# Well, Fuck!  Looks like he killed her

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 18, 2005, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232 "2005-03-18T23:31:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![The\_Unkempt\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b782af/32.png) [@The\_Unkempt\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Unkempt_One)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/1 "2005-03-18T23:31:02Z")

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[Click](http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-0318missinggirl,0,7216293.story?coll=sfla-home-headlines)

Looks like hopes to find 9-year-old Jessica Lunsford alive are in vain.

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**Author:** ![Valgard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/7feea3/32.png) [@Valgard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Valgard)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/2 "2005-03-18T23:38:00Z")

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I just saw that. Words can’t express my feelings. Peace to her family and nothing good to the killer.

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**Author:** ![ParentalAdvisory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@ParentalAdvisory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParentalAdvisory)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/3 "2005-03-18T23:40:11Z")

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For love of Og, why can’t these sick fuckers just get a prostitute?

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**Author:** ![ladybug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/46a35a/32.png) [@ladybug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladybug)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/4 "2005-03-18T23:56:31Z")

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I almost cried when I heard the news. This story really hits home for me because my family lives in Citrus County. My brother works at the local newspaper and he told me rumors have been running rampant for weeks. I’m guessing the newsroom is going crazy right now.

I saw the video clips of Couey smiling and drinking in a bar just a few days ago. Damn him. How could someone do that to _anyone_, let alone a child? I wish I believed in hell so I’d know he’d be rotting in it.

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**Author:** ![sweetfreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@sweetfreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sweetfreak)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/5 "2005-03-19T00:24:58Z")

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A couple of weeks ago, I was at the local gas station. It was about 11AM in the morning. I heard a man talking to the clerk behind the counter, telling her to be on the lookout for a missing 9 year old girl.

Later, at 5PM, I heard the news that a 9 year old girl from Homosassa Springs was missing since around 6AM. It was odd, because although I had heard the man at the gas station, what he said had not registered with me until I watched the news.

At that moment, I wondered if I had been more aware of the man’s words at the gas station, would I have gone out and looked, and maybe have found poor Jessica before it was too late. Now I think…probably not.

Jessica, rest in peace.

My thoughts go out to your family.

Couey, I hope they string you up by the balls, you sick fuck!

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/6 "2005-03-19T01:08:16Z")

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It’s shit like this that makes me wonder why more people don’t believe in the death penalty or at least allowing shitsacks like this to get the fuck beaten out of them. This asshat was a registered sex offender (fat lot of good _that_ did, huh?), so it’s not like he just suddenly went crazy and whacked the girl because he forgot to take his pills that day, and he’s got a long history of criminal behaviour, so it’s not like he was someone who “just made a mistake.” At the very least he kidnapped and murdered a little girl, and in all likelihood, made her last hours on Earth a living Hell, so why should he be allowed to continue to breathe? My cat is more human than this bipedal abortion is and while killing him won’t bring her back, it will end me having to share this Earth with him.

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**Author:** ![ccwaterback](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@ccwaterback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ccwaterback)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/7 "2005-03-19T01:18:57Z")

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So what is that, like the 10th abduction in this area in the last year or so? I swear Florida is the sex offender capital of the world. What a goddamn shame.

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**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/8 "2005-03-19T01:39:24Z")

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> [@ParentalAdvisory](#):
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> For love of Og, why can’t these sick fuckers just get a prostitute?

Because it isn’t just about getting your ashes hauled–it’s about the need to kill a child.

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**Author:** ![Abbie\_Carmichael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/49beb7/32.png) [@Abbie\_Carmichael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abbie_Carmichael)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/9 "2005-03-19T01:50:20Z")

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Just one day … ONE day in the general population of whatever prison he ends up in …

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/10 "2005-03-19T02:11:19Z")

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A very sad object lesson on the importance of keeping track of sexual predators. Or keeping the bastards locked up.

What a contemptible piece of shit.

