry cannot win the election without Ohio. Full stop, end of story; if Bush wins Ohio, Bush is re-elected. I predicted a super-close Kerry win with Bush winning Florida, but without Ohio too, Kerry hasn’t a chance in hell. ---
**Author:** ![AveDementia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc8723/32.png) [@AveDementia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AveDementia)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-it-looks-like-its-going-to-be-bush-putcher-rants-here/272651/31 "2004-11-03T03:13:22Z")
There’s a really nice map at [BBC NEWS](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/hi/americas/04/vote_usa/map/html/default.stm), in case anyone is looking for a good site for election watching. The suspense is going to kill me. I just know it! ---
**Author:** ![jabiru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bbce88/32.png) [@jabiru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jabiru)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-it-looks-like-its-going-to-be-bush-putcher-rants-here/272651/32 "2004-11-03T03:15:13Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > No states have flipped (from where they were in 2000) yet, so I don’t know what the OP is talking about. All signs indicate a Kerry win. What signs? It looks grim for Kerry from where I’m sitting. ---
**Author:** ![ccwaterback](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@ccwaterback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ccwaterback)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-it-looks-like-its-going-to-be-bush-putcher-rants-here/272651/33 "2004-11-03T03:17:10Z")
Well let’s see what kind of disaster this stupid fucking redneck hillbilly leads us into his second term. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-it-looks-like-its-going-to-be-bush-putcher-rants-here/272651/34 "2004-11-03T03:19:34Z")
Fuck, maybe a Bush win is a good thing because all the assholes who voted for that idiot will have to take the blame for the disasters he’s leading us into. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-it-looks-like-its-going-to-be-bush-putcher-rants-here/272651/35 "2004-11-03T03:22:35Z")
> [@gobear](#): > > Fuck, maybe a Bush win is a good thing because all the assholes who voted for that idiot will have to take the blame for the disasters he’s leading us into. Yeah, right. We both know that’s not going to happen. ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-it-looks-like-its-going-to-be-bush-putcher-rants-here/272651/36 "2004-11-03T03:27:56Z")
With 30% in, Bush has a 5% point lead in Ohio, if Cincinatti and Cleveland are still out Kerry’s got a chance, if they’re in he’s done. A 5 percentage point deficit will be hard for him to come back from, which is bad news for Kerry because… …he’s 5% down in Florida with 78% in, I bet they call Florida for Bush soon. I don’t think Kerry can win if Ohio and Florida go red. However, on the flip side of the coin, PA is 60/40 Kerry with half the precincts reporting. That’s a nice lead in a so-called “battleground” state. Still, it’s looking grim for the visiting team. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-it-looks-like-its-going-to-be-bush-putcher-rants-here/272651/37 "2004-11-03T03:36:48Z")
I’m pretty happy. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-it-looks-like-its-going-to-be-bush-putcher-rants-here/272651/38 "2004-11-03T03:38:43Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > I’m pretty happy. Still, you’re counting your bottles before they age… ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-it-looks-like-its-going-to-be-bush-putcher-rants-here/272651/39 "2004-11-03T03:42:03Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Still, you’re counting your bottles before they age… No, no. I know the bottle’s not won until Bush hits 269. But my confidence in the outcome, which I first wagered on over 30 months ago, has not wavered once. I said then Bush would win, I said it last week, and I’m saying it again now. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-it-looks-like-its-going-to-be-bush-putcher-rants-here/272651/40 "2004-11-03T03:42:47Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > No, no. I know the bottle’s not won until Bush hits 269. > > But my confidence in the outcome, which I first wagered on over 30 months ago, has not wavered once. I said then Bush would win, I said it last week, and I’m saying it again now. Betting on the stupidity, gullibility and cupidity of America isn’t something I’d be proud of. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-it-looks-like-its-going-to-be-bush-putcher-rants-here/272651.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-it-looks-like-its-going-to-be-bush-putcher-rants-here/272651.md?page=3)