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**Author:** ![Nic2004](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/4491bb/32.png) [@Nic2004](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nic2004)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/11 "2005-03-19T02:25:22Z")

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I am so, so sorry for her and her family. As the father of a little boy, I can’t begin to imagine the pain her family is trying to live with. As far as his punishment, I am with many others here and the first to volunteer to kill him… oh, I’m sorry… to _execute_ him. Those who bitch so actively for the rights of these fucks and those who oppose the death penalty should be forced to go explain this to her parents. If he had been taken out with the first offence of this kind, this little girl, the love and center of someone’s life, would be alive tonight and safe in her bed.  
They have said that the death penalty in not a deterrent to crime. I say maybe not… but it’s hell on the **repeat offenders**  
I am here in Florida and say, tell me the time and bring him out on the steps of the jail and leave him with me and anyone else who wishes to show up. There will be no re-occurance from this one.

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**Author:** ![ZebraShaSha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/eada6e/32.png) [@ZebraShaSha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZebraShaSha)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/12 "2005-03-19T02:37:47Z")

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> [@Nicodemus2004](#):
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> I am so, so sorry for her and her family. As the father of a little boy, I can’t begin to imagine the pain her family is trying to live with. As far as his punishment, I am with many others here and the first to volunteer to kill him… oh, I’m sorry… to _execute_ him. Those who bitch so actively for the rights of these fucks and those who oppose the death penalty should be forced to go explain this to her parents. If he had been taken out with the first offence of this kind, this little girl, the love and center of someone’s life, would be alive tonight and safe in her bed.  
> They have said that the death penalty in not a deterrent to crime. I say maybe not… but it’s hell on the **repeat offenders**  
> I am here in Florida and say, tell me the time and bring him out on the steps of the jail and leave him with me and anyone else who wishes to show up. There will be no re-occurance from this one.

I mostly oppose the death penalty for cases just like this, actually. If prisons were reformed in just the right way, he would wish for death to be an escape. Tons of prisoners have kids and families, and many others are as opposed to these attrocious acts as are the rest of you. Rightfully so. His life, simply put, will be living hell from the time he awakes till, well, he will probably have problems sleeping because he will never know when someone is out for him. Death would be an escape.

I hope he rots in a small, damp, smelly, prison cell.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/13 "2005-03-19T02:52:25Z")

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As long as we’re playing politics with this…

> [@Nicodemus2004](#):
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> If he had been taken out with the first offence of this kind, this little girl, the love and center of someone’s life, would be alive tonight and safe in her bed.

Yeah, let’s kill all molesters before they offend again! Better yet, since children don’t lie about molestation, lets put everyone accused of it since 1982 up against the wall and shoot 'em before the pinko liberal judges have a chance to give 'em their civil rights! That’ll teach 'em to look weird! (Ever notice how the handsome ones never seem to elicit the “kill 'em all” reaction?)

Okay, seriously:  
– What crime was he registered of committing in the first place?  
– If it was just fondling, would it be worth it to kill or torture everyone **convicted** (not factually guilty mind you, **convicted** ) of that? What good would torture have on people who are already insane enough that they disregard possible years behind prison to satisfy their lusts? I sure as heck wouldn’t risk sex with a 25 year old if it could lead to 10 years in jail, but I’m sane. I think.  
– If it were kidnapping and/or aggravated rape, don’t you think the registry has been diluted by registry of statutory rapists and fondlers? So that if we **must** set them free, and we get notification that someone in the registry is heading our way, we know they are really dangerous?

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**Author:** ![belladonna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9fc29f/32.png) [@belladonna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/belladonna)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/14 "2005-03-19T03:18:41Z")

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> [@spoke-](#):
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> A very sad object lesson on the importance of keeping track of sexual predators.

I’m sure someone will correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe that they \*were \* keeping track of this guy. He was on the offender list, and it was his skipping notification that allowed them to issue the warrant that snagged him. Short of assigning someone to follow every sex offender around, or keeping them all locked up indefinitely, I don’t know that there’s much hope of stopping these kinds of things from happening. ☹

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**Author:** ![belladonna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9fc29f/32.png) [@belladonna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/belladonna)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/15 "2005-03-19T03:27:31Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> – If it were kidnapping and/or aggravated rape, don’t you think the registry has been diluted by registry of statutory rapists and fondlers? So that if we **must** set them free, and we get notification that someone in the registry is heading our way, we know they are really dangerous?

Sex offenders are classified in four groups. Levels 1-3, with a special designation for sexual predators. Level 1 guys (low chance of reoffending, little danger to public) are not even included on the lists available to the public. I don’t know if it varies by locale, but in my area the offender list clearly states the offender level (2-3, or SP) of each entry, so it’s pretty easy to see who is considered really dangerous.

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**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/16 "2005-03-19T03:43:38Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> What crime was he registered of committing in the first place?

[http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/03/18/missing.girl/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/03/18/missing.girl/index.html)

> [@](#):
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> Couey’s record raised particular concern because of his more than three-decade-long criminal history, including 24 arrests on charges for burglary, carrying a concealed weapon, indecent exposure, disorderly conduct, larceny and drugs.
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> In 1991 Couey pleaded guilty to felony charges of sex offense against a child, fondling a child under 16, and lewd and lascivious conduct in Kissimmee, Florida.
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> He was also convicted of indecent exposure in 1987, according to records from the sheriff’s office.
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> During a 1978 burglary, for which Couey was convicted, he was accused of grabbing a girl in her bedroom, placing his hand over her mouth and kissing her, Dawsy said.

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/17 "2005-03-19T03:49:53Z")

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The news accounts I’ve seen take great pains to point out that the details of his 1991 conviction are sealed.

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**Author:** ![Nic2004](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/4491bb/32.png) [@Nic2004](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nic2004)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/18 "2005-03-19T04:15:02Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> As long as we’re playing politics with this…  
> Yeah, let’s kill all molesters before they offend again! Better yet, since children don’t lie about molestation, lets put everyone accused of it since 1982 up against the wall and shoot 'em before the pinko liberal judges have a chance to give 'em their civil rights! That’ll teach 'em to look weird! (Ever notice how the handsome ones never seem to elicit the “kill 'em all” reaction?)
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> Okay, seriously:  
> – What crime was he registered of committing in the first place?  
> – If it was just fondling, would it be worth it to kill or torture everyone **convicted** (not factually guilty mind you, **convicted** ) of that? What good would torture have on people who are already insane enough that they disregard possible years behind prison to satisfy their lusts? I sure as heck wouldn’t risk sex with a 25 year old if it could lead to 10 years in jail, but I’m sane. I think.  
> – If it were kidnapping and/or aggravated rape, don’t you think the registry has been diluted by registry of statutory rapists and fondlers? So that if we **must** set them free, and we get notification that someone in the registry is heading our way, we know they are really dangerous?

You guys need a new theme song. If somone doesn’t see the benifit in keeping a PROVEN SEX OFFENDER against a child alive you go into this same old "mob rule’ “lynch party” “kill 'em all” type of shit. There can be no judgement based on confession (he has confessed you know) or conviction or anything, huh. It’s wild-eyed anarchy or total submission with you guys. Jeez, you give me a pain. A child is dead… probably horribly. The world would be a better place without trash like this. And yes, proven crimes against children should deserve a special hell for these fucks.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/19 "2005-03-19T04:24:30Z")

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> [@](#):
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> During a 1978 burglary, for which Couey was convicted, he was accused of grabbing a girl in her bedroom, placing his hand over her mouth and kissing her, Dawsy said.

That’s pretty harsh.

It looks like it wasn’t a problem with the way the system was set up but yet another sad misadventure in the world of Florida and Children.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/well-fuck-looks-like-he-killed-her/295232/20 "2005-03-19T04:29:27Z")

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> [@Nicodemus2004](#):
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> You guys need a new theme song. If somone doesn’t see the benifit in keeping a PROVEN SEX OFFENDER against a child alive you go into this same old "mob rule’ “lynch party” “kill 'em all” type of shit. There can be no judgement based on confession (he has confessed you know) or conviction or anything, huh. It’s wild-eyed anarchy or total submission with you guys. Jeez, you give me a pain. A child is dead… probably horribly. The world would be a better place without trash like this. And yes, proven crimes against children should deserve a special hell for these fucks.

Well, I’ve said before people who actually do commit these crimes do not deserve to live untortured. But the problem with confession is that if we only allow such things to happen to those who do confess, do you think anyone would confess? It would lower the confession rate and thus some of them would get off, free to continue their crimes.

Whereas if we gave everyone, even those who protest their innocence, the full treatment of sodomy and the lash, we’d certainly be inflicting that punishment on many who did not even do anything resembling these crimes. Just lock 'em up. Keep 'em there if they’re that dangerous.

The guy in question, if he were guilty of everything he was charged with, falls into the “throw away the key” category with me. Firmly established reoffender.

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